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Post by indridscold on Jun 19, 2021 18:40:15 GMT
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Post by Arlequin on Jun 19, 2021 19:23:16 GMT
Imo, and I don't mean to knock your choice in purchasing the Lubeck but I believe the Phillipe IV Sword is easily the best of these 5 when it comes to the specs (Look at POB especially), handle design and shape, scabbard, etc. I am actually a little surprised by it for a deepeeka at the price point. They look nice, but at the end of the day they're still low carbon steel, won't hold an edge good.
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Post by indridscold on Jun 19, 2021 20:07:50 GMT
I'm more on the medieval reenactor side. So the sword has to fit a certain period, look authentic, etc first and foremost. I usually redo the scabbards/hilts/suspension systems as necessary to get it closer once I've purchased. So, cutting or just picking a sword based on functionality regardless of its period is not what I'm looking at. If they do cut well, great, but its not the priority for me.
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Post by alientude on Jun 21, 2021 20:23:28 GMT
A couple more new ones posted today. The Lake Neuenburg Sword looks fairly decent, specification wise. Just over 2 lbs, distal taper from 4.8mm to 2.5mm, POB 3 1/4". I'm not a fan of the rounded tip, but seems decent enough if you don't mind the nut attachment for the pommel rather than a peen.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 21, 2021 22:46:24 GMT
That is the only one out of the batch that catches my eye, although I understand where indridscold in coming from. I like the distal taper, weight, wood core scabbard, about everything about it. The only concern, and a minor one, is the threaded pommel. Threaded pommels are my favourite however the shape of this nut looks like it would be hard to adjust without the proper tool and does Deepeeka use epoxy? That’s the first sword to catch my fancy in awhile.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jun 21, 2021 23:52:49 GMT
They look nice, but at the end of the day they're still low carbon steel, won't hold an edge good. I wouldn't call EN45 = 9260 "low carbon". Deepeeka swords generally aren't great for edge retention because they're tempered fairly soft, about 48-50HRC, but they do use respectable high-carbon steel.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jun 22, 2021 0:00:20 GMT
Imo, and I don't mean to knock your choice in purchasing the Lubeck but I believe the Phillipe IV Sword is easily the best of these 5 when it comes to the specs (Look at POB especially), handle design and shape, scabbard, etc. Both look good. The close POB on the Phillipe IV is not necessarily good. I can't find the details for the original, but Deepeeka's Lake Neuenburg Sword, which is of similar size and POB (but much lighter) doesn't balance like the original, which has a POB at 6" and therefore probably works better. Original: www.patreon.com/posts/type-xiv-sword-16657745Deepeeka: www.kultofathena.com/product/lake-neuenburg-sword-late-13th-century-arming-sword/The Lubeck is a nice big cavalry sword. It's heavier and probably clunkier than it's competitors, but it's half the price of the cheapest competitor I know of (the Hanwei Sword of Saint Maurice) and enormously cheaper than the Albions (Saint Maurice and Soborg). Of these Deepeeka's, I'm most tempted by the Lubeck and the Lake Neuenberg.
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Post by Kane Shen on Jun 22, 2021 3:34:47 GMT
The Comte de Nieuwekerke Sword has the look of a stereotypical type XV arming sword. Good linear profile taper. Very rare type to be reproduced. The weight 2lbs 7oz and the point of balance 3.5" are on point, too. The only thing that truly kills Deepeeka swords' handling is the absence of distal taper. But, this new batch of medieval swords from them can be rather adequate stage swords for film productions, especially for background characters. Looks a lot nicer than their atrocious old offerings of medieval swords. At least without a closer lateral look, you won't tell the issue with the distal taper, and it has the benefit of not only being affordable, but also without the worry of accidentally stabbing some crew members to the death like if you are to walk around the set with a pointy Albion Lancaster.
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Post by alientude on Jun 22, 2021 3:39:29 GMT
They've definitely stepped up their game in terms of the quality of their fittings. Compare these new ones to something like their Brass-Hilt Greatsword.
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Post by Kane Shen on Jun 22, 2021 3:46:11 GMT
They've definitely stepped up their game in terms of the quality of their fittings. Compare these new ones to something like their Brass-Hilt Greatsword. What a beaut, ROFL
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Post by deepeekaexports on Jun 22, 2021 6:18:32 GMT
Dear all, its nice to hear some positive things about our new swords and we hope to continue improving our quality.
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Post by ThomasW on Jun 22, 2021 10:52:33 GMT
Dear all, its nice to hear some positive things about our new swords and we hope to continue improving our quality. it's always nice to see new offerings. I can only applaud the improvements.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 11:51:16 GMT
The Comte de Nieuwekerke Sword caught my attention. The quality appears to have gone up for Deepeeka.
At this price point, why not?
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Post by pgandy on Jun 22, 2021 12:29:42 GMT
Dear all, its nice to hear some positive things about our new swords and we hope to continue improving our quality. It’s always good for a rep to chime in. Your Lake Neuenburg Sword is the first Deepeeka to catch my attention positively and hope it’s representative of things to come. The HRC is given on only one of the six new swords. To me that is more important than steel type and is sadly lacking on most swords these days although is being displayed more and more. The above sword shows some decent taper, I hope this is something to expect the future, also lacking in too many repros. And a wood core scabbard, my favourite scabbard construction. That one does indeed impress me and could well be my first Deepeeka.
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Post by alientude on Jun 22, 2021 15:10:00 GMT
I agree with pgandy - it's great to see a rep from Deepeeka here. These new models look like a big step forward in quality. I've never really considered buying a Deepeeka before, but I am considering it. I'm hoping KoA has several more new models still coming in the next few days, with maybe a longsword that will really catch my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 15:20:38 GMT
Agree with pgandy & alien, it's good to see a rep from Deepeeka here.
If you'd like to know what would make me more inclined to try out one of these new models, it would be if these took a little more weight off, and had a distal taper.
Now I know that would cost more to produce & market. But most of these are coming in over 3 pounds, which rules me out. Even at this phenomenally low price point.
Not to say these aren't a bargain. They are. They look good, and they will certainly have an audience.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 16:39:22 GMT
With any advance in stylings, the problems with ad copy continues. Call them what you want but know the swords they were named after. At the word of a type XV, I bothered to look and wasn't too surprised to see the original from the Wallace collection was being misrepresented. myarmoury.com/feature_spotxv.htmlA recurring issue with such swords is that the ad copy is what some use as fact, when the truth is something else. For instance the recent thread discussing the Deepeeka Tewksbury sword. These are unfortunate and continuing issues sword producers have with ad copy. Either historical names mean something, or they are some sort of nonsense. I've not picked apart the rest for the ad copy. Another seems well noted and comparable to a historic counterpart. I like XV swords, so I looked. Cheers GC
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Post by Jash on Jun 22, 2021 19:31:15 GMT
Wow, these newer Deepeekas are finally in stock! I recall mentioning in another thread that Deepeeka will be releasing "New & Improved" Medieval swords - and it sure took some time to arrive in North America lol. There will be other models I presume, as there are on Deepeeka's website: deepeeka.in/new-in-2014.html (if link does not work, it's just the "New & Improved" Section). I am most interested in the Aislinn Type XV, and the St Maurice (Vienna) Type XI. Just a heads up, the pictures of the St Maurice are the old prototype and not what the production model will look like. I purchased a sample St Maurice (along with 2 others) that should be shipped from Deepeeka this week! In terms of reducing weight - I asked them if they could get their edges any thinner than what they're like now, so we'll see how that turns out. Also some pointers on improving the fullers in their Migration / Viking swords - so again, we'll see in a week or two.
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Post by alientude on Jun 22, 2021 23:09:08 GMT
Judging from that link, looks like no new longswords. Darn. I might have to pick up one of the arming swords, though, just because the price is so right that it might be worth it to see how Deepeeka is performing now.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 22, 2021 23:13:10 GMT
Ya, they have some good prices. Wonder how long that will last?
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