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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 1:09:34 GMT
as to loving a sword san, that's what the sheath is for, so you don't get blood on the sheets
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 9:05:40 GMT
Cheness: you sound like an advertising commercial, so I have to wonder what interest you hold in a company or person to talk him up like that? You also make many unsubstantiated claims backed up by "learn german and read his site" or better "because he said so." Do you believe everything you read as well? How many ATrim swords have you handled that make you feel confident enough to make comments like this; Sorry, I didn't want to sound like an advertising commercial. I guess I got carried away defending Arno's work. That 'learn German', I simple don't want to translate Arno's whole page to back up my points; 'because he said so', if a guy like Arno says something, I tend to believe him. I mean, he's the artist, if someone knows this stuff best, it's him. So in this case, yes, I believe what I read. Arno is a trustworthy guy, I don't think he would make something up, nor does he need to. If you don't believe what the artist said himself then I can't convince you anyway. I handled like 4 or 5 ATrims, also some very high-end pieces. I never said Arno's swords were better in handling or such, I just said his swords are more durable. That's because of the different handle construction and because of the steel heat treatment. I don't need to have handled all ATrims, because the construction and heat treat is similar on every piece. I think, and that's just my personal opinion, that every recessed nut construction is weaker than a good solid peen. That alone makes Arno's swords better in my opinion. About the durability of Tinker's swords, my friend owns a Tinker Hanwei Viking and a VA practical arming sword. He uses both swords a lot and he also does some very abusive cutting. Both swords seem to held up very well. Except for that, Tinker himself said on this forum that he used his swords to trim trees and hack away bushes. That's enough evidence for me to say Tinkers and VA practical won't break when used for light cutting and they are also able to withstand some heavy cutting. Just wanted to say, ATrim, Albion and Tinker all make WONDERFUL swords that will do what they were made to do. If it sounded like I wanted to put them down, I'm sorry I didn't mean to do that. I wish, I could afford one of their swords
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 13:15:26 GMT
I think that I better just do something soon, before I spend my money on the next good looking sword that I see. I might get the 1313, the leather scabbard, and then get a 303S. I just might.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 13:18:58 GMT
What leather scabbard?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 16:42:43 GMT
Can't you get a $95 leather scabbard from CF when you buy one of AT's swords from his sight?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 26, 2009 17:36:13 GMT
yes you can. and a 1313 would be a fine sword. if you can get a 303 also that's sure not a bad way to go. you won't get any belt suspensions sets or anything. I'll say the thing Cheness Fan said anything you do to destroy a VA will almost for sure damage an Atrim as well. the V.A. swords will cut very well. I doubt you'll feel the difference. as we talked about before it's all about what you want to do with them. if you want to wear them around and enjoy the feel of having a sword hanging at your side then VA is the way to go.
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Post by Avery on Jul 26, 2009 18:56:57 GMT
Jonathan, I figured I'd toss in on this. Tom, and everyone for that matter, has given good advice. Sounds like you might a bit overloaded, though. IMHO, you'd do well with a V.A. sword as a starter. They're durable and will serve well for a first real sword. You're at an age where you can start off with these and as you get older and experienced at cutting, then go up the chain. Look at it this way, getting a first sword is alot like a first car. You're just learning to drive so start out with a good looking, steady clunker. That way, if you wreck it, you're not out alot of cash. Just my opinoin, take it with a grain.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 18:57:51 GMT
as to loving a sword san, that's what the sheath is for, so you don't get blood on the sheets Ahhh, so thats what they mean by "Safe Sax".. ...........SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 20:37:01 GMT
In that case, I will stick to my plan to get the Kriegschwert and 303S. Or I could get the Malatesta instead of the Kriegschwert. Or a 304S with a blue grip. Curses!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 21:02:44 GMT
Actually, now that I think about it, I probably wouldn't mind having a plain 304S. All I would need to get is a sword frog or something so that I could hang it from my belt. Does anyone know where I could get a suspension system that can work for a two handed sword and one handed sword?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 21:14:10 GMT
Kult of Athena has some nice stuff, but I would get one of the guys here to make something for ya.....Keeping it in the family ..............SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 23:15:37 GMT
Then again, the Malatesta looks nice...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 23:40:31 GMT
Jonathan: Let me give you some advice that helped me when I first started "just bloody well pick one!" If you are looking for the perfect sword, you won't find it first one off the bat, I don't know many people who have because you have to experience before you can say "yep this is the best one for me." So you pick up and ATrim or a VA and maybe, just maybe it doesn't feel that great in the hand. So what? You have no experience and no training, it won't be the first sword you buy and it won't be the last, you are still also young plenty of time to build up a collection. You won't actually know if it feels good in the hand as you have nothing to compare it to yet and that is a wonderful position to be in. If you are worried about spending the money on the next sword you see, then buy what you like the look of now. Sure you could save up more but then you won't have a sword and that is what we all really want when we first started collecting, something we liked the look of and we enjoyed using. Just choose one, do eeny meeny miney mo on your top three favourites if you really have to but choose one if that's what you want to spend your money on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 0:04:44 GMT
I know, but it is so hard to make a choice. I am really liking the looks of the Malatesta right now, but the Kriegschwert as well.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 27, 2009 2:06:55 GMT
oh Jon, Jon my boy, you have the disease and you have it bad. trust me buying the swords you want will not quench the desire for the swords you don't have. it may cool it off for a little while but it will not go away. so what do you do? 1. resign yourself to the fact that there will always be swords you want but cannot have 2. As soon as you have your money and are ready to buy, go right out and buy the swords you like best that particular day. 3. forgive yourself for not getting that really cool (insert sword name here) and love what you get. 4. start saving and making plans for the next purchase.
this is how most of us survive.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jul 27, 2009 2:38:28 GMT
The hunt is part of the fun, savor it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 2:43:54 GMT
The hunt is part of the fun, savor it. Indeed Anyway, steering this thread back to it's original point... Hairu, any idea when you'll get your replacement sword? When you get it, perhaps you could do a photo comparison of the two tangs?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 10:05:57 GMT
For photo comparison just look at the picture with hairu's and shadow's Bristol tang.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 12:10:39 GMT
Sorry, I did go a lot off-topic there. Maybe this should be discussed in my original thread. I am really liking the Malatesta, but I don't know if the grip, pommel, and guard will make edge alignment difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 13:32:55 GMT
oh Jon, Jon my boy, you have the disease and you have it bad. trust me buying the swords you want will not quench the desire for the swords you don't have. it may cool it off for a little while but it will not go away. so what do you do? 1. resign yourself to the fact that there will always be swords you want but cannot have 2. As soon as you have your money and are ready to buy, go right out and buy the swords you like best that particular day. 3. forgive yourself for not getting that really cool (insert sword name here) and love what you get. 4. start saving and making plans for the next purchase. this is how most of us survive. Yay, Materialism! M.
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