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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 21:54:03 GMT
Even though I have tried to stick to just axes in this thread,I thought I'd chime in on this one. At a long enough distance from the target, all knives will rotate. Having said that, I have seen men throw from 50 feet, and there blades only do a quarter rotation. This is of course due to the length of the blade. It has been said that a no spin throw is impossible, I dont agree with that. If the instrument in question doesnt fully rotate, then that is a no rotation throw. It doesnt mean that it wouldn't eventually rotate, if thrown from far enough back. Both of you have valid points, It really just comes down to what each of us as individuals know and are capable of. There you have my 2 cents. Oh yeah, it is completely impossible to throw an axe with no spin unless you are a foot away from the target! ;D See that's my point, if it doesn't make a full turn it's considered no spin. Essentially you could call it slow as hell spin but I think no spin is more efficient. And even having said that, there are throws in that video I posted where the blade doesn't rotate at all, not quarter spin, not half spin, not full spin, no spin.
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Post by Avery on Oct 22, 2008 23:19:03 GMT
Well, and please take no offense, it comes down to semantics. Both you and Sam are right, Its really a matter of seeing the ramifications of saying no spin. When you say a knife of excellent balance will not spin at 50 feet, you are right, when he says that same knife will rotate at 100 feet, he is right. No matter the arguments, Lets all take umbrance to the fact that we can all enjoy discussing this in a place where we can express our thoughts without being attacked. (to much. ;D )
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 23:41:58 GMT
Point taken, back on track, When can we expect to see your next videos?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 0:00:34 GMT
Agreed. One of these days I'll get around to getting a better camera then maybe I'll do some throwing vids as well. Maybe. Absilitis has already done a great job of the throwing so I don't know... Anyway if I'm going to focus for now on making newspaper cutting targets.
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Post by Avery on Oct 23, 2008 0:09:17 GMT
despite my better judgement I must say this. In the video you posted above, and again please take no offense at this, there is something I want to point out. The thrower at the2:46 minute mark throws a sword, then immediatly must back up to throw the next blade, which is a differnt length at the 2:51 minute mark. I swear I am not trying to start an argument, but if he can truely throw with no spin, he would have followed through on his first throw with his second. I am not saying it cant be done. Again I mean no direspect, I just feel it is important to scruntinize these things As for the next video, all I can say is I hope soon. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 0:18:22 GMT
Yeah I see that as well, I'm not saying he's a master at it, none of his throws make a full turn though, not even a half turn and many of the throws in that video don't turn at all and some of them hit a bit lopsided.
But the point is that the knife isn't spinning multiple times to get to the target.
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Post by Avery on Oct 23, 2008 0:41:57 GMT
As Ive said, in this instance, everyone is right. ;D as for me, I'll stick to axes from now on. Seriously, let me know how those trailhawks throw for you, I didnt care for them, but they're still good blades. BTW, if they come with 20 inch handles, still pace off at 5, you'll be a bit close, but its always nice to stick on the first throw!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 0:47:24 GMT
hehe okay will do, I think the handles are approx. 19", the first time I read your post I thought you said 20" blades o.0 I definitely think throwing axes is cooler than throwing knives, I wouldn't even be throwing knives if I had something better to do while I wait for my axes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 1:05:55 GMT
Wouldn't it be possible to make a knife with a very light, flared handle that would throw like a dart? Then you would truely have a "no spin" throw! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 1:37:28 GMT
then it would be a dart And you couldn't throw it like a knife or it would just flail around I would imagine.
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Post by Avery on Oct 23, 2008 22:38:28 GMT
Hey, dont we all remember lawn darts?? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 23:28:40 GMT
Hey, dont we all remember lawn darts?? ;D That's exactly what I was thinking of when he said that, used to play that at grandma's house as a kid and they went purdy straight
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Post by Avery on Oct 24, 2008 22:37:29 GMT
Well, heres a question for everyone. The next video that I do, would you like to learn how to throw the axe backwards, or to throw from ten paces? I'll eventually do both, its just with time constraints, I'll only be able to get one done in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2008 22:51:03 GMT
hmm, I'd say go for the one that's most difficult first, ten paces is just an adjustment in hand placement and force behind the throw isn't it? I'm interested to see a backwards axe throw though woot, get my trailhawks tomorrow!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2008 21:59:26 GMT
Well I got em', they throw fine I think, I'm just throwing at cardboard until I get nails to build a target :\ One thing that I'm now angry about is that they put at eye and an allen wrench screw into it, and I missed a throw and hit on the end of the handle and it dug that screw down into the handle so I had to remove those so I could slide the handle back to the top. Axes are definitely more fun than knives
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 1:03:20 GMT
Review?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 1:31:27 GMT
Not much to review, and I don't have much experience.
Basically they've got good weight, they throw almost flawlessly so far. The Finish on the blades are really off, it's got a cross hatch grind on certain parts and then a curdled cheese look everywhere else from the paint or whatever. The hammer poll on the back of the head is cool, it's really neatly ground out and looks even. The grind on the bevel is very very course, and it's semprinied up(excuse the language) one bevel is about 1/6th of an inch and then on the other axe it's like 1/8 and then it has a second bevel on one side of the blade. :\
The handles are in need of sanding out of the box, when I was pushing the head back to the top of the handle I got a sliver. The handles look like they were spun on a lathe, and that's bad with hickory because it splinters like wild. Nothing some sandpaper can't repair real quick. The handles are also about an inch longer than they need to be so I might saw off the ends to shorten them up. The handles have a shark nose type of shape to them which is nice, rounded on the back and pointed at front, they're hickory so they're plenty strong for throwing.
None of it's short comings really bother me, which says a lot coming from me, everything usually has to be perfect or I go crazy but these don't bother me, they feel good in the hand, no astounding stench like I get with most knives and swords. Well worth the money IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 22:12:53 GMT
Well I made a target, and I don't see how anyone could NOT like these tomahawks, I've hit every throw I've made so far, although if you don't sharpen them up or aren't using a stump as a target you'll have a hard time sticking them, I have to choke up a bit and throw hard or they won't stick into the 2X4s I'm using.
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Post by Avery on Oct 26, 2008 22:32:08 GMT
Very nice. Isnt the handle length on those something like 20 inches? I think when I had mine, my paces were at something like 6 and a 1/4. like I said, these werent bad axes, I just didn't care fur them. The set screw was one reason, but now I cant remember the others. But hey, we all throw different, so there really is nothing but opinoins. Glad you have a set of good axes! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2008 22:52:32 GMT
Yeah the screws bothered me too, the handles are almost 19 inches, but they leave an inch of excess at the top of them that isn't really needed so you can cut it off without risking the blades flying off.
How often do you split your handles in half by hitting one axe with another in a throw? I splintered off a piece of one handle and nearly split the other in half with an off throw.
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