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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 9, 2022 18:39:30 GMT
A buckler, a looong dagger and two quillons to poke'em inda eye...
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Post by markus313 on Jun 9, 2022 18:42:38 GMT
From my confined spaces sparring experience, I by far prefer the 22“ targe-style shield and cutlass combination. A well-sized shield works offensively as good as defensively. It’s a huge advantage.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 9, 2022 19:06:29 GMT
Your kung fu is better than mine, just j(p)oking around!
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Post by markus313 on Jun 9, 2022 19:23:36 GMT
A buckler, a looong dagger and two quillons to poke'em inda eye... I have a large main-gauche shell-hilt simulator and love it, but the targe works even better imo
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Post by howler on Jun 9, 2022 19:30:44 GMT
A buckler, a looong dagger and two quillons to poke'em inda eye... A long bladed offhand dagger/Main Gauche with good hand protection like the one you show offers much of the protection that a buckler/small shield would...yup, and ya can cut n'poke'em. Of course, a larger shield is much better, giving greater area and particularly from heavier blows.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 9, 2022 19:48:39 GMT
A buckler, a looong dagger and two quillons to poke'em inda eye... I've got one of those. Good for a thrust. That sail is excellent hand protection, but unfortunately not the wrist nor forearm. A poke to the eye with the quillon works fine. I did this with my Windlass Poignard.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 9, 2022 20:09:22 GMT
You can knock me down to a targe with a spontoon shield boss spike!
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Post by pgandy on Jun 9, 2022 20:25:31 GMT
From my confined spaces sparring experience, I by far prefer the 22“ targe-style shield and cutlass combination. A well-sized shield works offensively as good as defensively. It’s a huge advantage. That is good to know. Up until about a month or two ago my choice was a 23” shield and my cutlass. After finding out it was possible to hit my overhead fan/light I took another look at kukris, then another at machetes. Machetes have always cut better than my kukris. I had both out this morning giving a side by side test and the machete won again due to its thrusting ability. I’ll need more tests but it looks like a machete and the cutlass are in the finals. A #3 thrust w/shield using a cutlass is awesome and my favourite. That curved blade really helps in that move. And ya, the shield works either way offensively and defensively. Those things are great and underrated.
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Post by leed on Jun 9, 2022 23:06:54 GMT
Long bladed double sided two handed spear. Focus on your one blade, don't split your focus. 2 handed parries are as good as buckler. If they get behind you, you're toast either way.
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Post by mountainsylph on Jun 10, 2022 0:40:28 GMT
Yes, absolutely a door way or narrow hall favors the defender in a multiple assailant situation. It's barely possible for one person to effectively attack, let alone two side-by-side. Any more that that, and the assailants will have to step over the dead bodies of the guys in front of them if the want to see any action for themselves. Oddly though, a shield (or in my case the buckler) performed less than expected. I'll have to examine the videos and think about it for a bit, but my impression was that it hindered attack more than it promoted defense. Jury is still out on that one. Could also be due to the fact that using a shield is a new skill for me and I need more training to use it properly. Other trouble is that they might likely come through the window if one could be say (Busy trying to kick in your bedroom door), especially if your door is locked. Some houses have large windows in almost every main room except maybe some rooms designed for more privacy. Modern houses just seem far less secure, even against gunfire because many have these huge gigantic windows versus when homes mainly had small windows which were sometimes secure enough that a pane wasn't used. Like why did people choose to go with that in house designs? Don't really get it when it only makes sense to have larger windows on the upper levels.
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Post by eastman on Jun 10, 2022 1:12:42 GMT
Nudity amplifies the affect of any blades weapon as well. I suggest welding any of the above as nude as possible. Psychological warfare baby. Maybe scream "REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE!" as you charge into battle. The fights over before it begins. Probably the axe murderer ends up calling the police to protect him from you.
quick application of some Battle-Woad and charge yelling FREEDOM!
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Post by glendon on Jun 10, 2022 1:23:08 GMT
(Research English/Scots Border house architecture from the Reiver period.) America has flunked the last century, and must re-learn certain basic civilisation lessons, among them "You can't legislate evil out of existence." The hubris inherent in our faux-sophisticate adolescent "It won't happen here" attitude has all other ancient cultures smirking. Its as if we've forgotten our Great-great Grandad didn't used to stand by with a rifle while Great-great Grandma gave birth.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 10, 2022 1:44:39 GMT
Other trouble is that they might likely come through the window... The fallacy in most of the previous arguments is the fact that no system is 100% fool proof. However, in my case I’ve secured my back from window break through with iron security bars. Ditto for my sky lights. I was rudely awakened this morning with my alarm going off. Within the minute I was receiving phone calls inquiring on my status. Meaning I would have just needed to perform a delaying action. I forgot to mention the alarm was false.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jun 10, 2022 11:32:37 GMT
having manuevered spears around the house while working on them and all the holes in the walls/cielings. No. Not at all useful. Lol
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Post by pgandy on Jun 10, 2022 12:36:02 GMT
having manuevered spears around the house while working on them and all the holes in the walls/cielings. No. Not at all useful. Lol LMAO
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Post by leed on Jun 10, 2022 12:54:19 GMT
Unless your opponent is coming down thru your ceiling, there is no reason to point a spear upwards. Keep it horizontal for stabbing. A spear is not a bludgeon tool.
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Post by pgandy on Jun 10, 2022 13:06:10 GMT
Unless your opponent is coming down thru your ceiling, there is no reason to point a spear upwards. Keep it horizontal for stabbing. A spear is not a bludgeon tool. From your post a few hours earlier “2 handed parries are as good as buckler.” Just curious, but how does one make such parries as to equal a buckler without hitting a wall or ceiling?
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jun 10, 2022 13:18:04 GMT
Unless your opponent is coming down thru your ceiling, there is no reason to point a spear upwards. Keep it horizontal for stabbing. A spear is not a bludgeon tool. From your post a few hours earlier “2 handed parries are as good as buckler.” Just curious, but how does one make such parries as to equal a buckler without hitting a wall or ceiling? You don't. In my close quarters experiment I found out very quickly that most of the tactics you learn in defense won't work. I was consciously aware of the walls and still jammed the sword into them a couple of times when trying to parry. You are relegated to working within a cone of space directly in front of you. Everything has to be done inside of that space, because the walls and ceiling aren't going to move. You have to use different techniques involving thrusts, tip rotations, and side pushes. I think I can be heard on my video saying several times that it's not that easy. You would think that focusing directly in front of you would simplify matters, but it doesn't. And don't forget that your opponent is also restricted to the same area, so everything happens very fast and close in. I had a lot of fun with my experiment and I encourage everybody to try it out for themselves. It's a great way to learn what will work in and actual fight and separate that from what only works on paper....
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Post by pgandy on Jun 10, 2022 15:06:57 GMT
From your post a few hours earlier “2 handed parries are as good as buckler.” Just curious, but how does one make such parries as to equal a buckler without hitting a wall or ceiling? You don't. In my close quarters experiment I found out very quickly that most of the tactics you learn in defense won't work. I was consciously aware of the walls and still jammed the sword into them a couple of times when trying to parry. You are relegated to working within a cone of space directly in front of you. Everything has to be done inside of that space, because the walls and ceiling aren't going to move. You have to use different techniques involving thrusts, tip rotations, and side pushes. I think I can be heard on my video saying several times that it's not that easy. You would think that focusing directly in front of you would simplify matters, but it doesn't. And don't forget that your opponent is also restricted to the same area, so everything happens very fast and close in. I had a lot of fun with my experiment and I encourage everybody to try it out for themselves. It's a great way to learn what will work in and actual fight and separate that from what only works on paper.... Tell me something that I don't know. My post above was made in jest. 😁
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Post by leed on Jun 10, 2022 15:20:59 GMT
Pgandy, with your polearm, you intercept and parry while still pointing in the general direction of the incoming object. No need to turn your polearm sideways, straight up, or into the floor. You parry and quickly attack, before your opponent can react. A pollard can be effective without a huge swing, as weight and momentum us always MORE than a sword, machete, knife, or arrow.
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