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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 19:28:55 GMT
It is great to see these new voters and there nave been some shifts since the first rounds. I suppose it was only inevitable that the run between Windlass and the CAS/Hanwei parents begins to widen.
Do keep in mind this poll was posted to this section to regard western swords and that polls in other sections such as the Japanese section would share some interesting data.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 11:31:06 GMT
Up for the holidays
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Post by christain on Nov 4, 2019 12:22:53 GMT
Well, I've already posted...but I guess I have to give one more to Windlass. I've got an Arbedo coming soon (I hope), bought through KOA. My shameless self-gratifying birthday present to myself. Now if KOA will just get the ball rolling and SHIP IT........ I ordered it last Tuesday...I think...and had the sharpening service done. I guess the 'adds one week' holds true.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 16:08:21 GMT
This poll will automatically lock on Jan 18, 2038 at 10:14pm.
No rush
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Post by Lord Newport on Nov 5, 2019 18:54:56 GMT
Albion Armorers Gus Trim Arms and Armor Mark Morrow Del Tin Christian Fletcher
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Post by Siward on Nov 9, 2019 7:54:57 GMT
As good as this thread is, it would have been better if it closed and restarted as new every so often so trends could be tracked i.e. Del Tin gaining market share, A&A not etc....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 8:25:21 GMT
As good as this thread is, it would have been better if it closed and restarted as new every so often so trends could be tracked i.e. Del Tin gaining market share, A&A not etc.... Sorry, I disagree. This is strictly a measure of individual experience with producers and not the number swords one owns. The market share changes as new voters appear, or edit their new source choice(s).I did just buy another Del Tin and have bought from most categories. Look at it as collecting one button per voter from a given category. Roughly 72% of the respondents have bought from the CAS/Hanwei and so on. All categories have grown in numbers as more respond to the poll. The poll can be edited until it closes, a couple of decades from now. It is also a roll call of sorts and can be completely anonymous. There are certainly not 129 posters in this subsection, so the total reflects all participating and reading this section since the inception of the thread. Feel free to organize another poll for your own graph plotting, and indeed for each subsection (ancient, Japanese, etc). Cheers GC
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Post by Siward on Nov 9, 2019 20:04:40 GMT
Actually what I had more in mind was a means to evaluate who might be struggling and who not.
For instance, if people knew Lutel was struggling would people have placed more orders with them, either to get a last piece from them or with a view to keeping them up.
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 9, 2019 20:42:16 GMT
Interesting....CAS/Hanwei is in first place .. and i still don't own any of these swords...yet!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 22:38:22 GMT
Actually what I had more in mind was a means to evaluate who might be struggling and who not. For instance, if people knew Lutel was struggling would people have placed more orders with them, either to get a last piece from them or with a view to keeping them up. If one looks at the Lutel issues (both entities) going back two decades, there was always a queue. Popular alternatives and a few successes but more often received late or not at all. Ordering in the past year with the owner/operator having significant real life issues makes increasing orders less desirable all around. Trying to save a producer by swamping them with orders causing the more successful custom smiths pretty much closing order opportunity. Del Tin has never been in trouble financially, nor lacking in sales. Going by your benchmark, A&A must be going under, which it is not. Similarly, A&A typically has little available stock by springtime each year. A&A pricing has doubled and sometimes tripled since the late 1990s. Obviously a failing company? They have expanded production. Gus Trim a case in point where he is now pretty much caught up and even Tinker with some available work. Both have come back from some pretty serious circumstances of too many orders. At any rate, those electing custom or other to vote for Gus, Tink and even Lutel show fewer having owned one of them. When you consider the number of custom or other producers, the numbers are much smaller, proportionally. Hence my not listing many more makers. Just an example (and one could use a car analogy) Randall Knives has a four year wait for production and custom orders. Veterans and associated vendors take priority. Fewer knife owners (overall) have bought a Randall. That doesn't mean Randall is in any type of business trouble. Again, we are not looking at a company's capability to produce but how many have patronized a given producer. Cheers GC
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Post by natasharobsonss on Nov 11, 2019 5:15:50 GMT
I buy swords from CAS/Hanwei (all associated lines)
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Post by susieqz on Nov 20, 2019 1:38:51 GMT
how come so many bot from windlass? you guys like them?am i the only one that thinks them poor?
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 20, 2019 1:40:31 GMT
they are not expensive, alot of people start with windlass swords
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 20, 2019 4:53:30 GMT
Windlass makes hundreds of different swords, some are good, some are bad, some are just ok. Many types you don't get from another vendor, or you don't get a better one necessarily. The trick is to find the good ones. And they are relative cheap.
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Post by Scott on Nov 20, 2019 5:10:30 GMT
Also windlass deal of the day when it's a weapon, a decent sword at $200 or thereabouts becomes a really good deal at $100.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Nov 20, 2019 7:12:39 GMT
Windlass makes a number of pretty good swords as far function goes. The fit and finish might not be perfect (in fact, it usually isn't), but that's fine by me - historically, weapons were never machine perfect.
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Post by wstalcup on Nov 20, 2019 16:22:46 GMT
I like Windlass..good slash for the buck, i'd say. and good cheap swords have their place! great to have a beater sword to practice with and just go nuts!
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Nov 21, 2019 17:57:53 GMT
how come so many bot from windlass? you guys like them?am i the only one that thinks them poor? Nope Sue you're not the only one. I haven't had a lot of good luck with Windlass. For a lower price sword I would go with a Hanwei over a Windlass. I've even had better luck with some Deepeekas over Windlass. But the good thing is there's plenty of makes to choose from. Listen to advice but go with what you think is right for you. It's your money.
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Post by fester on Nov 22, 2019 20:12:53 GMT
Albion - 9
Arms & Armor - 2
Windlass - 5
Toledo - 2
Cold Steel - 2
Weapons edge - 1
Darksword - 4
Angus Trim - 2
John Lundemo - 1
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Post by ballenxj on Dec 2, 2019 16:54:01 GMT
It would appear that Windlass and Hanwei are the leaders here?
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