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Post by Verity on Sept 10, 2019 16:40:22 GMT
No. I could not get all the shipping rust and pitting removed from one side. Unable to find a method to ship it back to China. Sinosword actually did a 100% refund. Last year I shipped it to Verity. He will attempt to resurface it. Yep. I am working through my queue of other projects but I have a tentative plan for Blade Runner's monster (and yes it IS a monster).. It will involve taking off quite a bit of material and putting a distal in, which subsequently will involve completely reprofiling the geometry which will include a proper geometric yakote and kissaki. Additionally the furniture will be redone to include a custom double habaki. I'm sure Blade Runner is getting antsy but the sword is being well taken care of while it waits in queue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 19:56:26 GMT
Verity,
I appreciated your kind offer.
No rush man! LOL! Better it set in your armoury than in my closet. LOL!
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 16, 2019 4:15:32 GMT
Seems like you guys got a great deal on those monster swords. I talked to Van just recently asking to make something similar, and he priced those swords now at at $515 USD.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 16, 2019 16:21:49 GMT
Seems like you guys got a great deal on those monster swords. I talked to Van just recently asking to make something similar, and he priced those swords now at at $515 USD. Is that price just for a blade in shirasaya, or for one fully furnished?
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 17, 2019 0:18:00 GMT
Seems like you guys got a great deal on those monster swords. I talked to Van just recently asking to make something similar, and he priced those swords now at at $515 USD. Is that price just for a blade in shirasaya, or for one fully furnished? It's for the fully furnished version, with basic fittings. Like a basic iron tsuba, lacquered black saya ... etc. Although even at $500 I'm still tempted to get it as I don't know of any other forges that would even attempt something like this.
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 17, 2019 0:18:14 GMT
Seems like you guys got a great deal on those monster swords. I talked to Van just recently asking to make something similar, and he priced those swords now at at $515 USD. Is that price just for a blade in shirasaya, or for one fully furnished? It's for the fully furnished version, with basic fittings. Like a basic iron tsuba, lacquered black saya ... etc. Although even at $500 I'm still tempted to get it as I don't know of any other forges that would even attempt something like this.
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Post by Richard Arias on Oct 17, 2019 3:31:23 GMT
Is that price just for a blade in shirasaya, or for one fully furnished? It's for the fully furnished version, with basic fittings. Like a basic iron tsuba, lacquered black saya ... etc. Although even at $500 I'm still tempted to get it as I don't know of any other forges that would even attempt something like this. I'll give you the same advice I'd give anyone. If you order the sword spend the 2 and a half months (most of my Sinos arrived in the 70 ish day range) training for it. The sword will weigh at least 5lbs. That is Double the weight of swords recommend for sword use by general rules of thumb by most JSA. A student might swing a blade 200 times in a good class minimum. So if you have the money to I would suggest buying a good no bo hi Steel iaito that's as heavy as you can get any start building your neurology and muscle base up. Some working out to build core, back, shoulders, forarm and grip strength would be a good idea also. This blade Blade Runner has is getting a haircut because as I originally thought it was an over reach in terms of use. BUT you can train for it... unless your athletic already then depending on your PRs and PRE you might not need the work. People think I'm being mean here. But I'm trying to tell people to push themselves a little and ascend. Rise to the challenge. You want to swing a big sword you might have to get more efficient with your mass... Or get more... Or both. Because the sword could come out heavier than this blade... Or lighter. But even still my sword is 1.3kg (just under 3lbs) and it took a lot of work to get up to using it for extended periods without massive fatigue. It took a lot of work.... And your pondering something twice the size. So just think about it. The Pole in the Photos is 6lbs and it's 8ft long. Took me 6 months of just doing the form with it a few times a week to really be able to move with it. And it's easier to leverage then your blade would be. 6lbs may not sound like much but balance and distribution of weight can make it feel like an anvil. So if you don't have the work in already I would ponder the work you would have to do to be able to to use this blade with skill if you want to be ready for it when it arrives. Again to anyone who wants to get all mad about my suggestion I hope you would give similar advice to someone buying anything that's challenging to work with. A 600hp muscle car is a risk if the new owner only owned a stock Honda Civic before. A heavy Hickory Bat could hurt a highschool ball player that spent most of his time using aluminum bats ex. And this thread is so long I'm sure a lot of people skim past warnings... So here is a fresh one. Attachments:
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 17, 2019 4:03:57 GMT
It's for the fully furnished version, with basic fittings. Like a basic iron tsuba, lacquered black saya ... etc. Although even at $500 I'm still tempted to get it as I don't know of any other forges that would even attempt something like this. I'll give you the same advice I'd give anyone. If you order the sword spend the 2 and a half months (most of my Sinos arrived in the 70 ish day range) training for it. The sword will weigh at least 5lbs. That is Double the weight of swords recommend for sword use by general rules of thumb by most JSA. A student might swing a blade 200 times in a good class minimum. So if you have the money to I would suggest buying a good no bo hi Steel iaito that's as heavy as you can get any start building your neurology and muscle base up. Some working out to build core, back, shoulders, forarm and grip strength would be a good idea also. This blade Blade Runner has is getting a haircut because as I originally thought it was an over reach in terms of use. BUT you can train for it... unless your athletic already then depending on your PRs and PRE you might not need the work. People think I'm being mean here. But I'm trying to tell people to push themselves a little and ascend. Rise to the challenge. You want to swing a big sword you might have to get more efficient with your mass... Or get more... Or both. Because the sword could come out heavier than this blade... Or lighter. But even still my sword is 1.3kg (just under 3lbs) and it took a lot of work to get up to using it for extended periods without massive fatigue. It took a lot of work.... And your pondering something twice the size. So just think about it. The Pole in the Photos is 6lbs and it's 8ft long. Took me 6 months of just doing the form with it a few times a week to really be able to move with it. And it's easier to leverage then your blade would be. 6lbs may not sound like much but balance and distribution of weight can make it feel like an anvil. So if you don't have the work in already I would ponder the work you would have to do to be able to to use this blade with skill if you want to be ready for it when it arrives. Again to anyone who wants to get all mad about my suggestion I hope you would give similar advice to someone buying anything that's challenging to work with. A 600hp muscle car is a risk if the new owner only owned a stock Honda Civic before. A heavy Hickory Bat could hurt a highschool ball player that spent most of his time using aluminum bats ex. And this thread is so long I'm sure a lot of people skim past warnings... So here is a fresh one. Thanks for the advice and I completely agree. Although I may not plan use this for any iaito, just fooling around, I still would want to properly use this for a reasonable amount of time. Right now I am training my grip a with my 4lb Master Blade by holding it for a prolonged period by the pommel with one hand. I would say I have somewhat of an athletic build at ~210lbs, so I may be able to muscle through some swings.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 17, 2019 4:18:51 GMT
I'm six and a half feet tall and two hundred and twenty pounds. My finished sword is over seven pounds, and it's near the threshold of what I think is feasible as a functional weapon. I still train and cut with it with decent regularity, but I think someone much smaller than me wouldn't have the mass to control it at speed.
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Post by Richard Arias on Oct 17, 2019 16:21:52 GMT
I'll give you the same advice I'd give anyone. If you order the sword spend the 2 and a half months (most of my Sinos arrived in the 70 ish day range) training for it. The sword will weigh at least 5lbs. That is Double the weight of swords recommend for sword use by general rules of thumb by most JSA. A student might swing a blade 200 times in a good class minimum. So if you have the money to I would suggest buying a good no bo hi Steel iaito that's as heavy as you can get any start building your neurology and muscle base up. Some working out to build core, back, shoulders, forarm and grip strength would be a good idea also. This blade Blade Runner has is getting a haircut because as I originally thought it was an over reach in terms of use. BUT you can train for it... unless your athletic already then depending on your PRs and PRE you might not need the work. People think I'm being mean here. But I'm trying to tell people to push themselves a little and ascend. Rise to the challenge. You want to swing a big sword you might have to get more efficient with your mass... Or get more... Or both. Because the sword could come out heavier than this blade... Or lighter. But even still my sword is 1.3kg (just under 3lbs) and it took a lot of work to get up to using it for extended periods without massive fatigue. It took a lot of work.... And your pondering something twice the size. So just think about it. The Pole in the Photos is 6lbs and it's 8ft long. Took me 6 months of just doing the form with it a few times a week to really be able to move with it. And it's easier to leverage then your blade would be. 6lbs may not sound like much but balance and distribution of weight can make it feel like an anvil. So if you don't have the work in already I would ponder the work you would have to do to be able to to use this blade with skill if you want to be ready for it when it arrives. Again to anyone who wants to get all mad about my suggestion I hope you would give similar advice to someone buying anything that's challenging to work with. A 600hp muscle car is a risk if the new owner only owned a stock Honda Civic before. A heavy Hickory Bat could hurt a highschool ball player that spent most of his time using aluminum bats ex. And this thread is so long I'm sure a lot of people skim past warnings... So here is a fresh one. Thanks for the advice and I completely agree. Although I may not plan use this for any iaito, just fooling around, I still would want to properly use this for a reasonable amount of time. Right now I am training my grip a with my 4lb Master Blade by holding it for a prolonged period by the pommel with one hand. I would say I have somewhat of an athletic build at ~210lbs, so I may be able to muscle through some swings. Well if you have a sword that's close then your on the right path. Try simple things and just lightly raising and lowering the sword in cutting motions ( think the second hand on an old school ⏲️ clock. With regular reps your body will just get used to it and adapt. It's often not about size. This Branch of the MJER is hard core and I remind people of it when they mock big sword use. A few people have tried blades that are massive. And when a few people fell Short my response was "well work up to it... Past it." But they either sold the sword or like this one want to give it a bit of micro lipo. But my point stands at the fact that if your sword comes heavier or it feels much different than expected work with it a while before you just quit. Babies fall a lot learning to walk but they just keep at it. I'm dying to get a monster... But I have a more old school goal in mind and the monster sword quest will wait I'm sure 😁 Make sure to post review if you pull the trigger on the blade. I'd be interested in the progress.
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Post by Richard Arias on Oct 17, 2019 21:03:58 GMT
I'm six and a half feet tall and two hundred and twenty pounds. My finished sword is over seven pounds, and it's near the threshold of what I think is feasible as a functional weapon. I still train and cut with it with decent regularity, but I think someone much smaller than me wouldn't have the mass to control it at speed. Jesus... Damn Amazons both of you! 😁 Did you order a Sino? I remember you posting specks. Do you have a review? I would love to see it. Well sorry guys I'm only 5'7 currently walking around at 152lbs. So for me my current sword being well over 2lbs but under 3 is a tall order considering my ultimate dream goal form and intention wise.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 17, 2019 22:25:34 GMT
I'm six and a half feet tall and two hundred and twenty pounds. My finished sword is over seven pounds, and it's near the threshold of what I think is feasible as a functional weapon. I still train and cut with it with decent regularity, but I think someone much smaller than me wouldn't have the mass to control it at speed. Jesus... Damn Amazons both of you! 😁 Did you order a Sino? I remember you posting specks. Do you have a review? I would love to see it. Well sorry guys I'm only 5'7 currently walking around at 152lbs. So for me my current sword being well over 2lbs but under 3 is a tall order considering my ultimate dream goal form and intention wise. I did order from Sinosword, and I admit that the price I paid for it was probably too low for what I received. It must have been a huge pain for the smith to shape, grind, and polish, because my blade was a fairly complex shape. I ordered right after seeing the initial posts in this thread. I upped the distal taper in my specifications to better balance my sword.
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Post by Richard Arias on Oct 17, 2019 23:19:01 GMT
Jesus... Damn Amazons both of you! 😁 Did you order a Sino? I remember you posting specks. Do you have a review? I would love to see it. Well sorry guys I'm only 5'7 currently walking around at 152lbs. So for me my current sword being well over 2lbs but under 3 is a tall order considering my ultimate dream goal form and intention wise. I did order from Sinosword, and I admit that the price I paid for it was probably too low for what I received. It must have been a huge pain for the smith to shape, grind, and polish, because my blade was a fairly complex shape. I ordered right after seeing the initial posts in this thread. I upped the distal taper in my specifications to better balance my sword. Do you have the link? Can't find a review.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 17, 2019 23:53:05 GMT
I did order from Sinosword, and I admit that the price I paid for it was probably too low for what I received. It must have been a huge pain for the smith to shape, grind, and polish, because my blade was a fairly complex shape. I ordered right after seeing the initial posts in this thread. I upped the distal taper in my specifications to better balance my sword. Do you have the link? Can't find a review. I haven't gotten around to a formal review (I've yet to write up a proper review of anything, and I appreciate that I am remiss in doing so). Here is picture I posted of the blade after receiving it, and one I posted after I had finished work on it.
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 18, 2019 0:30:19 GMT
Thanks for the advice and I completely agree. Although I may not plan use this for any iaito, just fooling around, I still would want to properly use this for a reasonable amount of time. Right now I am training my grip a with my 4lb Master Blade by holding it for a prolonged period by the pommel with one hand. I would say I have somewhat of an athletic build at ~210lbs, so I may be able to muscle through some swings. Well if you have a sword that's close then your on the right path. Try simple things and just lightly raising and lowering the sword in cutting motions ( think the second hand on an old school ⏲️ clock. With regular reps your body will just get used to it and adapt. It's often not about size. This Branch of the MJER is hard core and I remind people of it when they mock big sword use. A few people have tried blades that are massive. And when a few people fell Short my response was "well work up to it... Past it." But they either sold the sword or like this one want to give it a bit of micro lipo. But my point stands at the fact that if your sword comes heavier or it feels much different than expected work with it a while before you just quit. Babies fall a lot learning to walk but they just keep at it. I'm dying to get a monster... But I have a more old school goal in mind and the monster sword quest will wait I'm sure 😁 Make sure to post review if you pull the trigger on the blade. I'd be interested in the progress. That man is quite a beast for wielding that large katana with such ease. And will definitely post my review once I get the sword. I`m more or less going to get it, just working out the final specs with Van now. He is trying to advise me to go for a 4cm motoahaba instead, as that will give the sword a much better POB, which I completely agree... however my inner child is crying out for a monstrosity of a blade. I want my final specs to be something along the lines of this: Nagasa: 35.5 inch (90.17 cm) Motohaba : 4.6, cmSakihaba: 4 cm Motokasane: 9 mm, Sakikasane: 6.5 mm, Hamachi: 3 mm Munemachi: 2 mm, Tsuka: 15 inch, Nakagao: 14.5 inch Sorry for mixing up freedom units and the metric ones...am Canadian...using both is kinda my thing.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 18, 2019 0:50:32 GMT
Well if you have a sword that's close then your on the right path. Try simple things and just lightly raising and lowering the sword in cutting motions ( think the second hand on an old school ⏲️ clock. With regular reps your body will just get used to it and adapt. It's often not about size. This Branch of the MJER is hard core and I remind people of it when they mock big sword use. A few people have tried blades that are massive. And when a few people fell Short my response was "well work up to it... Past it." But they either sold the sword or like this one want to give it a bit of micro lipo. But my point stands at the fact that if your sword comes heavier or it feels much different than expected work with it a while before you just quit. Babies fall a lot learning to walk but they just keep at it. I'm dying to get a monster... But I have a more old school goal in mind and the monster sword quest will wait I'm sure 😁 Make sure to post review if you pull the trigger on the blade. I'd be interested in the progress. That man is quite a beast for wielding that large katana with such ease. And will definitely post my review once I get the sword. I`m more or less going to get it, just working out the final specs with Van now. He is trying to advise me to go for a 4cm motoahaba instead, as that will give the sword a much better POB, which I completely agree... however my inner child is crying out for a monstrosity of a blade. I want my final specs to be something along the lines of this: Nagasa: 35.5 inch (90.17 cm) Motohaba : 4.6, cmSakihaba: 4 cm Motokasane: 9 mm, Sakikasane: 6.5 mm, Hamachi: 3 mm Munemachi: 2 mm, Tsuka: 15 inch, Nakagao: 14.5 inch Sorry for mixing up freedom units and the metric ones...am Canadian...using both is kinda my thing. What blade geometry are you going with?
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 18, 2019 1:03:23 GMT
Im going with the following shape: Blade: Shinogi Zukuri Blade Tip: Chu Kassiki
This blade is almost identical to the original blade posted by blade runner, except with more of a distal taper and a longer nagako.
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Post by Richard Arias on Oct 18, 2019 1:31:16 GMT
Im going with the following shape: Blade: Shinogi Zukuri Blade Tip: Chu Kassiki This blade is almost identical to the original blade posted by blade runner, except with more of a distal taper and a longer nagako. I would take vans advance. He and his brother have been doing a lot of projects lately and more than a few bigger blades. They are trying to get you something they are sure they can make and that you will be happy with. If it feels like crap to you your less likely to use it. Lancelot Chan sold his because it was a tad bigger than expected. I have seen a lot of friends buy big guns and never use them. But if you go big just have the mindset to work up to what will be a hunk of metal for sure.
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Post by Richard Arias on Oct 18, 2019 1:48:21 GMT
Do you have the link? Can't find a review. I haven't gotten around to a formal review (I've yet to write up a proper review of anything, and I appreciate that I am remiss in doing so). Here is picture I posted of the blade after receiving it, and one I posted after I had finished work on it. Mine is nothing spectacular. Just a 3rd gen mod that had a bit nicer of a polish with more visible. But just a hair less sharp in some spots where you can see higher and slightly lower grit levels like they missed tiny spots in the final cosmetic stage. I could probably strop it out but would hate trying to strop a 26in blade 😅
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Post by kitkatmike on Oct 18, 2019 1:55:24 GMT
Im going with the following shape: Blade: Shinogi Zukuri Blade Tip: Chu Kassiki This blade is almost identical to the original blade posted by blade runner, except with more of a distal taper and a longer nagako. I would take vans advance. He and his brother have been doing a lot of projects lately and more than a few bigger blades. They are trying to get you something they are sure they can make and that you will be happy with. If it feels like crap to you your less likely to use it. Lancelot Chan sold his because it was a tad bigger than expected. I have seen a lot of friends buy big guns and never use them. But if you go big just have the mindset to work up to what will be a hunk of metal for sure. I have been thinking about the smaller version, here is a different version that Van and I came up with: Nagasa: 33 inch (83.82 cm) Motohaba : 4 cm Sakihaba: 3.8 cm Motokasane: 8 mm Sakikasane: 7 mm Hamachi: 3 mm Munemachi: 2 mm Tsuka: 13 inch Nakagao: 12.5 inch I`m wondering how big will this be exactly... I like a giant cleaver type, something wide. But not sure if a 4 cm motohaba will be as menacing.
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