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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 3:05:50 GMT
Although the quest for this sword is in the Beginners section, thought I should put it in the Japanese Section. This is a Sinosword custom katana (blade is mega wide, dotanuki thick and 36 inches long). I designed every detail and spec. See pics and specs. In some pics, monster katana is shown next to my dojo pro o-katana (o-katana blade is standard width but 33 inches long). Note: Needed more distal taper. Should have had sakikasane at 6mm instead of 8mm. It weighs 5.8 pounds!?! Blade Runner Katana War Sword The final custom specifications that I sent them include: Nagasa: 91.44 cm (36 inches) Motohaba: 4.6 cm (1.81 inches) Sakihaba: 4. cm (1.57 inches) (wanted less Funbari) Motokasane: 9 mm (0.354 inches) Sakikasane: 8 mm (0.314 inches) Note: Wish I had made Sakikasane 6mm instead of 8mm. Sori: 1.77 cm (0.7 inches) Koshi style Tsuka length: 12.750 inches in Imogata or Haichi shape and black on black with Hishi Gami (normal tsuka diameter) Toso (fittings): Silver color Nakago: Within 1/2 inch of tsuka end Mekugi: 2 pins Tsuba: iron rectangle shape 4 inches x 3 inches Blade: Shinogi Zukuri Blade Tip: Chu Kassiki 9260 Spring Steel Mono Tempered Mirror Polished No BoHi No Hamon As sharp as possible with Niku Saya: Black lacquer with Buffalo horn fitting
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Post by stoicshadow on Jul 15, 2017 13:26:15 GMT
Thank you for sharing. This is certainly a unique katana. Out of curiosity and if you are willing to share how long did this commission take and how heavy is the katana, excluding the saya? Finally is there any saya rattle or saya fitting problems?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 16:42:56 GMT
Thank you. It cost $334 + $68 shipping (China to Oklahoma). It was completed in 2 months. No accurate weight measurement yet. Light saya rattle. No saya fitting problems. It came in a sword bag and a silk lined presentation box.
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Post by zabazagobo on Jul 15, 2017 22:34:54 GMT
Love it. I've been wanting to get a 'monster katana' like this for the last few months. I'll probably use your specs as a springboard to work with. How's the momentum behind the swing? I imagine it's pretty intense (and fun)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 23:22:51 GMT
Very intense! See my comments from my beginners section thread about the sword
"To be very truthful, yes it was well worth the money. It was $334 + $68 shipping (China to Oklahoma). Incredibly inexpensive for such a custom sword. I designed the blade and handle in detail. The key to keeping cost down, is focusing on blade design with basic fittings. The high end fittings increase cost dramatically. I own only one real sword, but I have viewed and or handled many swords over the years (practiced Kendo as a teenager), in magazines, and at stores, museums and gun shows. The blade is of mirror polished 9260 spring steel and has all the contours and parts of a katana blade, just bigger. It looks very custom and of high quality. Even my wife said it looks very expensive. It's very beautiful and very deadly. Love it.
I got exactly what I designed. I wanted a Cleaver katana. As Ramses said, it's a chopper. It does not flex, is very thick and mega tip heavy. It is sharp enough to cut paper. It is not meant for parry and thrust action, but for strategic single slashing moves. Most will find the war sword far too heavy to use.
Since its going to be re-polished, I went out and cut with it. I can swing the much lighter dojo pro o-katana fast enough to cut a very slender, light weight and green weed or tree stem easily. I can not swing the war sword fast enough to do the same. It just nicks it. The o-katana can not cut all the way through large diameter, heavier branches. The war sword cuts cleanly all the way through larger, heavier branches with ease....scary easily. If I could learn to swing the war sword faster (as in lawn mower blade fast lol!), I think it could cut weeds and tiny green stems (but that will require me to work out much more haha!). It's designed for heavy targets. If the target does not get out of the way, this sword can destroy it with one strike.
I plan to get another war sword from Sinosword, the same size, except I might add a bo hi and have more distal taper (8 mm to approx. to 6mm?), so it's just as big and wide, but thinner and less weight for faster strikes (or take technical advice from Van - he kept saying it was too heavy for fast strikes and it should be thinner).
Anyone thinking of getting a sword like mine and see my detailed specs. in this thread, please consider the following: If you plan to cut with it, the lighter the target, the more sword weight reduction, to a certain point, for faster strikes. If so, consider a thinner blade with more distal taper (base-motokasane and toward tip-sakikasane) and a bo-hi (fuller or groove)....". If you want a very heavy, tip heavy chopper, here it is.
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Post by vermithrax on Jul 15, 2017 23:46:47 GMT
No to Bo-Hi!!!!!! Just say no LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 2:29:54 GMT
Yeah!
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Post by zabazagobo on Jul 16, 2017 3:37:17 GMT
Sweet, just what I had hoped to hear. Sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. Trees and such beware, mwahaha.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 3:45:27 GMT
Oh yeah! It's so sharp, heavy, wide and long with very little profile taper (blade is wide all the way), the shearing force seems almost magical....yeah magical.
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Post by zabazagobo on Jul 16, 2017 22:13:52 GMT
Who says a katana can't cut through a tank? They haven't seen this. Haha
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 19:37:23 GMT
Yeah, I would love to do a destruction video showing it cut through other swords, metal trash cans, small cars, etc.!!! Haha!
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Post by Richard Arias on Jul 19, 2017 6:44:46 GMT
I just want to see you be able to make it through a mat cutting session with that thing :) I usually find big swords work similar to big bore gun calibers. Everyone likes a Magnum load until you spend a day shooting it. Don't get me wrong the sword is cool, but I don't think it's practical or user friendly in almost every aspect of sword use. Like a .500 Smith and Wesson its cool, but more a novelty round to most shooters.
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Post by Croccifixio on Jul 19, 2017 7:25:56 GMT
It's definitely more novelty than practical hand to hand weapon, but that thing is beastly and thick.
A bit of a tangent, but one thing I like about Lancelot Chan's personally designed swords is that they look so big but are made in such a way as to be really wieldable (aka, very thin). You just need good heat treat to keep it from just flopping all over the place.
In any case, I do like the look of dominance on that thing. Wish you could post a video or pic of you holding it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 8:24:39 GMT
Richard - Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to provide your comments. However, I must respectfully disagree with you. Using your examples, if a person we're to use a larger than normal weapon, they may practice inpart, with a smaller version and finish with the large version. Such as shooting a .22 pistol for most the day, to keep muscle memory and aiming skills, then finishing with a big bore pistol. I use my dojo pro O-katana for the most part and finish with the katana war sword. See video below.
The last participant in the video is the only one to cut the maximum amount of mats. He is using a katana as wide or wider than my katana war sword. I am sure he practices in part with a normal version. But when, it came to the single most important cut, he used the large katana. Therefore, I would contend that, the large katana was proven to be very practical for it's intended use, because he won.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 10:36:49 GMT
Crocc - Thank you. I love Chan's swords and reviewed them when designing this sword. However, I wanted the blade to have all the contours of a katana blade and I wanted no flex. I wanted maximum shearing force and I got it! Haha! Would be nice to do a video cutting mats....many mats.....at one time.
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Post by Richard Arias on Jul 20, 2017 7:56:39 GMT
Richard - Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to provide your comments. However, I must respectfully disagree with you. Using your examples, if a person we're to use a larger than normal weapon, they may practice inpart, with a smaller version and finish with the large version. Such as shooting a .22 pistol for most the day, to keep muscle memory and aiming skills, then finishing with a big bore pistol. I use my dojo pro O-katana for the most part and finish with the katana war sword. See video below. The last participant in the video is the only one to cut the maximum amount of mats. He is using a katana as wide or wider than my katana war sword. I am sure he practices in part with a normal version. But when, it came to the single most important cut, he used the large katana. Therefore, I would contend that, the large katana was proven to be very practical for it's intended use, because he won. You miss my point... And also As a pistol instructor I must say what your talking about builds target shooting, but piss poor defensive shooting ability. The smallest calibers I allow to be shot unless it's a special case is a .38 or 9mm if they have an auto. Defensive shooting is about learning Stance, Grip and trigger manipulation. Target shooting is also to a point, but shooting race guns with nothing calibers muddies that fact. If you can't hold a gun firm, straight and pull the trigger without moving the pistol your aim does not matter. Shooting a M&P to work your skills then a Shield because it's your carry gun is okay because characteristics are similar. But that video of yours is a Bad example and not really swordsmanship. It's full of bad form and little technical consideration. They are thinking all they have to do is swing it and the sword gets the rest done. Notice all the shocked looks and confusion when the majority fail? It is a competition event and little more. The sword that "won" isn't a sword for kata, Iai or Combat. It would be a pain to use in any of those tasks. But that is the point is if you can't use your big sword the way you would a normal one then its a novelty. Not that that is bad if thats your reason for having it. But I feel that people should see novelty items for what they are as functional, but mostly end up "safe Queens" like many huge bulky guns and big bore calibers. Like I said the sword is cool, but how much are you really getting from it besides saying "look at my big sword"? Maybe this is just a hangover from a bad range day. Another newbie bought a massive 1911 when it's so impractical for CCW in a variety of ways. This gets to me a little because this sword isn't really for swordsmanship as a whole, but a very narrow aspect. But people will want one like it without really thinking " why?". A sword student I know bought a Raptor Nambokucho and he is 14 weighing in at 123lbs... I told him flat it's not a good start point. But on some thread he just saw one and went "BIG Sword" and didn't think... Is this a good idea? Not picking on you. Not saying the sword would not be fun to cut a few mats with. But I'm putting it out there before some newbie copies your order that this sword is not practical nor wise for the average Joe to whip around. Because I feel that opinion and caution is lacking in many pubic areas. Sorry if I offended its not my intent just can't shut off the teacher part of my brain today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 9:25:49 GMT
Richard - Thank you for taking the time to provide your comments. However, previous to any of your posts, I posted in this thread, a "disclaimer" of sorts, as to the size and weight and use of this sword . I also made recommendations as to specification changes, depending on the intended use by others. I still must provide an accurate weight, as I want others to be aware of it and make changes as they wish. As I have stated previously in this thread and or others, I find this sword extremely dangerous because of it's size, weight and sharpness. Which is how I designed it and wanted it. But others may not (or need not). I attempted to provide you an extreme pistol example to provide an obvious point. Of course no one fires a .454 pistol all day long, and of course, no would swing this sword all day long, but both have an intended purpose. The person that stops a large bear with that .454 pistol would not consider it a novelty. The person that cuts through more mats with the larger katana would not consider it a "novelty". Both did it's intended purpose and are unique and effective, specialized weapons. Therefore, I do not consider my sword a"novelty". It is a unique and effective cutting weapon. Regardless, if I display it or I use my sword, I prefer to call it fun and enjoyment. Light'n up man. Your a teacher, you obviously like to help people, teach us some sword cutting techniques.
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Post by Ifrit on Jul 20, 2017 9:46:20 GMT
It is an alternative purpose Katana.
There are regular Katana on the market, he owns one and can buy more. Nothing wrong with something different.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 10:08:59 GMT
Wow, Djin. You did it again. You convey in a few words what I try to say in far too many words.haha!
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Post by Richard Arias on Jul 21, 2017 3:10:32 GMT
Richard - Thank you for taking the time to provide your comments. However, previous to any of your posts, I posted in this thread, a "disclaimer" of sorts, as to the size and weight and use of this sword . I also made recommendations as to specification changes, depending on the intended use by others. I still must provide an accurate weight, as I want others to be aware of it and make changes as they wish. As I have stated previously in this thread and or others, I find this sword extremely dangerous because of it's size, weight and sharpness. Which is how I designed it and wanted it. But others may not (or need not). I attempted to provide you an extreme pistol example to provide an obvious point. Of course no one fires a .454 pistol all day long, and of course, no would swing this sword all day long, but both have an intended purpose. The person that stops a large bear with that .454 pistol would not consider it a novelty. The person that cuts through more mats with the larger katana would not consider it a "novelty". Both did it's intended purpose and are unique and effective, specialized weapons. Therefore, I do not consider my sword a"novelty". It is a unique and effective cutting weapon. Regardless, if I display it or I use my sword, I prefer to call it fun and enjoyment. Light'n up man. Your a teacher, you obviously like to help people, teach us some sword cutting technique Well that is the problem. People have to lose an attitude with Guns and Swords. I could give you a few drills and exercises to build a foundation for good sword use. But you would have to devote time to it. To many people just go right to cutting and don't work on things before. Bokken work, Suburito work maybe some Iaito drills are what facilitate good sword cutting habits. Fact is the more convenient something is to use and train with the more you will do it. But if you have any specific requests I can point you in a good direction.
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