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Post by Aikidoka on Feb 24, 2016 16:03:46 GMT
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Post by Aikidoka on Feb 24, 2016 16:14:52 GMT
The two Viking weapons almost have the look of Zombie Tools weapons:
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 24, 2016 16:18:14 GMT
Well, as one not generally into the Euro market, that seax has me intrigued.
Would be interesting to know where these are coming from, as they can't be Indian, unless laws have changed...
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 24, 2016 16:44:44 GMT
Very interesting. No stats yet so we all have to wait and see. Some of them look familiar in terms of fittings...
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Post by Aikidoka on Feb 24, 2016 17:00:19 GMT
And it looks like the seax has an engraved mark of 2 crossed khukuris. If that is their new maker's mark, it's a big improvement over the "Windlass" and "Made in India" stamps
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Post by pgandy on Feb 24, 2016 18:09:39 GMT
This one catches my eye. And it indeed appears that Windlass has changed their logo, at least for this serious. I didn't mind their old ones, the label came off and the laser? marking easily rubbed off with metal polish. One of my objections with Windlass was their mirror finish with much of the what should be defined edges washed out. Looks like that has changed. www.medievalcollectibles.com/p-39556-agincourt-war-sword.aspx
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Post by nddave on Feb 24, 2016 19:56:14 GMT
Nice, so these are from the Battlecry line MRL announced in their 138 catalogue. Still no info on MRL's site but its cool to finally see what these swords will look like. Here's the announcement of the Battle Cry Line also introducing John Clements who is apparently partnering with MRL to design this line of swords. From the panel in the #138 catalogue page 2c, "Museum Replicas is proud to be working with a recognized international expert on swords and swordsmanship, John Clements. John is one of the foremost instructors of Medieval and Renaissance fighting arts in the world and he is bringing that expertise to our soon to be released Battle Cry Line. His input and testing of each piece is exhaustive and thorough giving us an edge over similar lines. A pioneer in the study of historical combat methods, his writings have been featured in publications world-wide and he has appeared in numerous television and film documentaries. A student of the sword for over 35 years, Clements has taught and lectured in 17 countries along side some of the most renowned sword experts including Ewart Oakeshott and is a major force in the field of historical fencing studies. When not working with MRL he is the director of the ARMA." I am actually excited to see these swords and this new line and hope that Clements' involvement will allow this line to step up above the usual flaws found in most Windlass models, especially their most latest ones that seem clunky and overly aesthetic as opposed to more historical and balanced. If some of you don't know who John Clements is, he's been in numerous medieval sword documentaries, with the most recognized probably being Reclaiming the Blade where he talks about Renaissance swords and Rapiers while doing demonstrations. I cant remember the specific documentary ( might have been RtB too haven't watched it in a while) but he showed a good demonstration debunking the katana sharpness myth ( and further proving blade geometry is more important than a sharp edge) by cutting tatami with a blunt bastard sword. (found it)
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Post by nddave on Feb 24, 2016 20:15:35 GMT
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 24, 2016 20:35:38 GMT
That Agincourt looks great and with defined lines too. Would like to know what Mr. Clements has done with the distal taper. And I hope that finish is not etched but sprayed on, so it can be removed.
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Post by nddave on Feb 24, 2016 20:46:46 GMT
That Agincourt looks great and with defined lines too. Would like to know what Mr. Clements has done with the distal taper. And I hope that finish is not etched but sprayed on, so it can be removed. The more I look at these swords the more I see other Windlass models. With the Agincourt I see the blade of the discontinued Great Ouse River Sword or Towton Sword. I too hope that John has really put Windlass to the grindstone (pun intended) regarding taper and balance. Again since these swords (specifically the Agincourt and Acre) look like previous Windlass swords with apparent profile and furniture upgrades, perhaps the proof is in the pics as these new swords look to have definitely been upgraded over the current Windlass offerings. Not a fan of the Black either but whatever sells I guess, lol. I like mine bright and shiny.
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Post by Aikidoka on Feb 24, 2016 20:56:29 GMT
That Agincourt looks great and with defined lines too. Would like to know what Mr. Clements has done with the distal taper. And I hope that finish is not etched but sprayed on, so it can be removed. The more I look at these swords the more I see other Windlass models. With the Agincourt I see the blade of the discontinued Great Ouse River Sword or Towton Sword. I too hope that John has really put Windlass to the grindstone (pun intended) regarding taper and balance. Again since these swords (specifically the Agincourt and Acre) look like previous Windlass swords with apparent profile and furniture upgrades, perhaps the proof is in the pics as these new swords look to have definitely been upgraded over the current Windlass offerings. Not a fan of the Black either but whatever sells I guess, lol. I like mine bright and shiny. The profile of the Agincourt blade looks similar, but unless the measurements on that website are way off, the blade on the Agincourt, at only 30.25 inches, is much smaller than those 2 previous Windlass blades. If the blade is in fact longer (35-36 inches), then I would be interested in this one too.
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Post by nddave on Feb 24, 2016 21:11:19 GMT
The more I look at these swords the more I see other Windlass models. With the Agincourt I see the blade of the discontinued Great Ouse River Sword or Towton Sword. I too hope that John has really put Windlass to the grindstone (pun intended) regarding taper and balance. Again since these swords (specifically the Agincourt and Acre) look like previous Windlass swords with apparent profile and furniture upgrades, perhaps the proof is in the pics as these new swords look to have definitely been upgraded over the current Windlass offerings. Not a fan of the Black either but whatever sells I guess, lol. I like mine bright and shiny. The profile of the Agincourt blade looks similar, but unless the measurements on that website are way off, the blade on the Agincourt, at only 30.25 inches, is much smaller than those 2 previous Windlass blades. If the blade is in fact longer (35-36 inches), then I would be interested in this one too. They got to be off, looking at the handle's apparent two-handed length (guessing 6-8") compared to the blade's length, there's no way that blade is only 30". If so that image is playing some big tricks on my eyes. playing with the pic and estimating the handle is around 7", I'd say that blade is right around 35".
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Post by pgandy on Feb 24, 2016 23:02:52 GMT
This is a crude measurement of the Agincourt’s blade but I get something in the neighbourhood of 32.9”. I did this by measuring the blade on my lap top screen. Then the grip, from the rear of the guard to the leading edge of the pommel. They measured 202 mm and 43 mm respectively. I then an arbitrary assigned 7” to the grip and set it up as a proportion and did the math. As I said it's crude but I think it's safe to say the blade is longer than 30.25". Regardless, the distal taper is the big question in my mind.
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Post by jwest on Feb 24, 2016 23:42:07 GMT
Well, as one not generally into the Euro market, that seax has me intrigued.
Would be interesting to know where these are coming from, as they can't be Indian, unless laws have changed... Random look here under knives. Arma Epona
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 24, 2016 23:46:36 GMT
Well, as one not generally into the Euro market, that seax has me intrigued.
Would be interesting to know where these are coming from, as they can't be Indian, unless laws have changed... Random look here under knives. Arma EponaOoh... Hmmm...
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Post by jwest on Feb 24, 2016 23:57:39 GMT
Its cheaper to buy directly from the forge rather than going through Wulflund. Also koa might be able to order it. They already sell the blunt version.
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Post by jwest on Feb 25, 2016 3:38:50 GMT
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 25, 2016 4:04:10 GMT
JC eh? Well at least he has a lot of experience handling antiques and high end swords. I eagerly await the measurements of the swords, especially weight and thickness.
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Post by demonskull on Feb 25, 2016 4:11:06 GMT
This line looks interesting.
As far as the crossed kukri logo, this is actually an old logo of Windlass and appeared on many of the early knives and swords carried by both MRL and Atlanta Cutlery.
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Post by vinland on Mar 1, 2016 5:19:28 GMT
That falchion seems interesting, though I'm not a fan of the blackened coating, hopefully it can be removed fairly easily
Never noticed that sword of avalon before, has anybody heard some stuff about it?
Would be interested in seeing how they compare to other swords of that price
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