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Post by Vincent Dolan on Apr 28, 2011 17:24:58 GMT
[/a][/quote] Not bad, but in-game, the T-1 is a slashing weapon rather than a thrusting one, so perhaps less profile taper and a more rounded tip would be in order.
Also, needs more Forerunner glyphs on the blade. :lol:
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Post by MOK on Apr 28, 2011 18:11:19 GMT
Nice! Although, with such a relatively long blade, I'd add some sort of brace for the forearm so the whole thing doesn't just rotate around the grip with the slightest lateral pressure. And maybe make the blade more diamond-shaped in cross-section, to increase stiffness and penetration.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2011 19:00:21 GMT
i know it is more of a slshing weapon in the game, but i thought that because the master chief and the aliens are all wearing heavy (steel?) armor, a thrusting type of weapon would work better. also a thrust-orientated fighting style wuld possibly work better with the katar like grip.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Apr 30, 2011 0:27:28 GMT
See, that's where the distinction between plasma and steel comes in. With plasma, you can cut through any kind of armor once the shields are down, which is why a slashing weapon would work just as well as a thrusting weapon. Personally, I think it would work better as a slasher than a thruster simply because of its length. A katar is so effective because of how short it is; make it the length of the T-1 and it'll be pulling itself out of your grip by gravity alone. That's why the pata had several braces for your arm in addition to the grip, since its blade could be up to 44" long and was far thinner than the katar (and T-1). Fighting wise, if it becomes a solely thrusting weapon with limited slashing capabilities, you kinda doom it to a long range thruster like a rapier, but with none of its speed (In game, the T-1 is 51.25" long overall and weighs 5.2lbs even though the majority of its bulk consists of plasma). Because you can't shift your grip like on a conventional sword, any shorter thrust while drawing your hand back beyond your body becomes very difficult; to do so, it would have to be a horizontal thrust, which, due to the design of the blade, could result in you disemboweling yourself. Meanwhile, as a slasher, it would retain most, if not all, of the liveliness and maneuverability of an arming sword. Lastly, the weight of a steel weapon this size. It's 1.5' wide at the very base where it curves around the hand in game, so without that, it's still be likely to be something on the order of about 4-5" wide at the base. Even with all that profile taper, that's a lot of steel to be swinging around; you'd need fullers running down the blade similar to on an XVII. Also, a little off topic, but as to the armor they wear, the MJOLNIR Powered Armor System is composed of layered titanium alloy, which I imagine would be quite brittle unless properly treated, so a good slash would probably break through it. The Sangheili combat harness, on the other hand, is really just that: a harness. It's not actually armor. It's meant more as a psychological weapon as well as a uniform than armor, which their energy shields handle. There's a reason humans gave them the name "Elites". Anyways, sorry for going into that little tirade.
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Post by JohnE on May 2, 2011 2:56:39 GMT
I don't know if you'd call this a redesign, a reimagining, or an inspired-by, but here's my take on the Conan sword. It's based on Celtic anthropomorphic swords, as Conan is essentially a pre-historic proto-celt.
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 1:30:08 GMT
That he is. But then, the sword in "The Thing in the Crypt" (and thus, in the movie) was not made by Conan's people - unless you count his antedeluvian ancestors from aeons past, long enough ago for Atlantis to sink, its exiles wander north beyond the lands known to mankind, there to degenerate into literal apemen, and then claw their way back up to humanity, all already far beyond living memory in Conan's time. Of course, there's a similar incomprehensibly vast chasm of time between the Cimmerians and the Celts, too... But on the other hand, Conan's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay distant Atlantean ancestor King Kull once fought alongside Gaels, Britons, Picts and Norse raiders against the Romans occupying Britain... so damned if I know. "Time and space exist not. There was no past, and there shall be no future. NOW is all. All things that ever were, are, or ever will be, transpire now. Man is forever in the center of what we call time and space. I have gone into yesterday and tomorrow and both were as real as today - which is like the dreams of ghosts!" That pointless aside notwithstanding, I'd worry about hurting myself with all the pointy bits on the hilt.
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 1:58:24 GMT
And now, here's what I actually came here to post. Yeah, I waffled on about probably not doing it, but, well, I changed my mind. Insomnia and plain old boredom are powerful persuaders. So here you go: a heron-marked sword from Wheel of Time. 43 inches overall length, with a 31-inch blade - the proportions are very similar to katana, but the blade shape owes more to Thai dha and the overall style is undeniably European. I took some inspiration from the official Heron Marked Sword by Windlass, mostly the presence of a curved single-edged blade and siderings. The blade starts out a third of an inch thick, but tapers quickly as it starts to grow wider towards the point. The blade's cross-section is basically a simple convex wedge shape all the way through, but with the changing thickness and width it actually becomes quite complex as a whole. No fullers or anything like that to control the balance: it's achieved purely by the variation in width and thickness of the blade and tang, resulting in a strikingly severe blade profile with wide, featureless flats - and, hopefully, impressive cutting performance. I imagine the center of balance to be about five inches down the blade from the guard. The 10-inch grip is octagonal in cross-section, wrapped in cord and leather with three risers. All the metal hilt components are blackened. The right sidering is filled with a plate pierced with nine stars, the ends of the recurved quillions bear similarly pierced waxing and waning moons, and the Eye of the Sun is inlaid in gold in both hollows of the chamfered disk pommel. All this decoration probably had deep spiritual meaning to the sword's original owner, but he's long gone and forgotten and so are his beliefs, so now it's all just eye candy. And there's that heron in silver inlay on the blade, of course. And naturally it's one of the swords made with the One Power, because why the hell not. I know I for one would love a literally maintenance free blade.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 4, 2011 2:20:41 GMT
I want, I want, I want, I want! That thing is gorgeous, MOK! Although, I should point out that Heron Marks have the Heron on the grip, as well (at least, Rand's does, which is why he was rather noticeable in Eye of the World).
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 2:33:07 GMT
Oh yeah, that's right... damn. Well, you could inlay another heron in the hollow on one side of the pommel - or on the upside of that pierced plate. The latter might be better, it's a bigger and flatter surface. You could even incorporate the piercings into the design, somehow. Actually, if it were up to me I think I'd do a standing heron on the hilt, and one in flight on the blade. Catch my subtle symbolism, there?
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 4, 2011 2:38:44 GMT
Definitely. It'd have to be on the palm side of the hilt for a righty, since I think there's supposed to be something about it getting burned into someone's palm (I've only read the first book, though I've got two more on the way), plus it'd be more visible to people who're just looking down at your waist.
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 2:54:36 GMT
You know, if you wanted it on the grip itself - so as to be in position to be burned into your palm - it could be done as a menuki under a Japanese style tsukamaki kind of wrap. Don't know if it would work with this grip shape, though...
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 4, 2011 3:02:56 GMT
That's true. But, I gotta admit, I agree with you, herons or no herons, it's a sweet design. I was talking about from an accuracy point of view. I'd personally prefer it with no herons since I'm not a major fan of engraving on the blade.
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Post by JohnE on May 4, 2011 5:43:47 GMT
They'd make for some wicked pommel strikes though. :twisted:
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 5:46:51 GMT
True dat.
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 15:03:23 GMT
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 4, 2011 15:06:15 GMT
That's actually kinda cool, but I'm still not one for engravings that much.
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 15:14:45 GMT
The one on the blade could also be etched - or, if you're working with the One Power, even built into the steel itself simply by varying the carbon content locally to produce the darker lines.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on May 4, 2011 15:37:22 GMT
Well, since we don't have the One Power to call to work our blades, we'll have to settle for etching. Though you could always plate the herons into the blade after etching them.
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Post by Elheru Aran on May 4, 2011 18:20:23 GMT
Without going into specifics, the heron mark *is* burned into Rand's hand. I believe it was an ornament on the hilt, so a type of mekugi sounds about right, or even something along the lines of a badge stuck onto the side of the grip. I think it's just the head though, not sure.
This is a pretty sweet design, and that grip shape is hitting all the right buttons with me... whenever there's another sword-design contest, you better submit that one...
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Post by MOK on May 4, 2011 19:17:16 GMT
Of course, this is a heron mark sword, not Rand's sword specifically. Or his other sword, either. It's mine. Mine, damnit! I all but despise the books, and here I am pining for a fan product I myself designed... life's kinda weird sometimes.
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