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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 6:52:13 GMT
I'm waiting for my han jian from Garrett. But yours definitely looks awsome. Now I feel like placing another order. ;D I would love to see how it cuts. I plan to do some serious cutting with mine too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 23:09:22 GMT
lol I doubt I'll be doing any cutting with it any time soon, but its sharp as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 3:37:57 GMT
A full review is a must M.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 4:26:54 GMT
Seems alot of us are either waiting for or considering one of these beautiful blades, I am seriously considering one much the same as yours only shorter and lighter and with a wooden handle and scabbard with a shiny dark green lacquer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 2:15:09 GMT
Seems alot of us are either waiting for or considering one of these beautiful blades, I am seriously considering one much the same as yours only shorter and lighter and with a wooden handle and scabbard with a shiny dark green lacquer. LOL I emailed Garrett yesterday for a quote on the exact same thing. Tang dynasty jian with dragon green laquer. I got the idea when I was digging through his photobucket page of previous works. Pirate: Want mor picz! I especially would like closeup details of the guard both sheathed and unsheathed. Also: What's the blade length of your sword?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 6:59:59 GMT
You bugger violent, you want everything of mine! I'm kidding, it is just such a beautiful looking piece and with the dark green lacquer would be so gorgeous, just need to get my money situation sorted out and sell one of my pieces *hint hint Violent*
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 7:01:30 GMT
Also: What's the blade length of your sword? I'll try to get some accurate measurements asap... when I take the pictures.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 15:01:54 GMT
I got the idea when I was digging through his photobucket page of previous works. Got a link to the page? Or do you think he'd mind if a few more of us were to look at his past work?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 15:07:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 16:02:58 GMT
You mean the Green Dragon Jian?
I'm having trouble telling the different styles of Jian apart, honestly. Even with the link that (I think) sirtre gave me in the other thread, I don't understand what, specifically, sets a Tang jian apart from a Han Jian from a Qing Jian from a Qing or Mingor Yuan or... Can anyone actually help me with that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 16:21:35 GMT
My assumption would be the style of fittings used would be different, but I could be wrong.
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Post by sicheah on Mar 5, 2010 17:14:23 GMT
You mean the Green Dragon Jian? I'm having trouble telling the different styles of Jian apart, honestly. Even with the link that (I think) sirtre gave me in the other thread, I don't understand what, specifically, sets a Tang jian apart from a Han Jian from a Qing Jian from a Qing or Mingor Yuan or... Can anyone actually help me with that? The fittings in the early Han period is the pommel discs, scabbard chape and slide. The fittings characteristic is eerily similar to late Roman spatha and viking period swords. Later Han imperial swords/dao replaces the pommel and with a pommel ring and introduced the with rayskin/samegawa on their handle (sounds familiar eh ) In fact even during the late Han dynasty, the dao/to have the chisel shaped kiriha zukuri kissaki similar to Japanese chukuto. The swords used by imperial guards where called yi-dao (if I am not mistaken). By the tang dynasty, the ring pommel is discontinued (rayskin remained) and they introduce (perhaps earlier) the tunkou (habaki/sword collar) with fittings on the scabbard chape and pommel in some sense similar to a Japanese tachi fittings of kojiri and kashira. The tang dynasty dao also have decorative fittings which is known as menuki and the lanyard is replaced with a mekugi. Basically my 2 cents of my crappy history on Chinese swords
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 20:44:01 GMT
sicheah, I didn't follow that very well. Especially all the Japanese terms. Can I convince you to try again? I seem to be a little slow on this topic. We are talking about the tang jian with the same colour scheme as the green dragon jian. I didn't see any green jian other than the green dragon...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 21:03:36 GMT
Nono, were talking about custom designing a jian from Garrett. The design would be the same as the Tang Dynasty jian, but instead of the wood handle and scabbard we were looking at having it laquered like the green dragon jian.
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Post by sicheah on Mar 5, 2010 21:13:04 GMT
sicheah, I didn't follow that very well. Especially all the Japanese terms. Can I convince you to try again? I seem to be a little slow on this topic. We are talking about the tang jian with the same colour scheme as the green dragon jian. I didn't see any green jian other than the green dragon... LoL I my history is rather superficial too and Thomas Chen's website is down so I can't point to much on the web. Perhaps some good book from a local library/bookstore might help? www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?/topic/2750-recommended-reading-on-ancient-chinese-weapons/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2010 21:58:10 GMT
Taran, what my limited understanding is, is that it's simply different style of fittings were used for Jian during the different time periods. If I'm not mistaken (please feel free to correct me here, as I'm not certain on this) I think it was sometime in the Song dynasty the the single handed Jian became more common than the two handed version, although the Jian lost dominance to the Dao as the main battlefield weapon in the late Han dynasty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2010 0:05:40 GMT
I see, VS. I imagine it'll be quite beautiful. Speaking of such things, the Hei Tan, am I imagining things or is that an ebony? s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad37/jsdaojian/Options/?action=view¤t=wood.jpgThat's what I was figuring, Liam, but I haven't figured any rhyme or reason to what fittings are considered what style. Are the Matching Jian, Jin Hua Jian, Green Dragon, Long Quan and Dragon Motif Jian all the same style? Or...?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2010 1:18:44 GMT
It's ebony, I originally was considering having it for my sword, but Garrett told me it didn't react very well to the length of the blade I'd be getting, so I opted to have a different wood (rosewood, I think?) laquered in a textured black.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2010 2:07:36 GMT
I wonder what he meant by that. You didn't ask, did you? How long is your blade?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2010 6:32:29 GMT
I believe the blade length is just short of 40", and garret said the ebony wouldn't respond to such a long size so it'd be best to use a softer wood for something that length.
I'd imagine something more reasonable would work just fine with ebony.
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