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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 1, 2009 19:53:25 GMT
Many Albion swords take that long to get too, unless you get lucky and they have one in stock.
I guess the moral of this story is "good things take time" or "Patience is a virtue"
but yes, it's going to be a long nine months. but on the bright side I have plenty of time to raise the money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 20:04:05 GMT
I better reserve me that Antioch then. Do you have to pay for it all at once?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 20:35:56 GMT
Alright guys, I am sorry to say this, but after watching the fight of Amon Hen in LOTR the fellowship of the ring, I am temped to get the Crecy just because Aragorn's fighting style is so awesome. Dangit, I need to get my money already so that I can buy A sword, otherwise I will just keep changing my mind on what I want.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 20:43:20 GMT
Careful, careful....Hollywood swordfighting is meant to stimulate the senses, enflame the blood but what it is not, is historically accurate. There are a number of times where he would've been skewered by an experienced swordsman, simply because his whirling fighting style is meant to delight the eyes- a simple thrust would end all of that ballet.
You know, I'm a fan of the Trilogy as well, have been for the last 20 years- you might want to pick up one of the Ranger swords that can be had; DSA makes a good looking one, albeit a touch on the heavy side, would be more than willing to sustain any sort of combat you're looking to re-enact. There are others, I believe Christian Fletcher did one too but don't quote me on that.
Anyway, I mentioned the DSA because it is less than half the cost of the Albion Crecy and it is a good looking sword. Check it out.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 1, 2009 20:43:36 GMT
you'll probably find that the 4.5 inch grip on the Antioch will allow you to slip your other hand on the hilt just a little bit.
but by all means get the Albion if that's what you want.
how about this: get one of these swords now, and next summer (or the next time you can get a job that will amass this sort of money) get the other one. I know long-term is no fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 21:27:31 GMT
I have been doing some calculations and I *think* that I may be able to get enough money for the Seneschal. Yes, that is right, the Seneschal. BUT, that doesn't mean that I will get it. The Crecy still looks good. I guess that I will probably get the Antioch. What sword is the Seneschal based off of, and does it handle better than normal Atrim swords? I am just curious. I haven't heard much about the Seneschal. Would it handle as good as the Antioch (I know that one is a longsword and one is a one handed sword...)? I might be able to put a few fingers on the Antioch's pommel, but wouldn't that be bad on the structural integrity of it in the long run?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 1, 2009 22:11:13 GMT
Apples and Oranges Jon, but you know that so I assume you want to know if the Senechal is as much better than the rest of it's type as the Antioch is supposed to be better than it's competition. the short answer: I don't know. I also don't know what sword the Senechal is based off of. it might be like the Antioch in that it's a whole new sword not available otherwise.
I really doubt you would mess up the Antioch by hand-and-a-halfing it, but I don't know for sure.
in the end any CF customized sword should be as attractive as any Albion sword (or more so since people send Albions to him to get gussied up) and any Atrim sword should be as good or better handling than an Albion. so, I say pick your favorite handling and style of ATrim sword and get Christian Fletcher to make it pretty the way you want. and you'll have a sword tha matches or beats Albion in beauty and performance. that's what I'm doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 22:42:43 GMT
So I take it that The Seneschal out performs the Crecy? I am really trying to decide if I want the Seneschal or the Antioch. They are both very tempting to me. Since I will only be cutting water bottles, milk jugs, cardboard and maybe in the future tatami, I need to know if one handed swords or two handed swords are better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 22:55:32 GMT
When I first got into cutting, it was easier for me to cut with two handed swords (hand and a halfs).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 23:55:34 GMT
Since I am partial to two handed swords I will PROBABLY go with the Seneschal. I'm not promising anything, I'm just saying that more likely than not, I will get the Seneschal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 1:19:08 GMT
Ah the joys of a first sword . I was WAY worse then you when I got my first sword...and I could be since it was a custom sword hehe. Anyways, just because it's an albion doesn't mean the sword type is something you will like. The albion baron to me, isn't a good match for me. I can tell it's a good sword for it's type, but I just don't like how it feels. If you HATE type XVs, then no matter how good the albion type XVs are, your just not gonna like any of them. It is one advantage of getting some cheaper swords to see what you really like...at least at a base level. In anycase, a lot of the stances that aragorn does is at least somewhat based of fiore...and the crecy is quite a good sword for doing that style of swordmanship. Just to toss more to the fickled winds .
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2009 1:38:16 GMT
if you are partial to two handed swords then you should drop the Antioch idea. I know it's a great sword and beautiful, but why not get a senechal or an ATrim 1313 or MM type XV or whatever type of two handed sword you like, then have Christian Fletcher do you a custom theme in Antioch style. maybe a XIIa (that's a two handed XII right?) would be just the thing. it would even look right as a crusader's sword with antioch-type pretty-work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 2:09:29 GMT
I think you are misunderstanding why I want to get the Antioch. I think that the Antioch looks really good, but if I had my choice I wouldn't want it to look like that. The reason that I wanted the Antioch is because it supposedly handles extremely good. I think that I am going to have to put the Crecy back on the list though, because I have been thinking some more and I realise that the Crecy is actually a very balanced two handed sword. It is good for both cutting and thrusting. I'm not sure how it would handle compared to the Seneschal, though. So right now I don't know which of the three I want more, but I would prefer a two handed sword over a one handed sword.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2009 2:39:32 GMT
Exactly what I mean. yes, the Antioch is sounding really good but a really good sword that is not the type of sword you want will not be worth it for you. the Crecy, from all reports is also quite a very good sword. go with it or the senechal depending on which one is the type you prefer.
I'm not 100% sure if this is right but I think that the Crecy and Senechal balance out kinda like this:
Crecy: fast cut and thrust sword with a slight prefernce to thrust but still very capable cutting Senechal: Quick but not as fast as Crecy cut and thrust sword with slight prefernce to cutting but still good for thrusting.
me, I'd go senechal but there's some brand-loyalty kickin in there. I suspect either the Crecy or the Senechal would make you very happy. maybe flip a coin?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 2:45:48 GMT
The crecy feels very neutral in hand and very agile in motion. When in motion, it actually feels a lot lighter then the 3 lbs it's suppose to weight. It has good tip control, but it's just good. The senechal from what I remeber felt pretty authortive in hand and quite agile in motion. Not as good as the crecy, but still quite agile for it's type(I was pleasantly surprised). Don't bother with tip control...utter rubbish (not that you have a tip you could use for such anyways ). Both are quite good at being a typical longsword...the crecy wins out because of the stabbing.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2009 2:48:54 GMT
well there you have it, unless you aren't interested in stabbing go with the Crecy. easy. -right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 12:25:19 GMT
Hmm, that is really interesting. Are you sure that it would be hard to stab with the Seneschal? How hard would it be to stab milk jugs?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Jul 2, 2009 12:35:06 GMT
Jonathan, you could stab your way through a milk jug with a grapefruit spoon. you could stab milk jugs with a XIIIa or a dull stick. milk jugs are easy, and fun.
BUT the XVIa has more point control and will be more accurate in a thrust. see the PM I just sent too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 16:33:27 GMT
I read the PM and it makes sense. All I could get out of Mike was, "They are all good examples of each type, but it is like comparing a sports car, a truck, and some other car" or something like that, which was what I was afraid he would say. Oh, and he said that he thinks I should buy 2 or 3 VA swords instead. I'm not too sure about that...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2009 19:04:53 GMT
Albions are 15% off right now so you can see and what your options are again as well.
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