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Post by warriorpoet on Jun 5, 2024 0:42:32 GMT
It is fitting, the first uc lotr prop sword I ever got was theodens herugrim.
I always wished it was something I could use, just to bond with it more, ya know? Remember my old strength better, lol.
Peeled, 1075, this should be good. The stainless prop weighs about 10 lbs, or feels like it! I hope it's a little more handy if it's made to be able to use.
I'd probably get this one again, and sell the non functional prop. I'd do that for all of them I think. The ranger, anduril. I hope they do thorins sword as well.
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 5, 2024 8:02:28 GMT
Maybe something went wrong moving to carbon steel. They said it should become available in february 2024, now it's "unavailable", but so is the stainless version. Found some shops saying juli, I don't believe it though, they have been moving the date since february. The Historic Forge stuff also took some time to roll out, but not quite like this.
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Post by curiomansion on Jun 6, 2024 17:12:23 GMT
"And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge."
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Post by Lionhardt on Jun 13, 2024 11:39:56 GMT
The first batch of these have shipped! They were not able to make enough to fulfill all the pre-orders yet. But they said the rest of the orders will be filled in a couple months. $550.
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 13, 2024 13:24:29 GMT
I can't find Andurils Battle Forged version anymore, has it been withdrawn?
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Post by AJGBlack on Jun 13, 2024 13:29:30 GMT
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Post by Lionhardt on Jun 13, 2024 14:53:11 GMT
I can't find Andurils Battle Forged version anymore, has it been withdrawn? They aren't doing a "battle-forged" Anduril. Just too difficult a design. Only one smith has made a truly functional design. DSA comes close, but it is debatable. They are only doing the Museum Collection Anduril, with a carbon blade and nicer details. Like the rest of the Museum Collection they are nice, but none of them are truly usable. The battle-forged line DOES include at least one sword so far (Herrugrim), and the Rohan axe. If it goes well, they are doing at least a couple more. They ARE hoping to do Isildur's sword. That is why they just nixed the plan for the rerelease of wall-hanger Isildur, because of the plan to do the battle-forged version! Then if it continues to go well, there are whispers of a Boromir. No whispers of a battle-forged Ranger yet, although of course we all want that. Just have to stick with the one Valiant Armoury just launched! Or some of the cheaper not as nice versions (DSA, Kingdom of Arms, Ryansword). Of which Ryansword is by far the nicest! |
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Post by mrstabby on Jun 13, 2024 15:12:28 GMT
That explains it. I am 100% sure some shops said there would be an Anduril. To be honest though, I can't see how Anduril or Narsil are more difficult compared to Herugrim - except maybe the length, but UC does other functional longswords as well, I doubt that would be problematic.
Personally I find Glamdring more attractive than Narsil/Anduril or Herugrim and am always on the look-out for one to show up that's not a wallhanger.
They already kinda do a Boromir sword in their single handed broad sword, wouldn't take much to change it to the one Boromir uses.
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Post by curiomansion on Jun 13, 2024 20:23:11 GMT
I actually broke one of the original UCs years ago. The tang is very poorly constructed. That said, if the museum line improves the tang and pulls of the 1060 blade well enough, it should be an okay cutter.
Any pics of the new Museum Collection Anduril?
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Post by Lionhardt on Jun 14, 2024 1:49:22 GMT
I actually broke one of the original UCs years ago. The tang is very poorly constructed. That said, if the museum line improves the tang and pulls of the 1060 blade well enough, it should be an okay cutter. Any pics of the new Museum Collection Anduril? They don't suggest it is usable at all. It is still cheap zinc hilt parts. That is the biggest limiting factor. You can have as great a tang as you want, if the hilt falls apart when you swing it, it is not usable. Castle Kon just posted a video..they don't have the swords yet, but UC took a quick video before shipping them out. |
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Post by Lionhardt on Jun 14, 2024 1:53:15 GMT
That explains it. I am 100% sure some shops said there would be an Anduril. To be honest though, I can't see how Anduril or Narsil are more difficult compared to Herugrim - except maybe the length, but UC does other functional longswords as well, I doubt that would be problematic. Personally I find Glamdring more attractive than Narsil/Anduril or Herugrim and am always on the look-out for one to show up that's not a wallhanger. They already kinda do a Boromir sword in their single handed broad sword, wouldn't take much to change it to the one Boromir uses. It's the hollow pommel that is the difficult part. You can't use any of the traditional techniques to do it. You need to weld it to the tang, or make a full-profile tang. That is what the one functional version I saw had. That really wouldn't be that hard to replicate at all. Or just weld it as I said. So yeah, can be done, but not using normal techniques most bladesmiths are use to. |
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Post by AJGBlack on Jun 14, 2024 2:01:01 GMT
That explains it. I am 100% sure some shops said there would be an Anduril. To be honest though, I can't see how Anduril or Narsil are more difficult compared to Herugrim - except maybe the length, but UC does other functional longswords as well, I doubt that would be problematic. Personally I find Glamdring more attractive than Narsil/Anduril or Herugrim and am always on the look-out for one to show up that's not a wallhanger. They already kinda do a Boromir sword in their single handed broad sword, wouldn't take much to change it to the one Boromir uses. It's the hollow pommel that is the difficult part. You can't use any of the traditional techniques to do it. You need to weld it to the tang, or make a full-profile tang. That is what the one functional version I saw had. That really wouldn't be that hard to replicate at all. Or just weld it as I said. So yeah, can be done, but not using normal techniques most bladesmiths are use to. could always thread the tang and screw it on. Imagine ending your opponent rightly with that bigg'n! 🤣 |
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Post by Lionhardt on Jun 14, 2024 2:03:47 GMT
It's the hollow pommel that is the difficult part. You can't use any of the traditional techniques to do it. You need to weld it to the tang, or make a full-profile tang. That is what the one functional version I saw had. That really wouldn't be that hard to replicate at all. Or just weld it as I said. So yeah, can be done, but not using normal techniques most bladesmiths are use to. could always thread the tang and screw it on. Imagine ending your opponent rightly with that bigg'n! 🤣 That WOULD be a third option. A nice beefy thread would be plenty strong. Between those three, you really wonder why they DON'T make a functional version then. |
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Post by curiomansion on Jun 14, 2024 6:00:19 GMT
I actually broke one of the original UCs years ago. The tang is very poorly constructed. That said, if the museum line improves the tang and pulls of the 1060 blade well enough, it should be an okay cutter. Any pics of the new Museum Collection Anduril? They don't suggest it is usable at all. It is still cheap zinc hilt parts. That is the biggest limiting factor. You can have as great a tang as you want, if the hilt falls apart when you swing it, it is not usable. Castle Kon just posted a video..they don't have the swords yet, but UC took a quick video before shipping them out. It's definitely able to be constructed properly. The pommel is hollow and a very cheap weld holds the rat-tail to the pommel. The tang actually has a softer metal on the rat-tail to stick the pommel on. The zinc hilt parts are fine if the rest of it is constructed properly, as they don't take much force in most backyard cutting. Pell work might mess it up, but bottle and even tatami and newspaper will be fine. Just not hard unyielding targets. |
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Post by curiomansion on Jun 14, 2024 6:03:01 GMT
All they'd have to do with a properly built tang is epoxy the hilt onto the tang. The original was made like this and a lot of Indian swords are constructed in this manner. I used to be skeptical about this method (despite Peter Lyon vouching for it), but I recently handled a ton of 18th century antiques, and all of them that used the epoxy (or whatever black tar they used) were super tight compared to the swords that didn't. Many of these swords were also peened, but point is the epoxy didn't loosen after all those years. The antique, tar constructed tulwars I've handled were all tight after over a century as well.
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Post by curiomansion on Jun 14, 2024 6:07:48 GMT
@lionhardt I just saw Castle Kon's pics! That blade is gorgeous. Not quite a Peter Lyon hollow grind, but really pretty! I'm tempted get one and try using it on cutting targets.
If it's constructed well enough, I'll be able to cut with my dream sword.
If the blade is good, but the hilt and tang is still crappy:
1: Dovetail weld a new tang.
2: Cast the hilt parts in Bronze, then silver plate. (The only thing that would really need to be recast is the crossguard. Zinc Pot metal is plenty good for the pommel.)
3: Rehilt the sword.
Super exciting!
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Post by suprman1020 on Jul 29, 2024 18:34:44 GMT
I received mine over a month ago.  |
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 29, 2024 18:38:32 GMT
I received mine over a month ago. Oh, please tell us how it is. |
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Post by suprman1020 on Jul 29, 2024 18:41:38 GMT
Honestly, it's great. I just edited my post and added a photo. The sword feels lighter than it actually is and feels very solid. Even if I could go out and cut with it, I wouldn't want to. lol.
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Post by mrstabby on Jul 29, 2024 18:46:09 GMT
Honestly, it's great. I just edited my post and added a photo. The sword feels lighter than it actually is and feels very solid. Even if I could go out and cut with it, I wouldn't want to. lol. What's the weight and PoB? |
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