Jash
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"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum!"
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Post by Jash on Jan 14, 2022 21:13:29 GMT
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Post by JubbeiSamuro on Jan 16, 2022 4:01:35 GMT
Thank you Jash for the great news. Can someone please tell me if this has a full tang? Thank you really excited!
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Post by Lionhardt on Jan 19, 2022 14:55:46 GMT
Yes!!!!
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Jash
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Post by Jash on Jan 21, 2022 0:16:35 GMT
Thank you Jash for the great news. Can someone please tell me if this has a full tang? Thank you really excited! Sadly, no. It is important to note that UC is making sure it's advertising this sword as NOT Battle Ready, but a Higher Quality (and more accurate) replica. The blade will be forged / hardened / tempered. BUT: 1) Hilt construction will be just like their regular Anduril... If I remember correctly - full tang up to the pommel, then rat tail and threaded at the end. I have not seen any pictures of this exact sword tang yet, so not sure how far the full tang goes. From what I've read and heard, the hilt isn't bad, and it can hold up to regular light cutting use, though not intended for it. 2) Pommel and Guard are the standard cast metal and plated. This version might be silver plated (like the older MC swords), but still, not steel... |
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Post by Lionhardt on Jan 21, 2022 2:27:23 GMT
Alright, so I need to get one for sure, but then fashion a proper hilt myself. Or, even better, let's get together and commission someone to make a bunch of hilts for whoever wants them to replace theirs!? It IS frustrating. I knew we have contacts with at least two reps from UC, Drew and Kit Rae himself to some extent. How have we not convinced them that many if not most of us would gladly pay extra for it to have a proper hilt?!
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Post by nddave on Jan 21, 2022 18:10:19 GMT
Sounds like a waste of time then. If it's not full tang why bother with a carbon steel blade let alone heat treating it!? Honestly if interested in a LotR display sword I'd rather have Stainless Steel due to the lower maintenance.
So sadly it seems UC basically made these swords "CARBONSTEEL" to jack up the price $200... no full tang but you get a fancy wall plaque and a flag.... Cool.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Jan 22, 2022 12:57:46 GMT
It is what it is - a carbon blade and a higher level of blade finish with attention to screen accuracy. Collectors will buy it. They’ll undoubtedly sell far more of them at this price point than they would if it cost three times as much with milled fittings and a more creative tang solution. The Anduril design is a pain in the ass for tangs. And the projected sales Drive design decisions.
If the museum collection Sting is any indication, these will sell fast and hold collectible value. It’s not something most people would buy to cut with - maybe a few milk jugs for kicks, and I’m sure it would handle that.
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Post by Lionhardt on Feb 8, 2022 0:04:43 GMT
It is what it is - a carbon blade and a higher level of blade finish with attention to screen accuracy. Collectors will buy it. They’ll undoubtedly sell far more of them at this price point than they would if it cost three times as much with milled fittings and a more creative tang solution. The Anduril design is a pain in the ass for tangs. And the projected sales Drive design decisions. If the museum collection Sting is any indication, these will sell fast and hold collectible value. It’s not something most people would buy to cut with - maybe a few milk jugs for kicks, and I’m sure it would handle that. Well said sir. Well said. Thank you for the wise, well spoken words! |
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Post by roth on Feb 11, 2022 19:32:35 GMT
Thanks for the information. |
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Post by Lionhardt on Feb 14, 2022 3:47:27 GMT
On this....out of those of us that are definitely getting this; I am curious how many people are ordering theirs now? And how many are just waiting for them to actually be available? I know it's not a "limited run", but I just don't want to somehow miss out. I am torn on which is smarter. What's everyone doing? |
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Jash
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Post by Jash on Mar 8, 2022 4:13:05 GMT
I've been wanting this exact sword for almost 15 years (or whenever the initial Museum Collection began). I believe Anduril was going to be the 3rd in the series... until UC went bankrupt. So this sword is HIGH on my list, regardless of it's functionality. That being said - I'm waiting til the first run is in collectors' hands. Being in Canada, after the extra shipping, taxes, customs, and other fees - this sword will be quite a bit more for us. So I need to be sure it'll be to my liking. I think the only thing i'm waitint to see is whether or not they get the hilt parts plated in antiqued silver - to match MC Sting & Glamdring.
If this sword was a Limited Edition (which I believe it should be...), I'd definitely Pre-Order it now. But it'll be made as long as there's interest. With the possibility now of always making a return lol. So, no rush for me.
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Post by Lionhardt on Mar 8, 2022 7:37:47 GMT
Sir Jash, back from the dead! Good to hear from you! I definitely need this still. But I suppose I will wait until it actually comes out then! : )
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Jash
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Post by Jash on Apr 16, 2022 2:10:18 GMT
Sir Jash, back from the dead! Good to hear from you! I definitely need this still. But I suppose I will wait until it actually comes out then! : ) Haha I think with my lack of participation lately, I may have to relinquish the "Sir" title  I just read today that BudK/UC moved up the release date of this sword to June. It was on the website, so who knows how accurate that is. But keep an eye out! |
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Post by yelman on Jun 23, 2022 23:35:55 GMT
How does distal tapering decide whether it's an actual sword? If every single sword used in history made by all cultures around the world all feature distal tapering so the sword can move in certain ways, and you make a sword with 0 distal taper, well it's not a real sword. It can be made of 1045 "high carbon steel", or it can be made of M390 super steel, it's still a lump of steel that's good for maybe hanging on a wall. Now, you are free to debate the degree of distal tapering appropriate for the sword type and purpose. You can also debate the kind of distal tapering, is it a nice linear distal taper, or is it a well tinkered concave distal taper, or is it a lazy "convex" distal taper. But if you make an object with zero distal tapering, it surely isn't a sword. Call it an SLO, call it a wallhanger, call it a machete, call it a kitchen knife (even my kitchen knives are distally tapered), no problem. On the other hand, beauty or aesthetics is a subjective matter. Different people have different tastes, and it is indeed subject to debate. Not functionality though. If you check out many of the online reviews of wallhangers and licensed (or unlicensed) products, all they ever do is fawning over how "beautiful" the "sword"s are, without ever mentioning a word about the statistics, handling characteristics and construction methods. I have no idea what these very vague opinions on some highly subjective matters can be considered actual reviews. On the other hand, I have no problem with United Cutlery's business practice. They have always been very honest, always labeling the licensed products as "decorative pieces for display only", meanwhile seeking community advice on their functional swords. There is absolutely no issue at all selling wallhangers as what they are. In fact, having stainless steel blade is perhaps even more desirable for display items, as they require less maintenance. Incorporating functional characteristics to display pieces isn't practical as they are never meant to be handled in any way, but would increase the cost quite a bit. Now, since they are introducing carbon steel blade versions, I would presume this aims at having more functional versions of these swords they have been licensed to. I recommend taking another look at the designs of these models and introduce sound hilt construction, tang dimensions, distal tapering and harmonic balance to the sword as they would actually make swords functional. Why bother with carbon steel in the first place otherwise? |
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Post by roth on Jun 27, 2022 15:36:06 GMT
On the other hand, I have no problem with United Cutlery's business practice. They have always been very honest, always labeling the licensed products as "decorative pieces for display only", meanwhile seeking community advice on their functional swords. There is absolutely no issue at all selling wallhangers as what they are. In fact, having stainless steel blade is perhaps even more desirable for display items, as they require less maintenance. Incorporating functional characteristics to display pieces isn't practical as they are never meant to be handled in any way, but would increase the cost quite a bit. |
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Post by Lionhardt on Aug 24, 2022 4:32:05 GMT
Ahh, I am getting impatient! I need it NOW!!!! Is it ever going to be time?! ; )
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Post by atsehashke on Oct 27, 2022 0:54:03 GMT
Can someone tell me some reliable sites to buy this Anduril and others LoTR Swords? Finally I will be able to have one, thanks in advance.
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Post by Lionhardt on Oct 27, 2022 4:56:37 GMT
BudK is one of the standards for them. I'm sure others will suggest more.
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Post by roth on Nov 9, 2022 0:40:42 GMT
Has anybody heard about interest in swords from the Amazon Prime LOTR prequel that just finished it's first season? I wonder if anybody is producing replica swords from it yet.
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Post by JubbeiSamuro on Nov 27, 2022 2:40:12 GMT
Have you watched the series friend? It wasn't that great for my taste and their weapon designs aren't that great.
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