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Post by Robert in California on Jul 20, 2020 0:09:00 GMT
Where, if it would make a difference, in a price increase like Huawei has done, would be good if it paid for strict pre-shipment q.c. inspection. With the wonderful/s Chinese govt bosses banning returns even more modifications and repair, doing swords right the first time, is critical. Paying some extra for "always done right" IMO is worthwhile.
BTW, I mentioned the idea of tea staining rayskin so instead of white, a rayskin of "aged" ivory color could be a choice, interested Mr. Yang. He has asked for more info.
If anyone knows how to go about tea staining the raw, white samegawa (samegama? rayskin), do post here or PM me (or tell him). Thanks! I see Sino/Jkoo as a budget sword maker with good potential. Notice the new two tone habaki offerings...
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 20, 2020 18:19:54 GMT
Just checked the website and there are only 5 swords left for sale.
Worst case scenario, I'm getting my money's worth in anticipation/excitement/waiting for a new sword to arrive in the mail. Oftentimes that's the bestest part of buying the sword.
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Post by Dandelion on Jul 20, 2020 20:25:55 GMT
Just checked the website and there are only 5 swords left for sale. Worst case scenario, I'm getting my money's worth in anticipation/excitement/waiting for a new sword to arrive in the mail. Oftentimes that's the bestest part of buying the sword. SO right!
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Post by vidar on Jul 20, 2020 21:28:31 GMT
Just checked the website and there are only 5 swords left for sale. Worst case scenario, I'm getting my money's worth in anticipation/excitement/waiting for a new sword to arrive in the mail. Oftentimes that's the bestest part of buying the sword. Where do you see how many swords are left?
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 20, 2020 21:50:10 GMT
Put 10 swords in your cart: it will only allow you the number remaining for sale. Sneaky way to check the inventory remaining of an item.
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Post by vidar on Jul 20, 2020 22:30:14 GMT
Haha, okay, nice trick. Regarding your earlier post, you are right of course that you shouldn’t expect an art sword for a few hundred euro/dollar. (Or a Mercedes for the price of a Chevrolet) But on the other hand, I would gladly pay more if it would ensure consistency in quality. Chinese forges (all of them) are infamous for shipping all finished products to customers, some really good, others really crappy. I mean I’ve seen post of mid/high end swords where the tsuka ito looked really good when it came out of the box but it became totally loose after doing some cuts. Anyway, for 99$ you can indeed take a risk. I will ask Mr Kane if these swords can be used to cut green bamboo (something that grows in abundance in the park nearby) and if so, I’ll order one as well. It’s the tiger Tsuba that triggered my attention
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 21, 2020 1:21:17 GMT
Well, yes and no. Again, a complex topic that I will try to make as simple as I can.
First off, there is little difference in any of the steel blanks coming out of the forges. What separates them at the final cost is all the finish work: the polishing, hand fitting, etc. You pay more, you get more. With that said, I see no reason why a 1095 DH blade won't be able to cut green bamboo- assuming the heat treating was correct. Forget about the cosmetics- they don't matter in this example.
Second, the JKOO 15th Anniversary blades aren't exactly the common variety $99 swords- they are special give-away priced. Again, my assumption is that they will be assembled better than the normal offerings because of this. In that respect, they are actually more like a $300 or $400 sword. Still not top drawer, but (to use a consistent analogy) rather like buying a Toyota Camry at a Chevrolet price.
As the old saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating". And when we have sword(s) in hand, then we will know from the collective reviews on this forum what's what.
And if you want one, better get one now. Only a few left.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 23, 2020 11:22:29 GMT
SOLD OUT. If you didn't get yours and you wanted one, I'll sell you mine for $1,500.
Ahhhhhgggg....more waiting. Waiting for it to be made, waiting for the shipping notification, waiting on the tracking, watching the tracking every 5 minutes...... eerrrgghhh......
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Post by nddave on Jul 24, 2020 0:55:26 GMT
SOLD OUT. If you didn't get yours and you wanted one, I'll sell you mine for $1,500. Ahhhhhgggg....more waiting. Waiting for it to be made, waiting for the shipping notification, waiting on the tracking, watching the tracking every 5 minutes...... eerrrgghhh...... Speaking of whats the average wait time for these to me made and shipped?
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Post by Robert in California on Jul 24, 2020 2:43:23 GMT
The 15th Anniversary project is Kane Yang's baby. Go to the www.sinosword.com site. Lower left corner of page, one can send a message. That so far, has gotten answered more timely (by Van Yang) that my emails. As for time, Van Yang indicates their orders have picked up and they are fairly busy. I know that in late April, I put in an order for two swords (one a 26.5inch bohi dotanuki and the other a $99 deep discount sanmai with a blade flaw) and still not finished. But I also do not bug them to hurry. My belief is that a forge is more likely to not mess things up if the customer is not breathing down their neck. RinC
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Post by tancred on Jul 24, 2020 5:48:22 GMT
The 15th Anniversary project is Kane Yang's baby. Go to the www.sinosword.com site. Lower left corner of page, one can send a message. That so far, has gotten answered more timely (by Van Yang) that my emails. As for time, Van Yang indicates their orders have picked up and they are fairly busy. I know that in late April, I put in an order for two swords (one a 26.5inch bohi dotanuki and the other a $99 deep discount sanmai with a blade flaw) and still not finished. But I also do not bug them to hurry. My belief is that a forge is more likely to not mess things up if the customer is not breathing down their neck. RinC Exactly. I put in an order the first week of May, I believe. I was told it would be ready to ship some time in July. Haven't heard anything yet, but I can be patient. Don't want to rush things. The waiting is tough, though.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Jul 24, 2020 10:39:26 GMT
Normally I would say about 6 to 8 weeks for an order, but with it being a special event that that is celebrated in August, perhaps the time will be moved forward so we get our swords in hand that month.
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Aug 4, 2020 19:49:49 GMT
Normally I would say about 6 to 8 weeks for an order, but with it being a special event that that is celebrated in August, perhaps the time will be moved forward so we get our swords in hand that month. Posted on their JKOO FB page. Looks like most are ready.
Edit: And they say that DHL shipping is now available again in China and thus worldwide shipping, and not only US, is now possible.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 4, 2020 21:06:31 GMT
Oh my, those hamons!
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Post by paulmuaddib on Aug 4, 2020 21:14:24 GMT
Question. I know it’s considered a fatal flaw when the Harmon extends down to the sharp edge. What about when it extends to the back edge? The forth one from the bottom does that. Nice looking swords. Edit: went back to look and it only extends to the hi. But I would still like an answer to my question. Thanks
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Post by treeslicer on Aug 4, 2020 23:02:22 GMT
Question. I know it’s considered a fatal flaw when the Harmon extends down to the sharp edge. What about when it extends to the back edge? The forth one from the bottom does that. Nice looking swords. Edit: went back to look and it only extends to the hi. But I would still like an answer to my question. Thanks It's a Chinese developed hamon pattern sometimes offered as "hitatsura". Hitatsura can have quench marks appear anywhere on the blade. Japanese examples usually resemble some sort of a random splatter effect. This Chinese technique seems to use a piece of expanded metal pressed into the clay, to get the pattern you see here.
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Post by tancred on Aug 5, 2020 6:09:34 GMT
Yes, some of those hamons are really popping nicely! I didn't get one of these, but I'm still interested to hear how all of these turned out for our good forum members who snagged one.
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Post by vidar on Aug 5, 2020 7:05:36 GMT
Question. I know it’s considered a fatal flaw when the Harmon extends down to the sharp edge. What about when it extends to the back edge? The forth one from the bottom does that. Nice looking swords. Edit: went back to look and it only extends to the hi. But I would still like an answer to my question. Thanks If the hamon goes up to the Shinogi (like #4 and 7), it makes the sword more brittle and less suitable for cutting hard targets or hitting other swords. But I don’t suppose the owners will do any of that so it won’t be a practical problem. It does like nice though from an aesthetic perspective. But for performance and durability, a straight hamon running at 1/3th of the width between the edge and shinogi is best.
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Post by Robert in California on Aug 5, 2020 10:54:18 GMT
6 down from the top has an interesting hamon.
Many years ago, I had a long, slim Akihiro forgery koto nihonto that was hitatsura...nice sword, very pretty blade. Long, slender, light and quick. Sort of a gentleman's sword...certainly no thick, heavy dotanuki type. Sure was eye candy.
Wish I had pics to share.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 5, 2020 11:23:36 GMT
And the an...tic_____ipation increases! One of those bo-hi blades is mine. But which one? I was number 3-5 on the ordering, but I don't know if they are issuing the blades based on that or not. In any event, I will be over the moon to have any of them!
For the hamon, the rule of thumb is 1/3 the width as vidar stated. This allows enough hardness on the edge to be able to repair damages and sharpen the blade several times, while not making it too hard to the point where there is no flex and the blade is brittle. If one of the dragon fire hamons is mine, I certainly won't cut with it, it will take pride of place in my collection. If I get a wave hamon, I may be tempted to cut with it, but probably not. Either way, for $99 I can't complain about any hamon I get.
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