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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 18, 2018 20:24:08 GMT
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Post by strigoil on Sept 18, 2018 20:26:26 GMT
Oh boy you've done it now, all I'm gonna say is don't, DSA have a horrible reputation, for your budget I'd go with valiant armory signature line swords.
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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 18, 2018 20:46:49 GMT
Oh boy you've done it now, all I'm gonna say is don't, DSA have a horrible reputation, for your budget I'd go with valiant armory signature line swords. with all due respect, I'm not buying into all that crap from yrs ago, likely largely made by a few with some kind of axe to grind, and by competitors trying to make themselves look better when in fact they may very well have had crap swords. why is this even still a thing, anyway. DSA has had sufficient time to make any necessary changes, and I'll give them the benefit of doubt. I have their Excalibur and it's a damn fine looking sword and exactly what I was expecting it to be. unless there're dozens, if not hundreds, of failures and pix/vids of such failures, let it lie
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Post by strigoil on Sept 18, 2018 20:53:23 GMT
I didn't intend to start anything, if you know about their rep and still want to go with them I'm not gonna tell you otherwise, i answered under the assumption you didn't.
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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 18, 2018 20:59:18 GMT
I didn't intend to start anything, if you know about their rep and still want to go with them I'm not gonna tell you otherwise, i answered under the assumption you didn't. no worries. there'll be no dungeon for you...., this time
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Post by Eric Bergeron on Sept 18, 2018 22:58:33 GMT
I have a dagger of theirs and I find it was very well made, yes they had some problems in the past, but who hasn't at one point. They seem to want to fix their problems so I say there sword looks really nice and since your a templar, it should find it's home in your hands ;)
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Post by nerdthenord on Sept 18, 2018 23:11:59 GMT
Yes, they absolutely did have junky quality a few years ago. Most serious sword folks swore off them after that so there is no consensus yet if they have turned around but it seems they have.
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Post by pgandy on Sept 18, 2018 23:28:02 GMT
Please give us a review.
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Post by MOK on Sept 18, 2018 23:29:37 GMT
I think DSA's main problem has been their horribly opaque PR, to the point that I still honestly can't tell whether they're just genuinely obtuse or actively lying... so let's not even go there this time!
From all I can tell, their swords are decent, if generally kinda on the bulky and blade-heavy side, though no more so than is common for fantasy and "historically inspired" stuff. Some have been real lemons, but that happens with all manufacturers. I quite like a lot of their designs from afar, but close-up photos tend to reveal all kinds of sloppily executed details that put me off. They're overpriced, IMO - but if they have a design you really like and nobody else does, what else can you do, right?
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Post by elbrittania39 on Sept 19, 2018 1:00:37 GMT
The DSA arguments are so played out by this point. In a nutshell: be it on your head. A lot of people have been burned and the community has very hurt trust with this company. Hopefully you'll be an exception, but that's no reason for us to encourage you if we have reason to believe otherwise.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Sept 19, 2018 1:06:31 GMT
Oh boy you've done it now, all I'm gonna say is don't, DSA have a horrible reputation, for your budget I'd go with valiant armory signature line swords. with all due respect, I'm not buying into all that crap from yrs ago, likely largely made by a few with some kind of axe to grind, and by competitors trying to make themselves look better when in fact they may very well have had crap swords. why is this even still a thing, anyway. DSA has had sufficient time to make any necessary changes, and I'll give them the benefit of doubt. I have their Excalibur and it's a damn fine looking sword and exactly what I was expecting it to be. unless there're dozens, if not hundreds, of failures and pix/vids of such failures, let it lie Also, is the Excalibur good in your hand? Is it structurally sound? Lots of swords are "damn fine looking", but thats pretty subjective and not really a mark of quality. Hell, there are some Deepeeka swords I like aesthetically. As far as dozens and hundreds of videos and pics attesting to DSA shortcomings, there ARE dozens or maybe hundreds of pics and videos showing mistakes and failures which is why a lot of people don't trust them now. Although personally, when I'm looking to buy a sword this expensive, 1 credible bad review is gonna prick up my eyebrows. More than a handful, and I would never buy that sword.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 19, 2018 6:40:45 GMT
VA and Albion, as well as Del Tin make comparable products that are around your budget for the DSA.
I personally won't purchase a sword from them due to their dishonest practices in the past, and the fact that I'm nearly entirely convinced I'm buying a dressed up Windlass in the sense that it's very plausible they get their blades from India. For around 500 dollars I don't want to risk that.
That said, if you know about the risks involved with possibly getting a sword that's going to break than go on ahead, if you want it get it.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 19, 2018 6:53:20 GMT
At the risk of starting up the old debate, I went and tracked down one of my posts containing the shipping ledger. Please note, I'm not at all wanting to or trying to "start anything". I just want the OP to be aware of some of the reasons people don't trust DSA, myself included.
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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 19, 2018 13:16:17 GMT
well, I can give ya'll something, prolly more of an impression and I doubt I'll be able to strip it down, should I get it.-paused for thread- I get why some have, what are concerns regarding DSA, but that doesn't mean all things remain the same and Paul might've cut DSA off long ago. I appreciate what you all have added. after all, what would SBG be otherwise? now, back the the thread and page 4
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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 19, 2018 13:55:15 GMT
found a vid review of it Crusader Sword I kinda question his method of testing. looks like the "targets" are just getting bashed and knocked down, and then there's the rest of it granted it's from 2k12, during DSA's dark age. gonna see if I can find anymore
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Post by Bryan Heff on Sept 19, 2018 14:16:58 GMT
Blade is pretty short. My personal preference for these types of "crusader swords"..types X, Xa, XII etc start at 30 inches minimum.. but thats just me. Hope you like it if you get it.
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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 19, 2018 14:45:57 GMT
Blade is pretty short. My personal preference for these types of "crusader swords"..types X, Xa, XII etc start at 30 inches minimum.. but thats just me. Hope you like it if you get it. so do I . still, with the exchange rate it's something to think about, rather than rush in. and yeah, in the vid it dose look on the short side. we'll see...
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Post by kalkikrosah on Sept 19, 2018 19:54:50 GMT
I always liked the aesthetic look of a lot of their swords. Thomas from Medieval Review had one video about a handle break that was during the time when their quality control was slacking. They made a public announcement that they were actively addressing the problem about a year ago. It's a dice roll right now going with DSA but that's for you to decide on. If you do buy from them just put up a review. The community is curious how they are these days and DSA could use the good press.
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Post by LastTemplar on Sept 19, 2018 21:37:24 GMT
I always liked the aesthetic look of a lot of their swords. Thomas from Medieval Review had one video about a handle break that was during the time when their quality control was slacking. They made a public announcement that they were actively addressing the problem about a year ago. It's a dice roll right now going with DSA but that's for you to decide on. If you do buy from them just put up a review. The community is curious how they are these days and DSA could use the good press. yeah, that was einar(sp), I think. DSA took care of things, tho. from what I understand in a subsequent vid he did, he really likes that particular sword. being "curious" is one thing; being the guinea pig is another lol
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Post by kalkikrosah on Sept 20, 2018 0:25:30 GMT
I always liked the aesthetic look of a lot of their swords. Thomas from Medieval Review had one video about a handle break that was during the time when their quality control was slacking. They made a public announcement that they were actively addressing the problem about a year ago. It's a dice roll right now going with DSA but that's for you to decide on. If you do buy from them just put up a review. The community is curious how they are these days and DSA could use the good press. yeah, that was einar(sp), I think. DSA took care of things, tho. from what I understand in a subsequent vid he did, he really likes that particular sword. being "curious" is one thing; being the guinea pig is another lol Yup that was the Einar and Thomas did give a positive follow up. I really liked the handle work they did on the Einar, It's very eye catching. I do hope they fixed their problem because I might consider buying from them if ever I come into more money.
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