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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:03:01 GMT
Thank you Richard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:05:25 GMT
Finally weighed it. The big custom katana weighs 5.8 pounds. The smaller Ronin Katana Dojo Pro O-katana next to it in the photo weighs 2.8 pounds. Note: If I had another one made, I would keep blade length and profile, but if I wanted to reduce the weight, I would reduce motokasane and sakikasane to normal thickness, use a less heavy tsuba and maybe a bo-hi.
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Post by Ifrit on Jul 23, 2017 3:15:37 GMT
I want one of those so badly
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 8:40:10 GMT
Djin - As you are an award winning sword designer, it would be very interesting to see a katana designed by you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 8:26:37 GMT
Finally shipped sword back for re-polishing (I screwed up the finish on one side trying to remove surface rust). However, there is an issue I feel I should discuss for those considering a sword similar to this. Blade thickness a.k.a. "kasane", specifically, sakikasane (blade thickness toward the tip).
For my specifications, I researched charts with detailed measurements of many different katanas, as well as odachies, nodachies and any long and or large katana blades I could find. I noticed that katana blades generally have less distal taper than other types of swords, with approx. only 1 to 3 mm of taper. It seems in any genre, to keep the weight manageable, the longer and wider blades are thinner than normal sized versions. I also noticed that the longer blades flexed a lot during a cut.
I wanted less flex and more weight than normal, toward the tip, for increased momentum and shearing force during a cut. Compared to my o-katana, I got it. My motokasane (9 mm) and sakikasane (8 mm) are similar to several production katanas. However, when added to the increased length and wide blade profile (haba), the result is a tip that is too heavy to control well.
Van of Sinosword, tried to explain this to me but I wanted a dotanuki (thick) blade all the way. I have discussed this with Van. He said they can increase distal taper and reduce sakikasane. He said he wants to discuss specs. after sword arrives.
So, my blade nagasa is 36 inches long, motohaba is 4.6 cm, sakihaba is 4 cm , motokasane is 9 mm and my sakikasane is 8 mm. Trying to determine modified sakikasane for a less heavy but not too flexible tip. I am thinking 6 mm.
Note: I thought I was about to ship it on this date, therefore I wrote this comment. However, shipping did not occur. Local small post offices will not ship it because it is a sword and must go through customs. Yet, shipping services said, yes the sword can go through customs and be shipped.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 26, 2017 15:28:37 GMT
You want a halbert!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 15:41:52 GMT
You guys are just cruel cruel! Haha! ....eeh. .....wait ....wait.....tataaaa! ....tough and bored crowd today.
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Post by johnwalter on Jul 26, 2017 16:01:59 GMT
Looks cool.I like it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 16:33:02 GMT
Thank you John.
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Post by treeslicer on Jul 27, 2017 2:18:27 GMT
So, my blade nagasa is 36 inches long, motohaba is 4.6 cm, sakihaba is 4 cm , motokasane is 9 mm and my sakikasane is 8 mm. Trying to determine modified sakikasane for a less heavy but not too flexible tip. I am thinking 6 mm. If it wasn't curved and dull on one edge, you'd have a helluva longsword. I've got 29" and 30" tachi that I have difficulty controlling as well as I'd like. A beast like yours would likely spend a lot of time on my wall, unless zombies attack on horseback, of course. Congrats on the new blade, BTW.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 2:48:59 GMT
So, my blade nagasa is 36 inches long, motohaba is 4.6 cm, sakihaba is 4 cm , motokasane is 9 mm and my sakikasane is 8 mm. Trying to determine modified sakikasane for a less heavy but not too flexible tip. I am thinking 6 mm. If it wasn't curved and dull on one edge, you'd have a helluva longsword. Your the first member to make that comment. I was thinking the exact same thing! Haha! Thanks for your comments.
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Post by Mikeeman on Jul 27, 2017 16:50:06 GMT
Finally shipped sword back for re-polishing (I screwed up the finish on one side trying to remove surface rust). However, there is an issue I feel I should discuss for those considering a sword similar to this. Blade thickness a.k.a. "kasane", specifically, sakikasane (blade thickness toward the tip). For my specifications, I researched charts with detailed measurements of many different katanas, as well as odachies, nodachies and any long and or large katana blades I could find. I noticed that katana blades generally have less distal taper than other types of swords, with approx. only 1 to 3 mm of taper. It seems in any genre, to keep the weight manageable, the longer and wider blades are thinner than normal sized versions. I also noticed that the longer blades flexed a lot during a cut. I wanted less flex and more weight than normal, toward the tip, for increased momentum and shearing force during a cut. Compared to my o-katana, I got it. My motokasane (9 mm) and sakikasane (8 mm) are similar to several production katanas. However, when added to the increased length and wide blade profile (haba), the result is a tip that is too heavy to control well. Van of Sinosword, tried to explain this to me but I wanted a dotanuki (thick) blade all the way. I have discussed this with Van. He said they can increase distal taper and reduce sakikasane. He said he wants to discuss specs. after sword arrives. So, my blade nagasa is 36 inches long, motohaba is 4.6 cm, sakihaba is 4 cm , motokasane is 9 mm and my sakikasane is 8 mm. Trying to determine modified sakikasane for a less heavy but not too flexible tip. I am thinking 6 mm. According to most of what I've read and watched about how legit Japanese master smiths craft their blades, you really want about 2/3s taper. For example, if your blade is 6mm thick at the base, you'll want it 4mm thick at the tip. Or, in your case, 9mm at base, and 6mm at the tip. That should lighten your blade considerably.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 17:21:30 GMT
Thank you Mikee, for your confirmation of that measurement. I will get only one redo, with this sword, so that measurement is critical.
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 2, 2017 19:12:26 GMT
Djin - As you are an award winning sword designer, it would be very interesting to see a katana designed by you. Thanks man. I only see myself as a lucky guy, so that's an excellent compliment I would like to see if these guys would add a cross guard. Along with these stats that would be heck of a sword
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 0:10:55 GMT
You can submit a custom design (drawings and or measurements) to Van, and he will email you what they can do and a cost estimate (he may ask for clarification of some aspect of your design). Sinosword has a custom order section, but you can go much further than that i f you wish. It took me over 20 emails to get a design and cost I wanted.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Aug 4, 2017 17:43:38 GMT
I pulled the trigger yesterday on ordering a custom nodachi/odachi from Sinosword/JKOO. I basically tweaked what Blade Runner ordered and made it bigger while redistributing weight. I wanted an overall length of 60 inches, but Van informed me that 58 was as long as they could go without finding a different shipping solution. I went the shirasaya route because I intend to hilt it myself in a European fashion. I just need to find a guard and pommel in the style that I want. I'd love to use The Printed Armoury's Reisläufer complex Swiss guard and twisted pommel, but they are out of stock and supposedly won't be restocked for about a year. If anyone wants to sell me a set please PM me. For anyone interested, here are the details of my blade order. Overall Length: 58 inches Nagasa: 106.5 cm (42 inches) Motohaba: 5.08 cm (2 inches) Sakihaba: 4.0 cm (1.58 inches) Motokasane: 9 mm (0.354 inches) Sakikasane: 6 mm (0.24 inches) Sori: 2.54 cm (1.0 inches) Torii style Tsuka length: 40.5 cm (16.0 inches) Morozori style Nakago: Within 1.27 cm (0.5 inches) of tsuka end Mekugi: 2 pins Blade Style: Kanmuri-otoshi-zukuri (with blade profile change at around 38 cm (15 inches) from kissaki tip. Double, geometric bo-hi The edge should be as sharp as possible with Niku 9260 steel, through hardened blade mirror polish nature wood shirasaya with brown horn fittings
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 17:50:11 GMT
Zen, That will be a beautiful, massive and dangerous blade. Be careful. Look forward to the pics!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 5:10:30 GMT
Zen - see pics of djinnobi's custom guard work
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 24, 2017 16:44:01 GMT
Zen, That will be a beautiful, massive and dangerous blade. Be careful. Look forward to the pics! The blade is finally complete and ready to be shipped to me for the finishing work. Here are a couple images they sent (they forgot to do the perspective shot I asked for, but I will do that once I receive it).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 22:37:02 GMT
Zen - Beautiful blade profile. Love the look of wider katana blades with less profile taper. If your able to do a comparison pic with a standard katana, members will be amazed of it's massive size. For anyone viewing Zen's pics, the blade is no where near normal size!
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