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Post by ramses1079 on Jun 28, 2017 18:36:01 GMT
That is a really good observation Adambomb. Amazing point. Another concept of fantasy I have always enjoyed is based on the way we interpret the past. The way we interpret it may be nothing like how it actually was. But our interpretation is a form of fantasy as well. With this in mind, I always wanted to take a core concept, and based the entire world on how it might have been interpreted. Here is an example: Someone goes back in the past with new technology. They get stranded and use their knowledge to share many advances in technology, wearing a modern day space suit, arriving in a flying time machine. But it is written as a man in bright white clothing comes to their lands on a cloud and uses his powers to make food sprout from the ground and he crafts them magic weapons that could break their primitive wood and stone weapons of the time. The reality? He came in a ship, planted seeds, wore a space suit and took pieces of his ship that he sharpened into crude swords to quickly defend against a rival tribe, the base of his ship being used as an observatory to see the stars for the next conjunction or to watch weather or whatever, but to them, it was a magic cavern which he could use to see the future, We just make it exactly as they interpret it. Doesn't gotta be a time traveler though (Sorry for the double post, I just felt both were worth replying to individually.) Might I point you to this movie? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlander_(film)It's pretty unknown as far as I can tell, but it does most of the things you mentioned save swapping "time traveler" with "spaceman". It focuses more on the aspect of crafting superior weapons than anything due to being inspired by the tale of Beowulf, but it maintains that mystique of the advanced traveler arriving and presenting the natives with superior technology with his identity being misconstrued by their limited knowledge of the world. Also, it's funny as hell that the first spoken word in the movie is the f-word. Interesting you said that, I was about to say "sounds like a bad sci-fi movie I saw while I was drunk watching Mystery Science Theater 3000!!" |
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Post by sevicler on Jun 28, 2017 19:18:14 GMT
If we're going with the 'reset button' to explain different swords in the same time period, what would the 'reset button' be? Natural disaster? An undefeatable creature that rises every set time period? Cosmic alignment that causes mass amnesia? Just my $0.02 In my particular setting, it's actually not far off from the unbeatable creature that rises every set time period; just instead of a singular creature, it's an entire race of chthonian immortals that loathe humanity and enter an very violent breeding period every 250 years ( seriously long story; I came up with the outline of a roughly 40,000 year history for them). That said, I think a setting's particular "reset button" would depend on the mechanics of the world in question and, if you really wanted to go all in with it, have it be a thing that's known of in universe and prepared for. As long as it's fairly consistent, you could have organizations dedicated towards preserving knowledge and then redistributing it following the reset; could even make it a plot point to have said organization go rogue and horde the knowledge, giving it out in drips and drabs because of the power it gives them... Hmm, that makes me want to write a short story about it. For something like mass amnesia, you could have the newer swords be treated like holy relics because nobody knows how they were made, who made them, and their best attempts are extremely inferior. You could have them in museums (if such institutions exist), in royal treasuries, and handed out to chosen heroes as if they were magical implements, but are really just damn good swords. And like that, the legend builds. I actually have a system like that on another of my worlds: world was forcefully reset by a pissed off god, sending civilization from interplanetary space faring to stone age; five millennia later, they're capable of working with steel, but it's in such short supply outside of what's used for anti-dragon defenses that most still use bronze or iron weapons, so the family that has a "long" sword (really a fairly short Viking sword with a 27" blade) from a bygone golden era when steel was a bit more plentiful guards it jealously and passes it down as though it were a crown. Really, the reset button can be whatever an author wants it to be, as long as it's internally consistent. Talking about reset buttons reminds me of Mass Effect. It had a reset button in the form of unbeatable god-machines that descend upon the galaxy every 50000 years, wiping out all advanced lifeforms before returning to the darkness between the galaxies and hibernating. But the core of the Mass Effect stories is about ending the vicious cycle, destroying the reset button so it doesn't happen again. If we're making a story we could write something similar. I'd love to read a story where the reset period was interrupted, giving the protagonists a chance to destroy the cycle. The interruption should probably come from the civilization of the previous reset period, a final gift to the next civilization. |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jun 28, 2017 19:42:12 GMT
In my particular setting, it's actually not far off from the unbeatable creature that rises every set time period; just instead of a singular creature, it's an entire race of chthonian immortals that loathe humanity and enter an very violent breeding period every 250 years ( seriously long story; I came up with the outline of a roughly 40,000 year history for them). That said, I think a setting's particular "reset button" would depend on the mechanics of the world in question and, if you really wanted to go all in with it, have it be a thing that's known of in universe and prepared for. As long as it's fairly consistent, you could have organizations dedicated towards preserving knowledge and then redistributing it following the reset; could even make it a plot point to have said organization go rogue and horde the knowledge, giving it out in drips and drabs because of the power it gives them... Hmm, that makes me want to write a short story about it. For something like mass amnesia, you could have the newer swords be treated like holy relics because nobody knows how they were made, who made them, and their best attempts are extremely inferior. You could have them in museums (if such institutions exist), in royal treasuries, and handed out to chosen heroes as if they were magical implements, but are really just damn good swords. And like that, the legend builds. I actually have a system like that on another of my worlds: world was forcefully reset by a pissed off god, sending civilization from interplanetary space faring to stone age; five millennia later, they're capable of working with steel, but it's in such short supply outside of what's used for anti-dragon defenses that most still use bronze or iron weapons, so the family that has a "long" sword (really a fairly short Viking sword with a 27" blade) from a bygone golden era when steel was a bit more plentiful guards it jealously and passes it down as though it were a crown. Really, the reset button can be whatever an author wants it to be, as long as it's internally consistent. Talking about reset buttons reminds me of Mass Effect. It had a reset button in the form of unbeatable god-machines that descend upon the galaxy every 50000 years, wiping out all advanced lifeforms before returning to the darkness between the galaxies and hibernating. But the core of the Mass Effect stories is about ending the vicious cycle, destroying the reset button so it doesn't happen again. If we're making a story we could write something similar. I'd love to read a story where the reset period was interrupted, giving the protagonists a chance to destroy the cycle. The interruption should probably come from the civilization of the previous reset period, a final gift to the next civilization. In a case like that, you'd need to make the reset button long enough that a sufficiently different civilization could arise from the ashes of the last rather than be a salvaging of the previous one, yet short enough that people actually remember the last with at least some clarity. In Wheel of Time, for instance, enough time has passed between the Second and Third Ages that the cultures are very distinct from one another, but remember the previous age through relics and stories and such, albeit not always correctly, despite the world's geography literally being reshaped during the cataclysm that destroyed civilization. |
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Post by ramses1079 on Jun 29, 2017 2:39:02 GMT
*cough, cough* Fantasy Axe Design Competition *cough, cough* š
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Post by danjabus on Jun 29, 2017 15:25:18 GMT
(Im)Patiently waiting to see what designs make the list. This is going to be interesting..
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Post by sevicler on Jun 29, 2017 17:17:19 GMT
(Im)Patiently waiting to see what designs make the list. This is going to be interesting.. I dont think there is an ETA. Still patiently waiting aswell. Lets hope its on 4th of July or earlier. |
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Post by swordmaster0813 on Jun 29, 2017 18:54:08 GMT
Lol yes next few days in seeing what designs made it would be awesome
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Post by legacyofthesword on Jun 29, 2017 21:29:35 GMT
(Im)Patiently waiting to see what designs make the list. This is going to be interesting.. I dont think there is an ETA. Still patiently waiting aswell. Lets hope its on 4th of July or earlier.Ā I assumed that the winners had been privately messaged... Hopefully that isn't the case, because I didn't get one! |
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Post by Ifrit on Jun 29, 2017 21:37:00 GMT
I dont think there is an ETA. Still patiently waiting aswell. Lets hope its on 4th of July or earlier. I assumed that the winners had been privately messaged... Hopefully that isn't the case, because I didn't get one! Same here man. Crossing my fingers everyday |
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Post by legacyofthesword on Jun 29, 2017 22:06:11 GMT
I assumed that the winners had been privately messaged... Hopefully that isn't the case, because I didn't get one! Same here man. Crossing my fingers everyday I already won a really nice sword in that last Halloween contest, so I figure my luck is run out for a while. I'll be really surprised if I get picked, hehe. |
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Post by Ifrit on Jun 29, 2017 22:39:34 GMT
Same here man. Crossing my fingers everyday I already won a really nice sword in that last Halloween contest, so I figure my luck is run out for a while. I'll be really surprised if I get picked, hehe. I'm doubting I'll be picked, but if I am, it would be the biggest prize I ever won I rarely win anything haha |
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Post by ramses1079 on Jun 29, 2017 22:48:19 GMT
I already won a really nice sword in that last Halloween contest, so I figure my luck is run out for a while. I'll be really surprised if I get picked, hehe. I'm doubting I'll be picked, but if I am, it would be the biggest prize I ever won I rarely win anything haha You live in Canada.....you already win š |
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Post by Ifrit on Jun 29, 2017 22:53:21 GMT
I'm doubting I'll be picked, but if I am, it would be the biggest prize I ever won I rarely win anything haha You live in Canada.....you already win š Except when it comes to buying anything from America haha. I buy a machete, spending 80$, thinking I got some high end machete, then I check a youtube review and get the "It isn't bad for 25$. But there is better". Condor, I am looking at you lol.  |
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Post by ramses1079 on Jun 29, 2017 23:01:48 GMT
You live in Canada.....you already win š Except when it comes to buying anything from America haha. I buy a machete, spending 80$, thinking I got some high end machete, then I check a youtube review and get the "It isn't bad for 25$. But there is better". Condor, I am looking at you lol. Ohhhh don't say that!! I've been dying to buy a GOOD Gladius (one of my bucket list swords) and I saw a "sweet" gladius on Condor's website š Speaking of, I saw a bastard sword (Windlass on Museum Replicas) on Ebay for $99 that M.R was selling for like $280 & I was like š³ |
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Post by Ifrit on Jun 29, 2017 23:08:51 GMT
Except when it comes to buying anything from America haha. I buy a machete, spending 80$, thinking I got some high end machete, then I check a youtube review and get the "It isn't bad for 25$. But there is better". Condor, I am looking at you lol. Ohhhh don't say that!! I've been dying to buy a GOOD Gladius (one of my bucket list swords) and I saw a "sweet" gladius on Condor's website š Speaking of, I saw a bastard sword (Windlass on Museum Replicas) on Ebay for $99 that M.R was selling for like $280 & I was like š³ Condor makes amazing products. It was worth the money by far. But its disheartening seeing a guy on youtube say its okay for a fraction of what I paid haha |
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Post by ramses1079 on Jun 29, 2017 23:48:16 GMT
Eh, live & learn right? I'm soooo OCD that I have to research things 7 or 8 times before I accept the results. In retrospect it's saved me a LOT of headaches, just everyone I talk to thinks I'm cookoo!
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Post by sevicler on Jun 30, 2017 1:26:40 GMT
I dont think there is an ETA. Still patiently waiting aswell. Lets hope its on 4th of July or earlier. I assumed that the winners had been privately messaged... Hopefully that isn't the case, because I didn't get one! I REALLY hope that Paul will announce that he's sent the emails to the winners instead of doing it stealthily  |
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Post by bladerunner2534 on Jul 1, 2017 17:38:41 GMT
I am happy to help out in any way possible--whether that be writing, art, etc. Best of luck to everyone!  |
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Post by ramses1079 on Jul 2, 2017 7:50:21 GMT
Right back atcha Blade! *Cough, Cough* Fantasy Axe Design Competition *Cough, Cough*.....bloody allergies š
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Post by Ifrit on Jul 2, 2017 8:14:57 GMT
After realizing the reality of life, after my debate with Lukas, I second that. We need an axe competition
He made me realize what I want is an axe
Havent returned to that thread as it just became the standard "what production sword is good" like every other thread that starts off interesting
Made me realize I need a good axe tho
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