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Post by pellius on Nov 19, 2020 16:52:15 GMT
Thanks for the heads-up on the Argentines, Pino. For a “commonly available” model, these seem to be getting scarce. And spendy. When I finally found an intact 1898 for sale, I spent what I thought was way too much for it. The “decommissioned” examples are going for nearly as much, now. If my hobby fund weren’t so deep in the red, I’d seriously consider grabbing one of these.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 0:10:43 GMT
Nathan Taylor has a couple of sgian achles up at bargain prices. www.ebay.com/sch/taygrd/m.html?I have a couple of sgian dubh from him that are quite beefy convex grinds (came not quite razor finishes but hard and honed nicely). Buy American Cheers GC
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Post by Lord Newport on Jan 9, 2021 0:26:29 GMT
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Post by illustry on Jan 9, 2021 2:04:18 GMT
That's Matt Jensen's sword, been up for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 4:12:59 GMT
Matt has a lot of swords up on ebay and in the classifieds here.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Jan 21, 2021 18:19:10 GMT
Nice comparison...
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Post by pgandy on Jan 23, 2021 1:00:54 GMT
The M1902 is easier to come by, in fact it is the standard today for officers, than the M1906. I question “WWI and WWII Antique Vintage”. They were used during the border wars with Mexico but were replaced by the M1913 before WWI. Some may have still been in inventory and issued during WWI but I think highly unlikely for WWII. There are both officer’s and trooper’s versions. The M1902 is still the standard today for officers. Over the years there have been minor changes made such as grip material. They have an asymmetrical tip. The one you referenced is the second I’ve seen with a modified tip. I suspect Parke may have prepared that for possible use judging from the tip and the hole at the drag. That was probably intended for a drain hole.
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Post by alientude on Jan 23, 2021 5:01:03 GMT
The one I linked is the M1906.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 6:47:31 GMT
The one I linked is the M1906. That is an m1902. A simple typo. It is a nice example. He may be nodding it to be a Henderson Ames and a horn grip. I think his keyboard is broken and he is pulling our leg. M.C.Lilley and Hederson-Ames in the 1930s becoming Lilley-Ames. So, pre WWII. He may have dated it to 1906, in his infinite wisdom, you could reach out to him.
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Post by alientude on Jan 23, 2021 7:00:50 GMT
Gotcha. Like I said, I know pretty much nothing about sabers. They're pretty far out of my wheelhouse, and while I'd like to own one good, functional antique, I've never had the desire to do much research about them.
Being that you said most of the m1902s are ceremonial, does that mean they're unsafe to be used as an actual sword?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 8:34:32 GMT
Unsafe in what way? They are an actual sword.
May I clarify. The predominate use of the m1902 was ceremonial and at this juncture in time, entirely ceremonial. A badge of rank. Once upon a time, there were some very few carried in the field.
Can you chop a tree down with one? It depends.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 23, 2021 8:52:57 GMT
Ceremonial military sabers' or swords' blades are made of stainless steel, usually too brittle for fighting. Of course real carbon steel sabers or swords can be used as a ceremonial sword. And some stainless ceremonial officers' swords have a good heat treatment and wouldn't break by just swinging them around, but they're not "safe" enough in a blade vs. blade fight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 9:19:50 GMT
Ceremonial military sabers' or swords' blades are made of stainless steel, usually too brittle for fighting. Be that as it may, WKC touts an RC of 48-53 for their forged and heat treated stainless blades. Get over it. For Andi and others curious as I try to bite my tongue. Read, absorb. Repeat. The m1902 specifications continuing to call for plated carbon steel. www.wkc-shop.de/en/ceremonial-swords-accessories-country/usa/us-army-officer-sword-scabbard-sizesThis thread was created for listings. There are various subforums here and a world of information out there for the curious. I have pursued my interests and spent towards any perceived goal. I read stuff like this "I've never had the desire to do much research about them." Then, it seems somewhat expected that some are either looking for quick fast food, or are actually on a way to a different path and actually have an interest. Believe me when I say, searching m1902 will bring up much more than I am likely to type. wtf do I know anyway?
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