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Post by cj7wheeler on Nov 25, 2015 4:27:04 GMT
here is a pic of my para in 9X23. check out the pivot trigger. ever see one of those on a 1911? The trigger pull is just shy of 3 lbs but feels like 14 oz. I can shoot sub 1/10th splits all day.
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Post by ineffableone on Nov 26, 2015 7:00:17 GMT
Not sure why you would want a pivot trigger on a 1911, the original company who made those went out of business because no one wanted them. Even people who hate 1911's will often cite the 1911 trigger as amazing. The single action 1911 trigger is one of the most cited benefits of a 1911, so seems sort of odd you opted to do away with what is commonly considered the best part of a 1911.
And yes I have seen them before, and wondered the above thoughts then as I do now. You can get light trigger pulls with a standard 1911 trigger and with less travel than with a pivot trigger. So I really don't see any advantage unless you just prefer a pivot trigger.
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Post by cj7wheeler on Nov 26, 2015 8:11:35 GMT
Not sure why you would want a pivot trigger on a 1911, the original company who made those went out of business because no one wanted them. Even people who hate 1911's will often cite the 1911 trigger as amazing. The single action 1911 trigger is one of the most cited benefits of a 1911, so seems sort of odd you opted to do away with what is commonly considered the best part of a 1911. And yes I have seen them before, and wondered the above thoughts then as I do now. You can get light trigger pulls with a standard 1911 trigger and with less travel than with a pivot trigger. So I really don't see any advantage unless you just prefer a pivot trigger. there is no take up and no over travel. a standard SA trigger has both. the felt effort of the pull is decreased. with this trigger my split time decreased and I could save a second or more on a stage with 8 targets just with the faster double taps. I would not want one on a stock or carry gun but in competition this is the best trigger I have ever used.
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Post by ineffableone on Nov 26, 2015 15:11:41 GMT
Not sure why you would want a pivot trigger on a 1911, the original company who made those went out of business because no one wanted them. Even people who hate 1911's will often cite the 1911 trigger as amazing. The single action 1911 trigger is one of the most cited benefits of a 1911, so seems sort of odd you opted to do away with what is commonly considered the best part of a 1911. And yes I have seen them before, and wondered the above thoughts then as I do now. You can get light trigger pulls with a standard 1911 trigger and with less travel than with a pivot trigger. So I really don't see any advantage unless you just prefer a pivot trigger. there is no take up and no over travel. a standard SA trigger has both. the felt effort of the pull is decreased. with this trigger my split time decreased and I could save a second or more on a stage with 8 targets just with the faster double taps. I would not want one on a stock or carry gun but in competition this is the best trigger I have ever used. Ah ok thanks that makes some sense, and now that I think about it every single time I have seen a pivot trigger on a 1911 it was a competition gun.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Apr 21, 2016 21:39:29 GMT
A pic of my 1911's... those who know my sword collecting preferences will appreciate this even more.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Apr 22, 2016 0:01:41 GMT
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Post by brotherbanzai on May 16, 2016 12:58:03 GMT
'nother 1911 Remington 1911 R1 enhanced with threaded barrel. Just got it and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. One thing I noticed is that a lot of the Remingtons seem to have lot of wiggle in the trigger, up and down and side to side. Like a looooot of wiggle. Like if I got a second one I could play them like maracas.
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Post by ghost on May 25, 2016 0:27:27 GMT
that's a bummer. The rems have a great look; keeping it and switching out the trigger? Heard the S&W E series has the same issues along with a gritty/not crisp trigger to boot.
Sig 1911s have a bit more slide/frame play than I like, so I guess I'm guilty of being nitpicky. Bought another kimber 10mm a couple months ago. (first one had an extractor problem) Was so happy picking it up at the store, in my mind "heck yea its got an awesome slide to frame fit"- I just figured the slide was super hard to pull back because of the sticky manufacturer gunk. Took her home, cleaned, re-lubed. Meh, its just the finish rubbing together- it'll smooth out. Then the first time shooting her, she started locking open progressively with the slide to the rear. Had to manually slap the slide into battery so I thought it was the mag...finally it completely froze up after 25ish rds at the range (couldn't even take it apart so I thought something had broke internally). Had to slam the back of the slide repeatedly off a 2x4 to get it off. Slide felt tight even with hoppe's oil and I didnt see any burrs or galling (yup tried troubleshooting with gun forums). I finally realized that the powder fouling or slide/rail finishing mixed with the lithium grease had seized it up (I cleaned it up super well too before initially shooting). I went to town cycling the slide over and over at least 1000+ times and switched back to oil. Finally got it to a point where it'd go semi-smoothly with Hoppe's...after two weeks. Working the slide ever day for a few hours, then cleaning and rechecking the fit every few days just sucked. Fingerpads got really tender after a while. I should have used mother's mag or a lapping compound but didn't want to void the warranty if I had to send it back. Haven't been able to jam it ever since even with the intentional limping; for giggles I shot it a couple times sideways. No hiccups since the first time, which is a major relief. It rides like glass now after the work and 250 rds, but it is still kinda hard to take apart after shooting. It would probably seize if I go for 100+ rounds so I'll wait until another few hundred before I'd say it's finally broken in. (i'm using Georgia arms which always shot pretty clean in the g20)
Having to "break in" a 1911 this much was maddening. I've never had a problem with lithium grease (I mean its way lighter than the the airplace grease that some peeps are putting on their guns) plus it still felt like tar was in the rails using oil, prior to all the lapping. Anyways...that was a bizarre learning experience. I think I'll make sure to properly inspect a gun before I take it home. Talk about embarrassing, definitely 1911 amateur hour. I'd be very grateful if you 1911 guys chime in on what to avoid/look for. This is my fourth (won't be my last) and I love it now, but I was going to take it to a gunsmith within that first week if I couldn't smooth it out. Felt like I was whittling away at a log. Gotta order a new recoil spring now...could have been 1k or 5k times cycling that kimber.
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on May 25, 2016 4:56:39 GMT
Always wanted a 10mm, preferably in a 1911 set up. Although there was a Sig 227 in 10mm that tempted me quite a bit a while ago...
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Post by brotherbanzai on May 25, 2016 17:55:32 GMT
Hey Ghost, that's a huge pain in the butt. Certainly a lot of trouble and bother for a new firearm. I'm definitely no 1911 (or gun in general) expert, but I wonder if your experience could have been a case of tolerances stacking up, you know where a few parts that fit together have a tolerance of .005-.008 and they all happen to end up closer to .008. There's a name for that, maybe tolerance stacking or something similar? With the 1911 being designed to be hand assembled by a craftsman rather than mass produced, maybe it's more susceptible to this. I think even if you thoroughly inspect a gun before taking it home, issues can still pop up that you wouldn't have been looking for or that don't reveal themselves until out on the range.
When shooting, the trigger on my R1 feels fine, nice break and reset, but the rattling is just a bit off-putting otherwise. Had time to run just 27 rounds through it the other day; 2 failures to feed, ejecting brass randomly all over the place. Lack of a beveled mag well and no polished feed ramp are a bit of a bummer on an "enhanced model". Not super impressed so far.
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Post by ghost on May 25, 2016 18:01:52 GMT
don't doooooo it...10mm will quickly become your favorite round. I'm increasingly finding it harder to enjoy shooting 45acp when I take both rounds to the range. Shooting hotter 10mm like buffalo bore or hornady xtps is just plain addicting.
bb i've given up on all 1911 factory mags (SA especially) and just immediately buy myself wilson 47ds - that may fix the ftf. sorry to hear these all these problems about the rem. that trigger would drive me nuts. i'm gunshy of 1911s for now because of my spotty 1 and 3 record. (sure it won't last too long) I'll be picking up a usp45 soon (Should definitely not have handled my cousin's). Fit my gorilla hands too perfectly.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jun 19, 2016 18:48:14 GMT
Update on the Remington Enhanced too... I gave it a more thorough cleaning after the first time I shot it and made sure I got all the packing grease out of it. Put another 70 or so rounds through it yesterday and it ran without issue. I suspect the initial failures to feed were operator error in not getting all the grease out of it. Still don't care for the rattly trigger (though it feels fine when shooting) and wish it had a beveled magazine well, but overall I'm happier with it now. We'll eventually see how it does suppressed, which is why I got it in the first place.
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Post by Curtis_Louis on Nov 3, 2016 2:56:41 GMT
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Nov 3, 2016 9:18:12 GMT
Spooky!!!
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Post by jrock on Dec 15, 2016 21:49:23 GMT
Been a fan of 1911s for several years. Finally bought a new one. Attachments:
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Dec 16, 2016 15:48:33 GMT
Heres mine, trying to make it a screen accurate replica of the one Thomas Jane used in The Punisher. MIssing a couple minor details but its coming along nicely. And shes a hell of a good shooter, i was busting bricks at 100 yards off hand
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Dec 16, 2016 18:08:37 GMT
I've considered trying one of those Punisher muzzle comps.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Dec 16, 2016 18:28:40 GMT
makes a 45 feel like a 9mm
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