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Post by libra on Jan 7, 2018 21:20:28 GMT
Hanwei Bastard Sword (antiqued version) :  Total length 1270 mm Tang length 290 mm Tang width at shoulders 23 mm Tang width at end 8 mm Tang thickness 5,5 mm Shoulder width 48mm Pommel was peened, but welded together from two half shells. |
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Post by Uhlan on Jan 8, 2018 5:17:16 GMT
Thank you very much libra and all other members who submitted measurements.
Cheers.
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 23, 2018 7:30:23 GMT
Thanks Markus.
That is an awful lot of holes in the tang.
Are they all there to hold the plastic grip scales in place?
Doesn't this effect tang strength?
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 23, 2018 17:10:35 GMT
When I first looked at it I thought it might be the work of the Giant Chinese Tang Rat.
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Post by Uhlan on Mar 24, 2018 7:37:39 GMT
That looks awful.
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Post by pgandy on Mar 25, 2018 15:05:26 GMT
The result of a less-than-ideal aligned back cut on the tire pell. Doesn't things like that make you hate yourself? |
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Post by christain on Mar 31, 2018 19:01:31 GMT
What a coincidence! I ordered one of those Cold Steel Bowie machetes just yesterday!  |
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Post by cperrin on Apr 13, 2018 22:19:00 GMT
Cold Steel Grosse Messer Pommel: screw type. - 13.185oz Measurements of the tang and blade shoulders - to come. The slot in the guard accommodates the tang only, and the threaded rod needs to be ground flat, or removed to pull the guard completely off.     |
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Post by cearball on Jun 19, 2018 16:27:13 GMT
For posterity. I didn't take the sword apart but found an old jpeg on this forum. Originally from SFI forum. Hanwei Banshee ![]()  |
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 3, 2018 4:39:55 GMT
Thanks cearball.
Interesting construction.
Inletting the threaded section is very much okay, but not welding it all shut but just the underside does not inspire confidence in reliability. Hope it works out for you.
Cheers.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 3, 2018 5:06:16 GMT
Windlass English Cutlass:  |
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Post by christain on Aug 3, 2018 11:55:49 GMT
Nice, Andi! Next time it's up on MRL's DotD, I may just spring for one.  |
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Post by RickDastardly on Aug 3, 2018 13:18:43 GMT
Celtic WebMerchant "Single-handed sword Oakeshott XIV". No manufacturer given.
The sword disassembled with little effort. After unscrewing the pommel and lock nut the grip took a hard pull to remove; it was a very tight fit on the tang. No glue was evident.
Pommel Threaded and screws on, with locking nut and washer before it and recessed inside it. Weight: 253g Diameter: 50mm
Grip Wood, single piece bored for the tang. Leather covered. Weight: 35g Length: 115mm
Guard Weight: 209g Width: 190mm
Tang Full tang, tapers continuously to the die-cut threads. Shoulders are rounded. Length: 156mm Width behind shoulders: 17mm Thickness: 5.5mm
Thread length: 35mm Thread diameter: appears a shade larger than the tang thickness; will measure when I get a caliper next week.
Blade Weight: 664g
Length overall: 868mm Width at shoulders: 53mm
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Post by Uhlan on Aug 3, 2018 13:37:08 GMT
Thanks Andi and Mr. Dastardly ( why I first wrote Bastardly?): Great post! Lots of numbers. I like that.
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Post by MOK on Aug 14, 2018 12:35:59 GMT
I'm putting a new grip on my Hanwei/Tinker 9th Century Viking Sword. Of course, I forgot to take any measurements before I glued the new core together... Sorry! Still, here are a couple of photos of the sword stripped down to bare steel.    As you can see the guard fits very loosely around the tang, with about a millimeter of empty space on the edges and half a millimeter on the flats. The pommel is keyed, and fitted much more tightly; the sides of the cross-shaped opening are filled with what looks like tiny pieces of wood, but that seems to be an entirely cosmetic touch. The pommel feels rock solid and I was unable to move it at all, in any direction, without applying amounts of force that would have bent the tang itself. The tang is ever so slightly thicker than the blade shoulders all the way through, and retains most of its width all the way to the very visible peen, too. The fuller goes under the guard but not quite past it. The shoulders are ample and properly rounded. All in all, the only structural flaw here is the overly loose guard. Originally I had planned to backpeen it, but there's just too much empty space for that. I ended up hammering tiny pieces of impact resistant plastic into the slot to shim it against the edges of the tang (I would've preferred copper sheet but didn't have any at hand), which seems to have done the trick because the sword now rings on impact instead of rattling.  |
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Post by pellius on Sept 20, 2018 17:35:37 GMT
I’m not sure whether this is in the right place or if it is helpful at all, but I figured I would share... TFW’s Facebook page currently shows a few pics of various sword components prior to assembly. It isn’t actual documentation of construction or anything like that. However, you can make out the relative tang dimensions and shoulder geometry on a few of the blades, and maybe a smattering of other pre-assembly details. fwiw m.facebook.com/TFW.Bladed.weapons/ |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 3, 2018 23:37:15 GMT
Sorry, no data as of now. Italian 1860 Cavalry Sabre. A&E H make.   |
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Post by libra on Nov 25, 2018 15:56:05 GMT
This is my latest disassembling:
A single handed sword from Viktor Berbekucz.
total length: 890mm blade length: 700mm tang length: 190mm
tang thickness: 4mm tang width at guard: 33mm tang width at pommel peen: 10,9mm
blade width at guard: 42,3mm blade width 100mm before tip: 23,5mm
blade thickness at guard: 3,4mm (with fuller)
blade thickness 100mm before tip: 3,7mm (without fuller)
blade weight: 540g guard weight: 153g pommel weight: 380g
total weight without wood and leather: 1073g
And a few pictures for you from the disassembling:
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Post by Uhlan on Jan 23, 2019 21:08:23 GMT
Mok, Pellius, Jordan and Libra, thank you very much for your excellent posts.
Much appreciated.
I was a little behind on forum things, but better late than never.
Thanks again.
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Post by Ifrit on Jan 23, 2019 21:32:05 GMT
Man, the more I learn about how swords are used, the more terrifying this thread becomes. How are you supposed to grip a lonsword on the pommel when only a small threaded tang, or worst, welded bolt, holds it in place? Such a thin piece of metal for such dynamic impact?
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