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Post by LastGodslayer on Mar 11, 2013 15:33:25 GMT
This may be one of those unfortunate situations where poor marketing almost destroyed the brand image, whilst the product is actually quite good. But I don't think it is. Even if they had the backing of Ono Yoshimitsu, I still cannot see myself paying so much money for most of Skyjiro's swords. At almost every price point there is another sword I would have. Maybe its just me (I'm gettin old 'n grumpy... :x )
EDIT: I really think its all the flim-flam that annoys me though :lol:
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Post by kingrikoraru on Mar 13, 2013 3:53:43 GMT
So I'm guessing this thread is done ?
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Post by danmasamori on Mar 13, 2013 10:58:32 GMT
Nope not done Guys c'mon now, until we read an actual review on these swords from someone who may or may not work for Skyjiro, please give it a rest. Let's wait until we read an actual review of these swords before we pull out the torches. While I will agree, that their lower end blades are not my cuppa tea, the mid range blades look fairly well done. The geometry is crisp and the fittings have a nice flow. I don't know if David Goldberg (Kinzan), James Williams (Bugei) and Mike Femal (Nihonzashi) would recommend and market these blades on their sites if they didn't think there was something to them. They have all been in business for quite some time and I doubt very much that they would associate their names to an inferior sword. I will add that I own a Goldberg instructor series blade, one of the nicest blades I own, it is in fact made by David and signed. While he does alot of his own work, he does remount and repolish blades from other forges as well, he is not shy about passing along this info, this is explained in the opening paragraph on his site and if you have any questions hr does answer e-mails.
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Post by LastGodslayer on Mar 13, 2013 16:28:28 GMT
You do realize what you just said is something like "despite car brand X making ridiculous claims to their manufacturing process to market their car lineup above market price , they were designed by Pinnifari-something, and I happen to own a car designed by that very same Pinnifari-something guy, a car I happen to really like, so we should give them a chance? We can do that, but in my family, we always bought italian, and every single one of those cars was a lemon. Sure, if we were talking about the actual Ferrar... you know what I'm talking about, that would be something, but a city car? They do look nice, but...
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Post by kingrikoraru on Mar 13, 2013 17:31:00 GMT
I'm going to guess that what you're saying is even if car x is recommended and marketed by brand car y and z, it could still be bad?
Anyway, the thing is that you could also say that this is a bad economy or they just wanted to earn more, and these 3 brands are , you could say, endorse skyjiro because they get part of the sale they made. I mean even KoA is beginning to stock skyjiro kat. You could see that, beside nihonzahi which is more of a retailer for katanas, bugei and gold mountain forge put out 1-2k+ swords and during this time, those are not going to sell well, so they adopt a lower priced brand to make a lil on the side. That's what I think.
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Post by LastGodslayer on Mar 13, 2013 19:24:27 GMT
Ding ding ding! Which leads me back to my previous statement; Times are tough. They're also tough on me!
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Post by Vue on Mar 13, 2013 20:55:53 GMT
Yep it's all down to business folks, don't forget these guys needs to earn a living just like the rest of us. I don't blame them for selling Skyjiro at all, I imagine Skyjiro is offering these to the re-sellers at very low costs and so it is easier to make a profit. I would say they make more profit on top of Skyjiro swords, well much more then from massive brands such as Hanwei anyway.
Dan - I have my torch ready now and am just waiting for the review :twisted: :lol:
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Post by danmasamori on Mar 14, 2013 0:45:10 GMT
Well, lets wait for a review then, remember I said they "look" fairly well done, I am not here to endorse them or anything, I'd just like to see an actual review before a noose is tied around their neck. I do agree that if ithe OP was indeed Skyjiro, it's in pretty poor taste. LastGodSlayer, I don't really see much on their site about their swords that is all that out there to be honest, other then the "SkyJiro Forge's Special Proprietary Hamon (SF's Secret Ancient Hardening Method)" bit which is most likely sales speak for "Clay tempered, but somehow more special then other swords so please buy it". They aren't claiming their swords can cut through steel barrels. I know times are tough guys, but regardless, I would really hope these particular retailers wouldn't put their names on the line like that for an inferior line of swords. I am sure there are alot of other forges out there that would've loved to have the endorsements of James Williams, David Goldberg & Mike & Sherry Femal for their swords, so I'd LIKE to believe that they have actually tested and approved them as decent quality blades, instead of seeing dollar signs and simply handing their names over. But again, we will have to wait until an unbiased review is done before we can make any further assumptions, right?
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Post by kingrikoraru on Mar 14, 2013 1:14:56 GMT
Actually, in their history of advertisement on here, if the OP was skyjiro, this is technically a improvement. If this was in poor taste then the others must be.....welll.... Besides that, the other assumptions come from their inconsistencies on product description and price on their site
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Post by danmasamori on Mar 14, 2013 10:33:42 GMT
Yeah, I see what you mean. I happened to catch a glimpse of previous similar Skyjiro threads here by googling their name (go figure ), if the OP'S are from Skyjiro, they really need to quit playing these stupid games, it's definitely not helping their image.
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Post by kingrikoraru on Mar 15, 2013 2:23:46 GMT
Really though, their poor opinion around here stemmed from those 2 threads. It's just....I get using multiple account to advertise but after using names like Stalin and what not....it just gets to the point of really poor taste. They could have good swords, but between these advertisements and product info (which frankly sounded like they're throwing out key words that attract buyers) I'm not going to be buying from them, not unless their blades are proven by multiple people and we get some sort of "sorry" from them. Look at other ebay forge that's reputable around here; they have good blades and so far no bs, at least not that I know of. If skyjiro is really that great, they wouldn't have to resort to these kind of advertisement to be honest.
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Post by Judosailor on Mar 15, 2013 12:09:02 GMT
So, FYI, I am taking the plunge. I am ordering one of their entry level swords, The Samurai, today. Will post in New Acquisitions when it arrives, and have a review up after I have had a chance to handle and cut with it.
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Post by SwordFan on Mar 15, 2013 12:52:28 GMT
My Package cleared customs today so I should have the Emperor Katana in hand either next week Monday or Tuesday and ill then get up a bit of a review .
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Post by IndigoSamuraiGirl on Mar 16, 2013 17:22:40 GMT
Good Afternoon Everyone! Happy Saint Patty's Day!! :mrgreen: So I'm replying/responding to the IMMENSE feedback I received from my post about the sword I just purchased from SkyJiro, as I was NOT expecting such a critical response from everyone, to say the least. As i said before, I have a Paul Chen sword, which I'm not too much a fan of, but that was my first sword, so it is what it is...a friend of mine has a Thaitsuki which I've been looking into purchasing b/c, just as I'm extremely satisfied with my SkyJiro sword, the Thaitsuki has a similar quality & feel that I'm really impressed with. Again, I'm new to forums, so I apologize if my etiquette was not up to par, however, I'm NOT going to apologize for my COLORFUL WAYS because I'm an EXTREMELY colorful person Have a wonderful weekend everyone!!!!
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Post by stickem on Mar 16, 2013 18:52:12 GMT
So my suggestion is if you are looking for IMMENSE feedback, as it seems you are, then in addition to mentioning SkyJiro and Thaitsuki in your thread, you should also talk about Ryansword. That way you'll have the attention trifecta!!! Personally, I find these conversations about the most controversial sword makers we can think of a bit redundant, so I'll leave it to the rest of y'all to sort through the troll detritus and find those hidden gems!!! Good luck with this one, moderators Which is to say, I'm done with this thread as it is interrupting my sleep apnea, but I am glad my Lucky Charms first impression goes with your current leprechaun theme of St. Patrick's day!!! Carry on with the regularly scheduled program...
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Post by johnwalter on Mar 17, 2013 13:09:08 GMT
IndigoSamuraiGirl-If your posts are legit,then im sorry for the welcome you recieved.So welcome to the forum.However please understand if you are truly a satisfied customer of Skyjiro,you are the first we have ever heard from,Im even more skeptical of your Thaitsuki comments,as they are both very well known for being overpriced(ridiculously in the case of Thaitsuki)crap.And to say that Skyjiro is on par quality wise with Thaisuki is,well,pretty funny.It really doesnt speak well of your Skyjiro sword.You see, sub $100 Musashis are thought more highly of than Thaitsuki .If you think so highly of these swords,Im very curious which Hanwei sword you own that you dont like?Because I would take the cheapest Hanwei practical special over anything Ive seen from Skyjiro and Thaitsuki.On the other hand,the forums are fool of people who praise certain swords when they have very little experience with a variety of quality,some learn,some do not. So if you are a customer,maybe you will learn better.If you arent,buy some quality swords,like ,mid-higher level Hanwei,and Dynasty Forge.Learn what your competition is making and strive to make a better product than you currently are and develop better business ethics,apologize for trying to decieve people here.Or at least hype your product by comparing it to a good sword,not Thaitsuki.
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Post by chuckinohio on Mar 17, 2013 16:03:42 GMT
It's great to hear that you are totally pleased with your purchase.
Please continue your involvement here on the forum and keep us updated as to how your Skyjiro sword stands up over time.
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Post by LastGodslayer on Mar 17, 2013 17:01:27 GMT
Would you be willing to review the sword for us? Even if you are not sure on what to write just gives us your impressions on it and a ton of pictures . Also please understand that any ill feelings are directed mostly at Skyjiro and not you, because they have tried to play us in the past and that was really annoying to say the least. Your colorful personality, as long as it isn't a gimmick, is actually quite welcome.
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Post by SwordFan on Mar 18, 2013 11:16:37 GMT
Well my box was just delivered to me ,iv literally just unpacked it and did a quick check for damages as the box was a bit beat up . Ill try get up some pics and some thoughts once I get home a litte later and then a review later on in the week .
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Post by kingrikoraru on Mar 18, 2013 17:50:58 GMT
^ This. I was just about to say a recent owner of a thaisuki had his sword snapped clean with what is supposed to be a simple cut. And I've never heard of someone preferring a skyjiro sword over a hanwei sword
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