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Post by slav on Nov 27, 2009 9:12:39 GMT
Looks like the sword is back up on eBay. Very accurate and reasonable description, and a much lower starting price. I think our friend has come to terms with what is going on and has altered his listing accordingly. This is a respectable move, and I'll be interested to see what happens in the auction.
Everyone needs time to cool off, and I'm glad that we were able to refrain from needlessly fueling a useless fire.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 27, 2009 14:07:42 GMT
Karmas out for Jak and George, thank you gentlemen for man-ing up and doing a good thing. this is exactly the attitude I expect from SBG folks and the reason I love this place so much.
glad to hear that about the auction Slavia. he told me at one point he has sold several blades all from $50-100 which is reasonable. hopefully this is much more indicatve of who he is. I'd like to think so. I'll believe the good option until proven wrong.
EDIT - I just read the auction and I have to say that is an excellent and honest description anyone who give this man flak over this sword now is just being an ass.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 16:13:48 GMT
Good for him; I'm happy for him and I hope he joins. I checked out the new auction- had it started like this, I would've given it the once-over more thoroughly as I can't help myself when it comes to swords.
Seems he changed the pommel too...so he took to heart the bit about the hole being off-centered, that's good stuff right there. I wish him the best; but I still think he was out to rob folks of their hard earned money....$10K then $2k?
I'm glad he listened to your reason, Tom- even though he called you a ho (which may or may not be a lie, you ARE military, are you not, Tom? lol) you still kept your noodle and didn't go Rambo on the guy.
FTR, I would've been fine either way; I'm a huge fan of calling a spade a spade and I like confrontation so face-to-face is doable for me; like Sean, I don't say anything I wouldn't be willing or able to say to a person personally. Naturally, that sort of thing is much easier with a stranger for whom you care not how they feel as opposed to someone you know and respect. At least, that's been my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 19:10:45 GMT
Most excellent change on his part and far more reasonable I probably would have even had a higher starting point than that if it was my sword I still don't retract my statement about the tanks tho I'm quite confident in its tank cutting abilities
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 20:33:53 GMT
I am glad he is seeing reason, now hopefully he will join up here and be a part of our family, my comments will stand as part of the history, which shouldn't be erased, as they reflect what started this thread, that way people who read this will understand what went on, and learn from it, Other wise every one would try and sell what ever. Just my opinion of course....SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 23:26:42 GMT
Ummmmm...maybe I am missing something here and someone will be kind enough to enlighten me. An individual placed a homemade sword for auction at a price that is insulting to many sensibilities and now that he has lowered the price from insulting to out of the question he is being praised and asked to join a forum where he will surely gain some small amount of legitimacy, particular with those who are just beginning in this hobby.
It would seem to me that this thread has become more of a circle jerk with everyone patting themselves on the back for being so forgiving and understanding that the original issue has been forgotten. Is no one interested in determining his true intentions before extending the olive branch and paying him any more time of day than your average scam artist?
Perhaps I am way off base here and there are those of you out there that believe the crowbar listed is worth 2k. If so, please make yourselves known because I am interested in seeing things from your perspective....honestly I am.
Now don't get me wrong, I am all for giving people the benifit of the doubt when there is clear cause. In this case however, with the sword business having grown to the extent it has in such a short time, and with companies like albion and makers like Trim out there I find it highly improbable that any smith could honestly believe that the level of work displayed is worth anywhere near 2k.
Of course this may all be a big misunderstanding because he mistakenly added a zero to the price and his true intention was 200. I suppose thats possible.......
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 27, 2009 23:36:09 GMT
Ummmmm...maybe I am missing something here and someone will be kind enough to enlighten me. An individual placed a homemade sword for auction at a price that is insulting to many sensibilities and now that he has lowered the price from insulting to out of the question he is being praised and asked to join a forum where he will surely gain some small amount of legitimacy, particular with those who are just beginning in this hobby. It would seem to me that this thread has become more of a circle jerk with everyone patting themselves on the back for being so forgiving and understanding that the original issue has been forgotten. Is no one interested in determining his true intentions before extending the olive branch and paying him any more time of day than your average scam artist? Perhaps I am way off base here and there are those of you out there that believe the crowbar listed is worth 2k. If so, please make yourselves known because I am interested in seeing things from your perspective....honestly I am. Now don't get me wrong, I am all for giving people the benifit of the doubt when there is clear cause. In this case however, with the sword business having grown to the extent it has in such a short time, and with companies like albion and makers like Trim out there I find it highly improbable that any smith could honestly believe that the level of work displayed is worth anywhere near 2k. Of course this may all be a big misunderstanding because he mistakenly added a zero to the price and his true intention was 200. I suppose thats possible....... He relisted it with a starting price of $19.99... THATS what people are talking about when they say he seems to have gotten a lot more reasonable. The 10k and 2k were flat out silly for this sword... and now, allthough I have no interest in it, $19.99 seems like a steal for someone who might wanna bash the heck outa things with a sword shaped object. The hope is he has learned from his mistakes and is showing that in his new listing... tho I am less likely to belive her has really 'changed his spots' it is a step in the right direction.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 23:40:02 GMT
well, it was more like someone putting an outrageously poorly made sword for sale for $2,000 and then insulting every other sword in existence and then telling people in the forum they were jerks for stating the obvious about that being an outrageous price, but you are welcome to look at it from the angle that he was righteous and we were jerks
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Post by slav on Nov 27, 2009 23:50:37 GMT
I think it's a matter of everybody putting on a little show of praise for somebody coming to their sensibilities in order to let this story die with a happy ending; rather than continuing to shun and ridicule a rogue, causing them to stray even further from the path in bitterness and/or vengeance. A little superficial, sure, but not a bad move as long as the complete story is known.
Let's not drag it on any further, though. The sword--which was the original subject of this thread--is back up at a reasonable price. Anyone interested can check out this thread and decide for themselves whether they want to deal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 23:53:40 GMT
I think it's a matter of everybody putting on a little show of praise for somebody coming to their sensibilities in order to let this story die with a happy ending; rather than continuing to shun and ridicule a rogue, causing them to stray even further from the path in bitterness and/or vengeance. A little superficial, sure, but not a bad move. Let's not drag it on any further, though. The sword--which was the original subject of this thread--is back up at a reasonable price. Anyone interested can check out this thread and decide for themselves whether they want to deal. I can't argue with that Slav...well said. Although I think "coming to their sensibilities" is a nice way of saying being publicly bustedNight all ;D
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Post by slav on Nov 27, 2009 23:55:02 GMT
THREAD LOCKED, because it has served its purpose. A noble one, at that. Thanks.
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