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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 18:10:33 GMT
If you ever are back in the area let me know. We must toss a few back together and do some cutting!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 18:21:51 GMT
I was a day away from taking you up on that offer tom
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 18:49:28 GMT
Chris, no doubt man, no doubt. I'll keep you posted...two pastimes I love.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 1:29:36 GMT
If Hanwei would fix the chape of the scabbard and sharpen the sword just a little bit more I am pretty sure that it would be as good as the VA 304S.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 3:51:26 GMT
Following that review I'm REALLY looking forward to getting this blade.
I joined the forum only a couple of weeks ago with the intention of purchasing a blade and I got a lot of great feedback and info which enabled me to make a decision within a week or so of joining. You all were a tremendous help in the decision.
On top of that, my timing was fortuitous enough to be able to take advantage of Tom's sharpening offer, and it really looks like it worked out well for everyone with that review.
So big props to Tom for everything he's done on this project. In trading pm's over the past several days he was honest in his critiques, sometimes making reference to things I didn't even know about or would never have noticed. Those comments alone made it worthwhile having the blade sent to him first for review. I'm looking forward to seeing what he was able to do with the blade. As Tom described it to me it's faster than a clawed cat on carpet (and there's nothing faster than that, apparently)! He was able to do something with it that I wouldn't be able to.
So it won't be long before it's in my hands and after I get a chance to look at it and attempt to cut a few plastic bottles in half I'll make another post.
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Post by shadowhowler on Sept 18, 2009 4:00:17 GMT
Following that review I'm REALLY looking forward to getting this blade. I joined the forum only a couple of weeks ago with the intention of purchasing a blade and I got a lot of great feedback and info which enabled me to make a decision within a week or so of joining. You all were a tremendous help in the decision. On top of that, my timing was fortuitous enough to be able to take advantage of Tom's sharpening offer, and it really looks like it worked out well for everyone with that review. So big props to Tom for everything he's done on this project. In trading pm's over the past several days he was honest in his critiques, sometimes making reference to things I didn't even know about or would never have noticed. Those comments alone made it worthwhile having the blade sent to him first for review. I'm looking forward to seeing what he was able to do with the blade. As Tom described it to me it's faster than a clawed cat on carpet (and there's nothing faster than that, apparently)! He was able to do something with it that I wouldn't be able to. So it won't be long before it's in my hands and after I get a chance to look at it and attempt to cut a few plastic bottles in half I'll make another post. Yeah... Tom is a great guy... and he really stepped up to help out the forum and anyone who wanted to get one of these swords but was worried about the edge. Major props to Tom. I look forward to seeing what you think of it when it gets to you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 5:56:34 GMT
Damn, these Tinker swords have such NICE blades. Too bad the hilts are so....meh. ('cept the viking sword). And too bad about the edges and scabbard.
But that is one HELLuva blade. Great review, Tom!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 6:23:03 GMT
I think that most of the issue people have with what they deem as "blunt swords" is that they don't know how to align the cutting edge to the target properly or the body mechanics required to make clean effortless cuts. Even with a double bevelled sword lovely clean cuts can be made (i prefer an appleseed or hollow ground profile mysely). I think that many backyard cutters compensate for a lack of knowledge by having their swords sharpened to a ridiculous degree. Good review tom, was I the only one who giggled hysterically (not quite but it was funny) when you drew that sword with a ringing schwingggg! I thought at first that you were being funny and had dubbed the sound in.
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Post by shadowhowler on Sept 18, 2009 7:34:46 GMT
I think that most of the issue people have with what they deem as "blunt swords" is that they don't know how to align the cutting edge to the target properly or the body mechanics required to make clean effortless cuts. Even with a double bevelled sword lovely clean cuts can be made (i prefer an appleseed or hollow ground profile mysely). I think that many backyard cutters compensate for a lack of knowledge by having their swords sharpened to a ridiculous degree. Good review tom, was I the only one who giggled hysterically (not quite but it was funny) when you drew that sword with a ringing schwingggg! I thought at first that you were being funny and had dubbed the sound in. Maybe... but case in point we have Tom... who has a very good understand of the mechanics of euro swords, edge alingment, and how to cut... and he often is disapointed with the factory edges of swords 'out of the box' and puts a lot of effort into make his blades, what you would call, "sharpened to a ridiculous degree". Is he compensating for a lack of understanding? Or is he, like me any many others, sick of dull swords? Food for thought.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 7:41:41 GMT
Do you honestly think Tom was who bloodwraith had in mind when he said 'many'?
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Post by shadowhowler on Sept 18, 2009 7:46:21 GMT
Do you honestly think Tom was who bloodwraith had in mind when he said 'many'? Not sure who he has in mind... but Tom is one of the biggest voices we have talking about swords not being sharp enough from the manufacturers... and he is also one of the biggest proponents of REALLY sharp swords, appleseed edges vs secondary bevels, and one of few people who sharpens almost every sword he gets because they are almost never sharp enough for him. So, 'Wraith's comments could be seen as directed at Tom, and others like him, who prefer their blades very, VERY sharp. So, to answer your question... I don't know, but the inferance is there for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 8:21:09 GMT
Awesome, Tom Waits and swordplay. The best 2 things in my life. Wait, I forgot about my wife and son... just kidding. Great review +1 for being a Raindog.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Sept 18, 2009 10:48:57 GMT
Even with a rediculously sharp sword if your alignment is off it will show. yeah you might still get through the target but the cut will be crooked and snarly and/or the target will go flying off to be hunted down. it's true I make plenty of cuts that could have better alignment, but I know it before the target ever hits the ground. I don't think that many people compansate by having rediculously sharp swords, some sure, but not that many.
on sharpness yeah I like my swords sharp, scary sharp, but if every sword came sharpened to the Valiant Armory Practical sword standard I probably never would have learned to sharpen swords any more than needed for the occasional touch up and you all wouldn't have me here yelling about poor edges. I give Valiant Armory huge props because they get it right.
a sword doesn't always have to have a rolled or apple-seed shaped edge, it has to have the edge that is appropriate for it's geometry. when I sharpened this sword for Kokoro I tried real hard to get the edges flat because it is a flattened diamond shaped blade (above the fuller) but I did let a little roll happen simply because with the secondary already there it was easier and I didn't want to remove any more steel than needed and because this sword was hard enough I was tearing through belts as it was, and lastly because an appleseed edge is stronger than a flat edge by a large amount even if it's just a slight roll. so anyway, yeah this one is sorta appleseed but it's a very skinny apple seed and considering that the blade was fullered to improve cutting ability I felt it apropriate to give it a little appleseed roll.
Thanks Hankforker, Tom waits is that one musician that I know I can count on when all my other music is sounding stale and dead. his stuff is just so different it always refreshes me when I'm in a funk. not to mention he's a cool actor too (I loved him as Renfield).
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 18, 2009 20:01:10 GMT
Thanks for the review, Tom. These do appear to be a good line of swords, still these little inconsistancies put me off a bit.
Do sharp swords cut better than dull ones? Sure, that's why we call them swords and not clubs.
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Post by Avery on Sept 18, 2009 20:16:38 GMT
A very nice review, I was looking forward to this and wasn't disapointed. Liked the fact you had Waits as your sound track too.
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Post by shadowhowler on Sept 18, 2009 21:14:30 GMT
Do sharp swords cut better than dull ones? Sure, that's why we call them swords and not clubs. Ah... the famous dry wit of Ric Willy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 23:09:58 GMT
So the sword arrived at my door today and this thing is the highlight of my week. So most of what I've done so far is take it out of the box and admire it. It's my first sword purchase and I'm new to all this, so I may be over-excited. So the edge really is sharp, as Tom said he would make it, and I'm really looking forward to trying it out this weekend. Okay, it took all of about an hour before before I said screw it. I grabbed the sword, filled a 2 litre up with water, grabbed a trash can and turned it over. This thing can cut! First time I'm using a sword to cut through something and I couldn't even feel it as it went through the plastic. This sword.... ;D I'll have more to post in the days to come.
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Post by shadowhowler on Sept 19, 2009 4:21:39 GMT
So the sword arrived at my door today and this thing is the highlight of my week. So most of what I've done so far is take it out of the box and admire it. It's my first sword purchase and I'm new to all this, so I may be over-excited. So the edge really is sharp, as Tom said he would make it, and I'm really looking forward to trying it out this weekend. Okay, it took all of about an hour before before I said screw it. I grabbed the sword, filled a 2 litre up with water, grabbed a trash can and turned it over. This thing can cut! First time I'm using a sword to cut through something and I couldn't even feel it as it went through the plastic. This sword.... ;D I'll have more to post in the days to come. +1 for your first cut! (Your first karma too, you'll always remember your first. Heh. ) Welcome to the addiction!
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Post by musicalpoo on Sept 19, 2009 19:31:14 GMT
"gasp" I like this sword, it says Schwing
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Sept 19, 2009 21:03:26 GMT
Great review, Tom! ;D And +1 to you for both the review and the offer that Kokoro accepted. I'm glad you like your new sword, Kokoro. Now you and tom are making ME want one. ;D Have fun with the cutting, but always remember to take safety precautions. It's not hard to seriously injure yourself with a 'Tom-Sharp' blade. "gasp" I like this sword, it says Schwing Hey Musical? The biggest PROBLEM with this sword was that it said 'schwing'. Just FYI. ;D -Slayer
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