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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 10, 2009 1:25:29 GMT
I agree. I want one... However I think it will be huge and heavy enough as is, looking most like the sword in the movie... the giant elongated one YOU wanna do Brenno, I don't even know if I could lift that. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 5:32:39 GMT
Oh man the more I see this develop the more I really want one ;D but like shadowhowler said "the giant elongated one YOU wanna do Brenno, I don't even know if I could lift that" but it would still be cool to have and give it a try ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 8:09:15 GMT
Yeah the raven swords pale in comparison. One reason I posted them was I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have gotten a licence to make and sell only a few swords.
The more I look it just seems that people are re-naming a replica item and getting away with it. I'm finding it extremely hard to find a solid answer.
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Post by kidcasanova on Jul 10, 2009 8:19:35 GMT
Haven;t chimed in in awhile, but I needed to add....BB, these are awesome pieces you've made. I greatly look forward to seeing both yours and Brendan's final swords.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 8:21:14 GMT
Screw figuring out sword dynamics, I'm too busy drooling over sword-in-progress porn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 22:29:44 GMT
Screw figuring out sword dynamics, I'm too busy drooling over sword-in-progress porn. ;D ;D ....... yep just like the rest of us
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jul 10, 2009 22:38:46 GMT
Thanks Ebon Hey Brendan, I actually kind of liked the first pic you showed of the blade pretty much the same but longer. As for it being too big to lift, well even the shorter one is going to be pretty unwieldy so why not make it even bigger? It is a fantasy sword after all. I'm trying to get mine closer to usable but I don't expect I'll be able to get under six pounds, still pretty unwieldy. Hey mrfat, I'm having trouble finding any kind of solid answer too. I haven't heard anything back from Universal yet, been a little over a week. Thanks kidcasanova I'm looking forward to getting them done too. It's a lot of fun to work on. Ha, thanks LPBoyle Hey Shadow and Stone, glad you like the progress so far ;D. I think Brenno's long design will probably end up about the same weight as the sword from the movie, so although it's gonna be heavy, I don't think it'll be insanely so.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 10, 2009 23:08:01 GMT
I think Brenno's long design will probably end up about the same weight as the sword from the movie, so although it's gonna be heavy, I don't think it'll be insanely so. Maybe not... if your Arnold... or Brenno! ;D
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jul 15, 2009 19:30:49 GMT
After finishing the half cross in clay, I made a one sided mold of that half with the ricasso blank in place. When the mold was finished and cured I removed the clay cross and steel blank. Then I put the ricasso blank back in the mold and poured a wax. I then removed that from the mold, popped the blank off the wax half-cross and put the blank back in the empty mold again. Then poured a second wax half-cross. Now I had two wax halves that fit around the metal ricasso blank. The next step was to clean the two waxes up and attach them together around the blank. Then the re-sculpting begins. Since the two halves of the cross are actually the same side twice, they don't actually line up perfectly. This is especially noticeable in the creature heads. There were quite a few hours of touch up work to get everything matched up but still a lot less work than sculpting both sides from scratch. Here is the finished wax sculpture of the cross with the ricasso blank inside. At this point it's ready to be prepped for molding. This mold will be two sided and will be molded around the ricasso blank too. In that way, when I pour a wax with this new mold, the blank can already be sitting in the mold. Then when I pull the wax out of the mold, it will be around the blank. When I pull the blank out, I'll have a void in the wax the correct shape to fit the full sized blade ;D
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Post by enkidu on Jul 15, 2009 19:54:06 GMT
Amazing talent BB, simply amazing, keep it up !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 22:22:58 GMT
sword porn lol the work here is oustanding and I have my fingers crossed that no legal issues come up so that they can be sold. Anyway roll on I want to see more ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 0:51:29 GMT
Geez, with the quality of work I've seen coming from you and Brendan, you guys could make your own sword empire should you two decide to make a business together. Seriously amazing stuff, keep it up!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 1:02:28 GMT
I wish I lived closer to you BB, I'd love some instruction in casting and sculpting. I used to do a bit for my warhammer stuff, but nothing on the scale or intricacy of what you are doing. How much would you charge to sculpt and cast something like that?
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jul 16, 2009 1:22:09 GMT
I wish I lived closer to you BB, I'd love some instruction in casting and sculpting. I used to do a bit for my warhammer stuff, but nothing on the scale or intricacy of what you are doing. How much would you charge to sculpt and cast something like that? Me too. We've been discussing it via email, but it;s a bit overwhelming. I gotta start some greensand casting.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jul 16, 2009 19:10:42 GMT
Thanks Enkidu I'm a workin stonehart, just went back to do the rough grinding on the blade. I'll get a picture up later. Cross your toes too just in case Thanks Simon ;D Yeah, it's a shame Brendan and I are on opposite sides of the planet. But thanks to the internet and SBG we can still work together. Hey wraith, have you checked to see if there are any art foundries near you? Also some art schools give classes on the subject, at least here in the States. Cost-wise, you're actually looking at three different costs to make a piece. The cost to sculpt the original, make the mold, and cast and finish the bronze. You can sculpt directly in wax and eliminate the mold cost for a one-of-a-kind piece but that's very risky since the wax is lost during the process and if anything goes wrong you have to start from scratch. These particular pieces, if I were able to sell them, would be in the $700-$800 range, which is actually on the cheap side for something this complicated, since I'm not paying myself for all the time involved in the original sculpting. Yeah Brendan get going with that The best way to get started is to do your own sculpting and then send it out to a foundry to be molded and cast. The next step would be to learn how to make molds and then send that to a foundry to have them pour a wax and cast it. Then learn how to do wax work and send the foundry finished waxes to cast. At each step you learn more and your cost becomes lower.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 16:55:35 GMT
Geez, when you look at those raven pieces you can see just how far and away BBs skills are. Maybe because it's a passion and a pleasure for him, he spends the time on his work. It's just so much better envisaged and detailed. I've never seen fittings with that much attention to detail before; he's definitely gifted in this arena.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jul 17, 2009 22:52:38 GMT
Thanks Ebon, that's very kind of you to say I got some work done on the blade the other day. It's sooo much faster to grind out a blade than it is to sculpt the hilt parts. But it's also not nearly as enjoyable as sculpting, kind of tedious actually. Here's a couple pics. It's warped, why do I always get a warped one?!- Mel Brooks The steel from Admiral always gets here with a slight bow to it, so it needs to be clamped down firmly when doing any shaping. The heat from cutting out the shape and grinding the bevels seems to have bowed it a bit more than it started too. At this point it will go into the HT oven for the first normalization and straightening. After that, I'll draw file all the bevels. Then another normalization or two and then the final heat treat.
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Post by Avery on Jul 17, 2009 23:02:08 GMT
BB, it's looking awsome, man!! I can't wait to see the finished product.
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Post by genocideseth on Jul 17, 2009 23:25:47 GMT
Wow! Nice! That looks great!
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jul 18, 2009 20:57:21 GMT
Thanks Avery, I'm getting a bit anxious to see it all together myself. Thanks Seth I'll likely normalize the blade once this weekend so I can file it. I'm busy with a custom job and some other sculpture stuff so I can only work on these things here and there.
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