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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 23:04:32 GMT
Thanks for the karma, Jon. May I ask where you saw the stats of the Malatesta? I've looked at several websites and have only been able to find prototype pictures of it. I also agree that its grip is somewhat awkward looking. Perhaps if you got the Kriegschwert, you'd be able to customize the pommel in the future? Also, in regards to the VA Practical Arming Sword, you might like to know that there is a version of the sword with a brown grip and scabbard rather than black, which I personally think is more attractive looking. It costs a bit more, but only by about $10. Here's a link: www.kultofathena.com/product~item~AT303BR~name~Valiant+Armoury+Atrim+Practical+Arming+Sword+-+Brown.htm
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 23:29:18 GMT
A fellow forum member was kind enough to share the stats with me, although I do not know how he learned them. Overall Length: 45 11/16" Blade Length: 36" Handle Length: 6 13/16" Guard Width: 8 1/4" Blade Width: 1 3/4" Blade Width at tip:15/16" Weight: 2lbs 13oz Compared to the Kriegschwert, the Malatesta appears like it will be more of a swift, lightweight longsword. The stats are really close though, so the only way to be positive would be to hold them both. There is always the possibility that I could get a custom sword form the future custom sword shop mentioned somewhere in this thread. I just don't want to mess the balance up by getting a different pommel, but I am actually fine with the Kriegschwert's pommel. It is true that I prefer scent stopper pommels, but I know that the Kriegschwert handles very nicely as it is and I would rather not ruin that due to my ignorance of swords. It's coincidental that you should mention the brown arming sword, because today I have been looking at them on KOA. One thing that I am curious about is the new leather for the swords. I read somewhere that VA is now using leather made in Texas in the place of the previous material used with their swords. I may have mixed something up, but I know that I heard something about them using Texas leather on some of their products now, and if you compare the pictures of the brown practical swords to the regular ones on KOA you will notice that the scabbards are different, and the grips look like a different material. Perhaps the sword pictured as brown are from a new batch with the new leather?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 1:00:29 GMT
Well, if your getting 3 swords, then getting the Al II might not be that bad. Yeah it's a "project" sword since it's hell of a lot better if you modifiy them...but it's a project sword. It's quite nice to have a sword you can fiddle with. Those are two of the practical models that has a rehilt done. These swords make a great base for starting some customization and they are priced very well for that. Also an idea is maybe getting the albion squire line greatsword for 490+25 for sharpening. Yes it's a secondary bevel, but that can be taken care of quite easily and that sword seems like a good fit for what you want. It is quite close to the baron that you had your eye on . That along with whatever else you may want with the left over money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 2:33:49 GMT
I thought about that too. It wouldn't really be worth all the trouble though, because for that price I could buy a real Atrim and have money to spare.
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Post by Sonny Suttles on Jul 12, 2009 3:30:53 GMT
Tomorrow I will post pics of the First 2 Regal line swords. One of which is the new Regal Kriegschwert. This is almost exactly the same sword that Christian made for the prototype. The regal Kriegschwert features a Blade made by Gus Trim himself. Gus's blades have long been known for their performance when it comes to cutting. They have in the past been a little lacking in the finish when compared to say an Albion. For the Regal collection line as well as with the new Christian Fletcher/ Gus Trim Prestige line, The blades are completely finished and have a very clean look. Other differences are that fact the the Custom fitted Scabbard is made one at a time to exactly fit the blade provided by Gus. The handle is custom made to fit the tang and has a under leather cord wrap for strength, durability and historical accuracy. The leather colors for the Regal Kriegschwert are a Tan /Rusty color instead of the regular Brown and feature hand finished castings as well as a permanent assembly. The custom tooled scabbard also includes a hand made leather belt made exactly to Christian Fletcher's design specs. Overall, we think that the Regal line will be one of the finest sword/scabbard/belt sets available on the market today.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jul 12, 2009 4:24:52 GMT
Damn Sonny! That's gonna be an absolutely wonderful sword. I was quizzing Gus about these last week and he said the Regal Kriegschwert uses a modernized AT1313 blade. I have an AT/CF Borderwatch LOTR-inspired sword with that blade, and let me just say it is a MAGICAL freakin' cutting sword! Doggone it! I want one of these!
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 12, 2009 7:27:41 GMT
Can't wait to see the new swords Sonny... I'm always excited by your new products. Mike: Your Borderwatch sword is one of my all time favs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 7:27:45 GMT
I thought about that too. It wouldn't really be worth all the trouble though, because for that price I could buy a real Atrim and have money to spare. Is this for the turning the albrecht into a project sword or the albion squire? The Albion squire great sword is quite a massive sword of war. I haven't seen any Atrim that's quite like this sword. So while the price is the same as an Atrim, it's a very different option. As for the hanwei sword...well it depends on what you do really...and what you have paid to get done. Yes paying for a full rehilt + sharpening will probably run you 300+...which with the cost of the sword is at an atrim cost...but part of the fun of a project sword is to have it be your project . Not that you may have access to the tools and skills right now...but it is something you can enjoy while working on it. My gen 2 is my long term project blade currently...eventually I'm gonna re-grind the blade and redo the fitting and put a differential heat treat on it. It'll cost me 500 bucks to pay somebody, but I'm gonna do some of the work myself so it'll most likely be around 150-200 (can't do the HT myself...and I feel better about having the cross done for me...I think I can manage to make a wheel pommel ).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 13:10:13 GMT
That is very interesting, Sonny, but unfortunately it is over my price range this time. Sorry, Cold Napalm, but I do not have the tools or skills needed for a project like that. I would rather just buy my sword the way that I want it. The 1313 is a good sword, and I could exchange the VA longsword with it, but it is scabbardless and beltless. And now we have the "20%". So the question is: Is it worth it?
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Post by Sonny Suttles on Jul 12, 2009 15:31:22 GMT
I just logged on to check out the response to my post last night and I didn't seem to be able to find it. I was wondering if it got deleted or what. After a little search I found it here. Sorry guys. Didn't mean to post here. I don't know how I did that. I guess I was reading this post and hit reply on this thread. Not paying close enough attention. I though I had clicked to begin a new thread in the Manufactorers forum. Anyway, sorry to invade the thread. I will post the pics in a new thread in a few hours.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 16:52:44 GMT
Don't worry, Sonny, it is still somewhat on topic. And if you had not posted here I would never know that the new pictures will be up. Since you are here though, do you know when the custom sword shop will be open?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 15:12:09 GMT
Wowzers @ the Regal line
Sonny, you do make it difficult to make a decision....geezz.....
So when will this line come available?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 4:05:10 GMT
I apologize for reviving this old thread. I have (hopefully) one last question. For german longsword techniques, which sword do you recommend - the H/T longsword or the VA longsword?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Sept 5, 2009 4:11:11 GMT
for German longsword, the H/T. because the H/T is a model that would have been used durring the time the German Masters taught.
here's a review off-site of the H/T longsword. I link this because these guys are serious longsword people, though I think they do Italian instead of German but either way the time frames still work.
mind you the VA AT304 might be more fun in back yard cutting but the H/T longsword is by all accounts a great sword AND I'll sharpen that one too under my open offer.
I think you can't choose the wrong sword between the two because you WILL get a good edge from me. ;D
eeney meeney miney moe?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 4:25:42 GMT
I think there's been a short discussion before about this but I think the consensus was that the Hanwei/Tinker is probably better for German Longsword. Having said that, you'll be still be able to practice well enough with the VA Longsword. Seeing as the Kriegschwert I'm getting is reasonably similar to the 304 I'll be happy to give you an impression of its handling doing some basic drills compared to my Windlass Erbach. Hope that helps, mate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 13:38:08 GMT
I thought it over last night and this morning, and I am going to get the 304S. The main reason is the price being $60 less than the H/T. I need to save a little bit of money to buy oil and wood for cutting stands.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 14:15:17 GMT
Good choice, does this mean you are buying 3 swords? T/H Viking & Norman and the VA?
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 5, 2009 14:24:23 GMT
I thought it over last night and this morning, and I am going to get the 304S. The main reason is the price being $60 less than the H/T. I need to save a little bit of money to buy oil and wood for cutting stands. Yeah, that's the thing that's held me back from the H/T line. Are they really enough better than the VA Atrims to justify the price? With the questionable edge on the H/T's, so far the answer for me has been no. Then again I haven't handled any of the H/T's and Tom reports the edge issues are getting lined out, so..... Still, I know the VA practicals are good, at least from my experience with them, them being first run also. Bird in the hand to me. I think that's a good choice in first sword, Jonathan.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Sept 5, 2009 16:51:31 GMT
well I guess it's pointless for me to post the link to that review that I wanted to post before but managed not to somehow.
any way I'm glad you've made your decision Jon I think you'll love the VA longsword it's a real fun sword I love mine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 17:43:15 GMT
I also adore my VA 304S--it is most definitely my currrent favorite sword. It has taught me a lot. It's amazingly light and fast in hand (And I think the hilt looks way better than the H/T). Great sword to have, and it's leaps and bounds above most other things at it's price point. Enjoy the hell out of it.
(Might I suggest getting the sexy antique brown finish? I did. It looks oh-so-LOTR)
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