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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 2:28:54 GMT
hmmm I don't know... I think I might want to see what it's like on the other side... BTW even a decent winter jacket would be good enough as well
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 2:51:22 GMT
gambeson, micro ring chainmail (aka mithril), and if it was cold trench coat or thick flack jacket
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 3:00:35 GMT
gambeson, micro ring chainmail (aka mithril), and if it was cold trench coat or thick flack jacket Mythril isn't a form of maille, it's a fictitious metal. I suppose Titanium would pretty much be the closest real-world equivalent. Light and strong, good for armor. And besides, maille won't do shizzle. It's meant to be worn over padding to prevent slicing cuts. If teeth are what you're defending against, the padding alone will do fine since the maille would be extra weight and has absolutely no defense against the crush of a bite. A layer or two of kevlar, built into the padding of the gambeson, should very well be enough to prevent penetration of human teeth.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 3:13:06 GMT
true but i was refering to the micro mesh that they make at ringmesh.com
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 3:31:39 GMT
true but i was refering to the micro mesh that they make at ringmesh.com Ah. Still, it's good for sharksuits and butcher gloves. Not much else, other than looking sempriniin. If I had the money, I'd line my trenchcoat with Ti-maille. Not really for a zombie attack, but sempriniin' regardless.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 3:50:14 GMT
Dragonskin (modern armor) + micro mesh + gambeson = Epic
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 5:42:17 GMT
true but i was refering to the micro mesh that they make at ringmesh.com Ah. Still, it's good for sharksuits and butcher gloves. Not much else, other than looking sempriniin. If I had the money, I'd line my trenchcoat with Ti-maille. Not really for a zombie attack, but sempriniin' regardless. Cause, uh, those wimpy medium-sized sharks it works against have nowhere near the tooth sharpness or bite pressure of a human being ...
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 14:39:43 GMT
Ah. Still, it's good for sharksuits and butcher gloves. Not much else, other than looking sempriniin. If I had the money, I'd line my trenchcoat with Ti-maille. Not really for a zombie attack, but sempriniin' regardless. Cause, uh, those wimpy medium-sized sharks it works against have nowhere near the tooth sharpness or bite pressure of a human being ... You've obviously missed the point. The main thing you're defending against with a shark-suit is the extreme sharpness of their teeth. Padding would be great, but would hinder your flexibility in the water. Besides, wearing a shark-suit is to keep small sharks from tearing chunks out of you. If a great white wants you, you damn well better be in a shark-CAGE, or you're screwed beyond belief. Have you ever seen a shark tooth? Human teeth aren't anywhere near as sharp, so it's a crushing action as opposed to the slicing or piercing action of a shark's teeth. Look: A selection of human teeth. Shark teeth. NOTICE A DIFFERENCE? Unless you're dealing with small-to-medium zombie sharks, the maille won't be doing much. Some people, of course, will overlook that because they feel maille is more protective and thus automatically better. But it's only good against cutting motions. Human teeth don't cut, and zombies don't carry knives. Yes, it'll prevent the teeth from penetrating your skin, but there's lighter, cheaper, and easier-to-achieve materials. Sure, maille would look cool, but if the semprini hits the fan, how many of you have access to a micro-maille shirt? And dragon-skin? Sure, but how many people can afford it? Hell, is it even available to the public? I know the military isn't using it, so I'm not even aware of it going into production. If you want to learn the best ways to protect against a biting human, I highly suggest you talk to an employee of a psych-ward.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 14:43:46 GMT
i might add the idea was to just give you enough time to break the zombies hold and retaliate? you stand there and let it chew away you should just lay on the ground
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 15:44:50 GMT
Once it bites and breaks the skin, you're done. If you survive, you're still going to turn.
You want to prevent breaking the skin (or even contacting the skin, if possible), and remain able to attack or retreat without injury.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 16:48:08 GMT
gambeson, micro ring chainmail (aka mithril), and if it was cold trench coat or thick flack jacket Mythril isn't a form of maille, it's a fictitious metal. I suppose Titanium would pretty much be the closest real-world equivalent. Light and strong, good for armor. Mithril was a type of absolutely perfect silver that proved to be the best metal for armour as far as protection. Pricewise, it was a little hard to get. When people talk about mithril coats or mithril shirts and such, they're talking about mithril chainmail. It was also occasionally used to make plate armour or helms, but rarely enough to suggest that either it wasn't very good for the purpose or was just THAT expensive. [/dork]
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 19:35:06 GMT
Once it bites and breaks the skin, you're done. If you survive, you're still going to turn. You want to prevent breaking the skin (or even contacting the skin, if possible), and remain able to attack or retreat without injury. which is why u use the micro mesh to keep from tearing of the skin and flesh cause thats what human teeth are designed to do while still remaining light, fast, and manuverable enough to distract the zombie long enough to escape (i would say till you kill it but its the living DEAD so im not sure that would apply)
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 22:29:36 GMT
actually I believe it would be their saliva and other bodily fluids that would cause the infection to spread, not the teeth penetrating flesh perse
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 23:24:47 GMT
actually I believe it would be their saliva and other bodily fluids that would cause the infection to spread, not the teeth penetrating flesh perse Your skin is an amazing organ. It's your primary defense against disease. The saliva on your skin would have no effect, unless it gets into an open wound, your mouth, or your eyes. Thus, the zombies bite needs to be protected against with padding, which will absorb the crushing force (doesn't need to be sharp to get you bleeding). The outer layer should be a dense fabric like Kevlar which will resist penetration of teeth and halt fluids (as oppose to maille, which won't do diddly to stop drool/blood). I'd suggest a wetsuit underneath whatever protective layers you choose, but I think those things would heat up damn quick. And haz-mat suits are too baggy, and would get caught up and give zombies something to hold on to.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 0:00:02 GMT
wetsuit seconded
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 2:03:46 GMT
Leather jacket and pants. Cut-resistant gloves. Combat boots.
That's really all you need.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 18:02:55 GMT
I'd go with steel toe boots
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 20:56:01 GMT
haha, i dont go anywhere without black steel toe boots on.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2009 3:55:50 GMT
If zombie films are anything to go on then, you are at considerable risk when scavenging in deserted buildings, so I would want some kind of protection to stop zombie teeth, a Gambeson would not slow you down to much and would give you enough protection against bites. Better protection when scavenging is to work with a partner or a team, make sure you do it during the day, have a close-range weapon (Preferably a shotgun), and most importantly of all; knock. A zombie that's in a room with a closed door is an ambush easily avoided. Simply knock on the door. The sound will alert any zombie inside and cause them to make noise, letting you know if there's a stiffie waiting in the room beyond. No sound means you're probably ok to go in. Knock loudly a few times and wait a little while. Silence = probably safe. As for chainmail, it seems like a good idea but in reality its a poor choice. Chainmail is designed to protect against slashing and chopping, not biting. While it may protect you, it gives the zombies a great surface to grab onto and pull you. As anyone who's worn chain for an appreciable amount of time will know, chain is NOISY. Just on its own the rustling of the links will be enough to provide a target for zombies. Brushing up against metal or wood produces an even louder noise. Now imagine having to haul ass away from a crowd of zombies and you basically become canned food.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2009 17:03:55 GMT
I dont know about avoiding rooms with zombies in them... they might have something worth the encounter in them, example: Guy gets bitten and cant stop bleeding so he decides to find a room, lock the door, put down his SHOTGUN, and see if he can tend the wound then. Or even some food, just make sure to clear rooms with more then just yourself
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