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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2008 8:25:06 GMT
The samurai, most of whom were Buddhist, and whose religion prohibited them from taking lives, believed their swords to which they were so attached had a soul, and therefore it was the sword as a sort of living entity in itself that did the killing.
The idea of physical objects, especially those we use often and to which we are most attached, having a soul is not unheard of in the West, nor a particularly Eastern idea. Do you feel your favorite sword has a soul? I'd answer this for myself but I do not yet own a sword. Soon though, soon....
Jeff
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 23, 2008 15:13:30 GMT
Not a soul as I understand the concept. I do think they can be possessed of evil spirits.
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Post by alvin on Nov 23, 2008 15:25:39 GMT
I don't believe that any of my swords have a soul. But in a previous existence I believed that my sword, while not having a soul itself, was a soul-taker.
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 23, 2008 15:29:24 GMT
Hmmm, more of a soul releaser I would think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2008 18:00:57 GMT
One of my swords has a soul. It talks to me sometimes, says its name is Calibur. Does that mean anything to anyone? ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2008 18:13:00 GMT
Ah, sounds like my sword-with-a-soul. It likes to be called Edge. Makes me feel kinda red-headed when I use it, but at least it helps me light fires to keep warm in these poor times But really, nah, most of my blades are pretty soulless
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 23, 2008 19:05:14 GMT
no more of aa soul than anything else in the world, which is to say: yeah, maybe.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Nov 23, 2008 19:08:35 GMT
One of my swords has a soul. It talks to me sometimes, says its name is Calibur. Does that mean anything to anyone? ;-) Huh , that's funny one of my swords USED to be Calibur... Now it is EX-Calibur ;D I believe that a sword , like so many things , can come to be an expression of the soul that crafts it, or weilds it... but as far as having a soul of it's own..... Nah... I'm not even ready to be firm on human's having souls , much less swords. Swordsguns don't kill people... people kill people
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Post by alvin on Nov 23, 2008 19:23:11 GMT
Hmmm, more of a soul releaser I would think. No, it actually took them!! At the beginning it stored them in the grip. But, after the grip became too full, it started using the pommel and guard !!!
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 23, 2008 19:26:22 GMT
In that case, it would "have" a soul, maybe more than one. ;D
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Post by alvin on Nov 23, 2008 19:29:44 GMT
In that case, it would "have" a soul, maybe more than one. ;D Now..you've playing with words Rick. It was a soulless, soul collecting sword.
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Post by 293master293 on Nov 23, 2008 20:39:23 GMT
My sword has a soul, and it even talks to me. It threatens me if I leave it too long with out feeding it plastic and water! *Rocks Back And Forth In Dark Corner Shaking Uncontrollably*
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2008 22:13:40 GMT
Well, do you think if a sword was used to-um-"dispatch" an enemy, would it absorb something of the adversary's soul? It is widely held that the soul is in the blood of many creatures.
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Post by alvin on Nov 23, 2008 23:48:24 GMT
Well, do you think if a sword was used to-um-"dispatch" an enemy, would it absorb something of the adversary's soul? It is widely held that the soul is in the blood of many creatures. So that's how ol' Soul Taker did it !!
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Post by wiwingti on Nov 24, 2008 0:19:55 GMT
for myself, i am sure that swords have soul, and i'll try to explain why.
why do you think guys, that you can't stop thinking of swords? why do you think that you can't stop buying more and more swords? why do you think that you can't control yourself looking day after day after day for more and more and more swords to buy?
i got the answer. swords have soul and they talk to us.
so, do like me and say that to your wife , and tell me if she understand
hahahahaha
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Post by mythosequidae on Nov 24, 2008 0:43:00 GMT
I can't believe that they created false appendices in order to justify compromising their belief system. Glad people don't do that any more..........
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Nov 24, 2008 0:51:25 GMT
I can't believe that they created false appendices in order to justify compromising their belief system. Glad people don't do that any more.......... Ha... funny... sarcasm at its finest ;D
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 24, 2008 2:39:52 GMT
Hmmm... I don't belive any of my swords have a 'soul'... nor am I a beliver in inanmate objects possesing a soul. I am opened minded... and I do belive in some level of what people might call 'metaphysics'. Or, it might be more accurate to say I'm open to the possibility of some metaphysical things. As far as swords and souls go... I have the following thoughts... I don't see it as objects/weapons whatever possessing a Soul... but I'm willing to consider some form of psychomitry... the idea that a person who keeps and handles an object leaves impressions of himself/herself on that object. So... a sword that someone practiced with day in day out for years could begain to absorb the essence of the person weilding it... their intent, their mindset... it could become flavord with their 'soul' if you will. A production sword would not, in my opinion, have such an essence invested in at it creation... it's just not handled much or with passion or intesity, so nothing would be left on the blade. A truely well crafted custom sword, on the other hand... I could well belive the creator of such a wepaon may leave a little of themself in the blade. Their creativity, passion, dedication... some of their essence or soul. Any sword, custom or production, kept and used long enough by someone could then absorb some of that persons essence or soul. Some of what makes that person unique could manifest in the sword. Now... I'm not saying this is my belife, only that I'm willing to consider it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2008 4:14:27 GMT
Hmmm... I don't belive any of my swords have a 'soul'... nor am I a beliver in inanmate objects possesing a soul. I am opened minded... and I do belive in some level of what people might call 'metaphysics'. Or, it might be more accurate to say I'm open to the possibility of some metaphysical things. As far as swords and souls go... I have the following thoughts... I don't see it as objects/weapons whatever possessing a Soul... but I'm willing to consider some form of psychomitry... the idea that a person who keeps and handles an object leaves impressions of himself/herself on that object. So... a sword that someone practiced with day in day out for years could begain to absorb the essence of the person weilding it... their intent, their mindset... it could become flavord with their 'soul' if you will. A production sword would not, in my opinion, have such an essence invested in at it creation... it's just not handled much or with passion or intesity, so nothing would be left on the blade. A truely well crafted custom sword, on the other hand... I could well belive the creator of such a wepaon may leave a little of themself in the blade. Their creativity, passion, dedication... some of their essence or soul. Any sword, custom or production, kept and used long enough by someone could then absorb some of that persons essence or soul. Some of what makes that person unique could manifest in the sword. Now... I'm not saying this is my belife, only that I'm willing to consider it. wow i could not have thought of a better way to say it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2008 22:35:21 GMT
The samurai, most of whom were Buddhist, and whose religion prohibited them from taking lives, believed their swords to which they were so attached had a soul, and therefore it was the sword as a sort of living entity in itself that did the killing. The idea of physical objects, especially those we use often and to which we are most attached, having a soul is not unheard of in the West, nor a particularly Eastern idea. Do you feel your favorite sword has a soul? I'd answer this for myself but I do not yet own a sword. Soon though, soon.... Jeff Samurai was the name of a small group within the Buke which only referred to men, the Buke were the warrior class, not the samurai the samurai were just part of the buke. Also most Japanese people believed in Shinto, not Buddhism, they believed in Kami (which is plural) Shinto is Japan's native religion and is worlds apart from Buddhism.
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