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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 14:36:15 GMT
I have had Anduril for a while now and have gotten over my Initial Disappointment with the weight. I have been using it to practice forms with and as several forum members have pointed out there is definitely some benefit to be had from practicing with a heavier than normal sword. That being normal weight swords are far easier to control afterwords. I took a closer look and did a direct comparison between Anduril and the Ranger. Some interesting things came from that. So I thought a legit review is in order. So here it is....
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Aug 12, 2008 15:36:13 GMT
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Anduril..Anduril..Anduril..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 16:31:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 18:10:57 GMT
Great review of Anduril Steve. I agree with you; if someone were wanting a good Anduril replica, this is the one to get! +1 to you bud
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 12, 2008 18:55:09 GMT
+1 for the shirtless pic.
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Post by Darksword Armory on Aug 12, 2008 19:41:38 GMT
Hi Steve, Thank you for your review. Great pictures. Glad you like the swords. My only concern is the mention of "cast aluminum". We do not use aluminum or casts in our production. (Although besides the point, casting is VERY expensive ). We are trying to figure out how to use Microsoft's movie maker in order to film some forging excerpts. Our goal is to make a short (30 minute) documentary for SBG members, demonstrating how we forge our pieces and so forth. We will get that posted as soon as we figure out the program. We will keep you posted. Thanks again for the review. Eyal, DSA www.darksword-armory.com
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 12, 2008 20:32:58 GMT
+1 for the shirtless pic. Seconded. Great review, too. Eyal, hope you figure that out soon; I can't wait to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 20:33:28 GMT
so then what is the pommel and guard made out of?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 21:17:51 GMT
Darksword It is certainly possible that the guard and pommel are machined ALUMINUM. Are you suggesting that these these parts are steel? You certainly did not say directly what these pieces are made from. The metal is soft enough to cut easily with a wood carving gouge. It oxidizes quickly to the exact color of bare aluminum. It polishes beautifully nearly indistinguishable from chrome, leaving a black residue on the polishing medium. I can do a specific gravity test to determine its approximate molecular weight. I would like a clear and expeditious answer to these questions. Or you can Ignore this just like you do with questions regarding excess weight. To say that your post annoyed me somewhat is an understatement. I purposely waited several months after receiving this sword before posting a review so that I could give as unbiased of a review as possible. The reason is that I did not want to unfairly blast darksword. Make no mistake, I am sorely disappointed in the weight of the 2 darkswords that I own.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 22:52:44 GMT
The plot thickens, eh?
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Post by 293master293 on Aug 12, 2008 22:57:53 GMT
The plot thickens, eh? I'm afraid so. Looks like aluminum to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 22:59:06 GMT
I think a movie is a great idea Eyal...but yeah, if it isn't aluminum...what is it?!? Because it sure isn't steel.
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Post by 293master293 on Aug 12, 2008 23:00:33 GMT
I think a movie is a great idea Eyal...but yeah, if it isn't aluminum...what is it?!? Because it sure isn't steel. Maybe zinc? Aluminum and zinc carry most of the same characteristics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 23:06:40 GMT
Oh yeah...zinc because that's so much better . I think I'd rather have aluminum hehe. But he also said he Doesn't cast and zinc pretty much has to be cast doesn't it? I don't think I have ever heard of machined zinc parts....
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Post by 293master293 on Aug 12, 2008 23:11:02 GMT
Oh yeah...zinc because that's so much better . I think I'd rather have aluminum hehe. But he also said he Doesn't cast and zinc pretty much has to be cast doesn't it? I don't think I have ever heard of machined zinc parts.... True on both counts. Zinc sucks. The only thing that zinc is good for is melting it down and then poking it with a stick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 23:14:09 GMT
We are trying to figure out how to use Microsoft's movie maker in order to film some forging excerpts. Our goal is to make a short (30 minute) documentary for SBG members, demonstrating how we forge our pieces and so forth. We will get that posted as soon as we figure out the program. We will keep you posted. Thanks again for the review. Eyal, DSA www.darksword-armory.comSuch an act would be applauded, and would greatly alleve any concerns some may have (mine, partly) about your products.
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Post by hotspur on Aug 12, 2008 23:50:52 GMT
We are trying to figure out how to use Microsoft's movie maker in order to film some forging excerpts. Our goal is to make a short (30 minute) documentary for SBG members, demonstrating how we forge our pieces and so forth. We will get that posted as soon as we figure out the program. We will keep you posted. Thanks again for the review. Eyal, DSA www.darksword-armory.comSuch an act would be applauded, and would greatly alleve any concerns some may have (mine, partly) about your products. The thing is that there hasn't been so much as a phone camera picture shared of any inner workings of manufacture. I use the word purposefully, as orders apparently need wait for shipments to be received by the distributor. Only Eyal can really share all if he chooses to but despite enthusiasm for the marketplace, has been in the import/export business a good long time. This is quite easily found through trade guides. Are these batched from various sources and then final assembly taking place under a more watchful eye? Who knows? A good start would be at least updating apprentice information on their page that doesn't agree with the SGB interview. Would I still see an apprentice program listed on their page if I visited now? Drop forging is forging, as are rolling mills. Unless the steel used is coming from their own smelts and picked from blooms, it starts life as a forged product anyway. After all, that is how bar stock and sheet is formed. The hammer marks so many often say they see on production swords is more likely to be finish grinding wobbles. There are lots of alloys that aren't aluminum. Many zinc alloys have no trace whatsoever. Low grade high chromium steels are non-magnetic and could look as dull unpolished, even cut easily with a file. Yes, an experiened eye might easily determine what they see is not steel. I'm likely to give someone measuring in 1/1000 of an inch a little credit for what they are experiencing. A comprehensive half hour video is not production lightly undertaken and I hope it does answer questions many have. At the same time, a commercial is a commercial and I have never known a good businessman to share anything they don't want a customer to see. I'm sad to see a review turn into a pursued question and answer discussion but more has been left unsaid than shared for a good long time. Cheers Hotspur; I've always felt that complete disclosure would sell just as many, if not more swords
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Post by Avery on Aug 13, 2008 1:46:54 GMT
I wholeheartedly agree with hotspur.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Aug 13, 2008 2:42:14 GMT
The guard and pommel are made of aluminum. Notice the color steel vs. aluminum. I also carved a small groove easily in the end of the pommel and these parts are nonmagnetic. Aha! See! I kept saying these parts aren't any type of steel. And Eyal kept insisting that they were Stainless steel. Stainless is often non magnetic by the way. I reckon they weigh too much for Aluminium. But they aren't steel either. They are some dodgy pot metal, which is soft like butter. The thing is Eyal said all of their hilts were stainless steel from admiral. But you can clearly see two different types used. And if you don't cast then how do you make these: Do you carve each one by hand in the butter like steel? And how do you get the sandy texture inside the slot? +1 for the review Steve. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2008 3:45:47 GMT
Wow, I didn't expect this review to turn out like it did. As I said before, I do own this piece and I really do love it. I weighed mine, which is 4lbs 10oz as opposed to my Ranger, which is 6lbs 2oz. I really feel DSA is addressing the weight issue and are doing their best to bring the weight down while still maintaining the durability and performance we come to expect from them. A 6lb sword is heavy, but usable. The video of my wife using it (with ease) shows that; however using it on the battle field would take tremendous strength and stamina. I think we have to allow for baby steps and not expect the issue to be resolved immediately. I'm a huge fan of DSA and haven't been let down by them yet. Steve, I do understand your frustration but give Eyal an opportunity to explain and I'm sure we'll all be better informed afterwards. Thanks again Steve for the great review and excellent pics. Another +1 to you!
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