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Post by tera on Jan 21, 2022 18:42:44 GMT
Handgun hero is a lifesaver. Doesn't beat handling one but does let me automatically rule out some that are WAY too big for me. Fitment can be more than just dimensional stats, though. I like this tool, but as others have said there is no substitute for trying things on. For example, here is my XDM. Having shot many other platforms I now don't generally recommend the XD/XDM line as the high bore axis makes for more perceived recoil and longer split times. That said, when I bought it the XDM (M for Match) had all the safety features I was after and still fit my small hands. The secret here is in those relief cuts between the grip and trigger guard. If you ride high on the gun (as you should) the grip is slimmer where it matters due to those cuts. It aligns with my forearm properly, I can operate it without shifting my grip, and 19+1 9mm capacity is a bonus. Now, a huge amount of that grip protrudes below my hands, but that doesn't affect my ability to control it, so I don't mind. And yes, I've conceal carried that without the muzzle device and nobody's noticed the big honking thing. Holster selection is key, there. In short, it's about contour. The Shields, for example, while single-stack have a weirdly long front strap to backstrap dimension. So, sometimes that smaller gun doesn't fit as well as a bigger one. *All components, including the suppressor, lawfully owned in compliance with Federal, State, and Local law.  |
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Post by Lord Newport on Jan 21, 2022 19:03:39 GMT
I honestly don't know, but I'd like to see the day Disney publically acknowledges a brand marketing deal with a firearms manufacturer. The other direction works, too. I'll be first in line for a " Stark Industries" branded railgun. Did you say "RAIL GUN"? General Atomics beat them to it...   |
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Post by shotokan on Jan 21, 2022 19:09:53 GMT
I honestly don't know, but I'd like to see the day Disney publically acknowledges a brand marketing deal with a firearms manufacturer. The other direction works, too. I'll be first in line for a " Stark Industries" branded railgun. Did you say "RAIL GUN"? General Atomics beat them to it... I need to get one of those mounted on my tundra. |
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Post by sonofarwyn on Jan 25, 2022 8:13:15 GMT
I would echo what tera said. Having it in hand really seals the deal or sinks it, IMO.
I really wanted the new CZ PCC, until I held one. The safety was right in my grip, digging into my hand, unsold the gun immediately.
Flipside was a Tanfoglio Stock III, a gun I never new I needed till I held it. Like a big CZ 75, pointed great, great ergonomics for my gorilla hands, and an utterly fabulous trigger. I know own one in .38 Super and 10mm.
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Post by tera on Jan 25, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
For what it's worth, the CZ Scorpion Evo has a huge aftermarket now. The selectors being intrusive was a common complaint so there are many drop in alternatives. There are even bullpup kits for it, if you want to go that wacky.
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Post by jack88 on Jan 30, 2022 0:25:31 GMT
320 all day, my wife got to pick out any gun she wanted to a Christmas present and after shooting many she went with the 320. I have shot many many X more. The 320 is a really smooth easy to shoot gun, and a good size also. Personally, I carry an HK P30 or an FN 57 depending on if I want to IWB carry or not.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 13, 2022 9:41:42 GMT
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 13, 2022 21:03:32 GMT
Nothing negative in the article about the SiG P66 Mk25 at all. Just moving on and since the Army has gone over to the Glock platform with the M17/18 it makes sense. The Mk. 25 has been a constant companion for SEALs over the past three decades, including operations in Panama, Somalia, Haiti, the Balkans, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and other countries. In late 2015, Naval Special Warfare Command made the decision to add the Glock 19, the compact nine-millimeter version of the Glock series of handguns, to the SEALs’ handgun arsenal. While Mk. 25s will carry on, the SEALs will gradually replace them with newer Glocks. Sig Sauer had a good quarter-century run arming America’s naval commandos, and now the torch is passed to Glock. |
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Post by howler on Feb 13, 2022 21:33:24 GMT
Cost and lighter carry weight (military logistical needs) favor Glock. Home defense I'd take the Sig because weight is your friend.
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Post by ironhamster on Feb 13, 2022 21:56:40 GMT
To be honest, I wouldn't recommend a pistol for home defense. Hold a pistol at arms length and shake it vigorously. Now, do the same with a carbine length rifle. I can shake a rifle and still put rounds in the torso of a silhouette target. This shaking is what 99% of the population will experience in a life or death situation.
So, weight being a friend might be true, but using both hands on a longer weapon is even more so.
There are plenty of good pistol caliber carbines, and more and less power than a 9mm pistol. Ruger 10/22? I guarantee the 22LR is the most maligned and underrated home defense round out there, going through fourteen inches of flesh and not in a straight line, but when my kids were six years old they could put 10 out of ten rounds in the black. Even if half ended up in a perp, his best prognosis is that he will have a very bad day. I'd much rather that a home intruder be hit with a 22 than missed with a 9.
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 14, 2022 1:00:12 GMT
To be honest, I wouldn't recommend a pistol for home defense. Hold a pistol at arms length and shake it vigorously. Now, do the same with a carbine length rifle. I can shake a rifle and still put rounds in the torso of a silhouette target. This shaking is what 99% of the population will experience in a life or death situation. So, weight being a friend might be true, but using both hands on a longer weapon is even more so. There are plenty of good pistol caliber carbines, and more and less power than a 9mm pistol. Ruger 10/22? I guarantee the 22LR is the most maligned and underrated home defense round out there, going through fourteen inches of flesh and not in a straight line, but when my kids were six years old they could put 10 out of ten rounds in the black. Even if half ended up in a perp, his best prognosis is that he will have a very bad day. I'd much rather that a home intruder be hit with a 22 than missed with a 9. I agree the .22 is often incorrectly thought of as harmless. No bullet is harmless, particularly not when fired out a longer barrel like a 10/22. Interesting fact: Israeli black ops commandos sometimes use 10/22 rifles with scopes to kill sentries and guard dogs because it doesn’t need to be suppressed and is a “civilian” rifle so it leads to better plausible deniability if captured. |
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Post by howler on Feb 14, 2022 1:03:17 GMT
To be honest, I wouldn't recommend a pistol for home defense. Hold a pistol at arms length and shake it vigorously. Now, do the same with a carbine length rifle. I can shake a rifle and still put rounds in the torso of a silhouette target. This shaking is what 99% of the population will experience in a life or death situation. So, weight being a friend might be true, but using both hands on a longer weapon is even more so. There are plenty of good pistol caliber carbines, and more and less power than a 9mm pistol. Ruger 10/22? I guarantee the 22LR is the most maligned and underrated home defense round out there, going through fourteen inches of flesh and not in a straight line, but when my kids were six years old they could put 10 out of ten rounds in the black. Even if half ended up in a perp, his best prognosis is that he will have a very bad day. I'd much rather that a home intruder be hit with a 22 than missed with a 9. Agree 100%, but this isn't either/or. AR type carbine followed by shotgun, both with a sling for shoulder so you can open doors and whatnot with one hand. However, you should STILL have a pistol for home defense (in a holster on a belt) while carrying that carbine with a sling, and also a pistol in arms reach near bed to get you to the rifle cabinet. |
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Post by tera on Feb 14, 2022 5:19:33 GMT
Not wearing my mod hat, but carbine/rifle for home defense is an entirely separate conversation (worthy of its own thread!)
OP has long since bought the Glock 19 and is looking at his next purchase, so let's not derail.
I'd LOVE to see the Firearm sub-forum more active, so feel free to post new threads on new topics!
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Post by 14thforsaken on Feb 14, 2022 17:31:36 GMT
I love my S&W M&P .22LR pistol. Its perfect for working on my form and stance and the ammo doesn't break the bank.
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Post by liverskaya on Feb 20, 2022 19:50:17 GMT
It seems to me that it is necessary to work a little first of all in the dash. Hold it in your hands and shoot to understand which of the two suggested options is more convenient for you. So you can draw the most correct conclusions. As for me, I had exactly the same choice. I preferred the Glock for many characteristics. But what pleased me the most was that I was able to purchase a very convenient holster for concealed carry using the website ballachy.com/best-holster-for-glock-43x /. I hope I never have to apply it. |
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