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Post by howler on Feb 4, 2020 6:13:13 GMT
Okay, so European history is yet another thing you need to read up on before commenting. I suggest beginning with the Merovingians if you want to start with the foundation, or perhaps skip ahead to "Napoleonic Strategy" for a particularly notable series on warfare.
"My teacher at school..."
My friends and colleagues who are tenured historians at public research universities would just shrug at this, as I am, and simply suggest to take a real class at a half decent university or at the very least read a few books. Volumes on French military history and combat can be spotted with a cursory use of google scholar.
"French weeb..."
The thread title is "bad behavior", I'm sure conflating cultures and misappropriating slurs is hardly good behavior. To say little of name calling.
Dude Napoleon lost... I can't say insinuating Napoleon and the French military of his time as feeble helps your argument. They were tough, formidable, ferocious.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 4, 2020 6:22:42 GMT
It's okay guys - he takes a high school history class. He knows all there is about the humongous and complex topic that is European military history. Sorry, I know this is bad behavior but come on. There is youthful energy and arrogance - and there is this.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Feb 4, 2020 6:47:33 GMT
Guys (and girls), I really want to say something profound and calming that makes everybody happy and cheerful and friendly and generally extremely pleasant to interact with. But it's late, I have work in the morning, and I'm probably just going to come across as someone with a holier-than-thou mindset.
Be that as it may....
Us members of the forum who have been here for a year or ten: It's our job to shepherd in the newbies, the uninitiated, the misinformed. Yes, the sheep are often stubborn, refuse to be led, even turn around and butt the shepherd on occasion. This is not where we, the shepherds, need to get angry and push the bad sheep off the cliff so we don't have to deal with it's frustrating refusal to be guided. Our forum needs new members. Fresh blood, new ideas, growth, all that good stuff. We can't get that if we mob and lynch every noob who says something wildly inaccurate. Be the bigger man (or woman). Have a chuckle at a misinformed opinion, and remember that we were all probably there at one time. You'll never change someone by attacking them.
The noobs: You folks are great. Couple things to keep in mind when joining a new social group though. First, it simply doesn't sit well at all with the older members of the group if the new guy starts telling them all what's what - even if you, the newbie, actually do know what's what, and better than the old guys too. New people are usually passionate about stuff - awesome! That's just what our forum needs to stay fresh. But be mindful of the status quo, arbitrary though it may be. Be respectful to the old guys, they've got a lot of great knowledge to share. If someone's a little harsh to you, don't sweat it. Just smile and thank them for their help. Chances are, you'll end up cultivating a perfectly fine relationship with them once they warm up to you. Remember, the old members are the backbone of the forum: you're a guest, and it behooves you to act politely. Be teachable, listen, and you'll learn quite a bit.
Just my two cents. Pompous and ridiculous, probably, but hopefully it does something for somebody.
This is a great forum, and I really enjoy being a member. Thanks everyone.
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Post by Dandelion on Feb 4, 2020 6:52:02 GMT
Sorry dude I take history class in school and even my teacher laughed at Frances failures so I am gonna go off that and not some France weeb. Also you keep saying “almost” they still lost lol You've got a bad teacher then. Maybe not only in history class?
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 4, 2020 6:53:46 GMT
I think that we all should get a block of training on the use of the "ignore feature" and then chill out. I am not advocating putting anyone on ignore but if you are that annoyed/ disturbed by someone... just ignore them instead of engaging in a flame war...
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Post by Dandelion on Feb 4, 2020 6:56:24 GMT
Let us laugh at the child Difficult... we have too many of them around here too. Know everything, can do everything, and then theyre scratched from the road or end up in the drug abuse and unemployed end of things. When you look at a big part of german youth the laugh gets stuck in your throat...
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Feb 4, 2020 9:47:54 GMT
I for one would like to see less of whatever this turned into and more sword related talk. So here's a some sword related comment. I am very anxiously awaiting a copy of " Nihonto Swords Of Japan: A Visual Glossary (aka Zusetsu Nihontō yōgo jiten)" that is in the mail to me right now. It's not a sword, but I'm excited. Very cool! Looks like a tremendous archive. Is there an English translation by any chance? Cool! (Please savor my virtuoso utilization of the Ignore Button!)
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Post by Cos on Feb 4, 2020 10:58:06 GMT
Historically speaking France has a rich warrior history and has been perhaps the United States staunchest ally. So the whole dig a the French is not accurate or funny. Depending how you define "ally", the French probably ceased being our "staunchest ally" a great many years ago... I don't intrinsically disagree with your point, especially in recent times. However the "white flag waving frog munching surrender monkey" jokes and attitudes people seem to have is irritating and seriously misinformed. I did not mean to come across as a stickler or someone who cannot take a good natured joke, hope that's not how you viewed it.
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 4, 2020 11:05:36 GMT
Depending how you define "ally", the French probably ceased being our "staunchest ally" a great many years ago... I don't intrinsically disagree with your point, especially in recent times. However the "white flag waving frog munching surrender monkey" jokes and attitudes people seem to have is irritating and seriously misinformed. I did not mean to come across as a stickler or someone who cannot take a good natured joke, hope that's not how you viewed it. You voiced my thoughts exactly. Regardless of our relationship today, the “look at them and they surrender” “jokes” are extremely obnoxious and almost entirely false.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Feb 4, 2020 13:10:27 GMT
Keep in mind that we have members from all over the world here. So when you attack a country you're attacking a members country. You can't expect a good outcome from that.
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Feb 4, 2020 13:43:13 GMT
Keep in mind that we have members from all over the world here. So when you attack a country you're attacking a members country. You can't expect a good outcome from that. Heh, I am french Canadian, and while I do not take offense easily, I do get irritated by bad taste jokes and blanket insults, even if its 'for fun'. I do not find insults funny, in any form or shape.
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Post by reptaronice1 on Feb 4, 2020 14:23:27 GMT
Keep in mind that we have members from all over the world here. So when you attack a country you're attacking a members country. You can't expect a good outcome from that. Why be so patriotic then?
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 4, 2020 14:27:04 GMT
Keep in mind that we have members from all over the world here. So when you attack a country you're attacking a members country. You can't expect a good outcome from that. Why be so patriotic then? You just don’t get it, do you? We want you to be considerate of others!
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Post by reptaronice1 on Feb 4, 2020 14:28:33 GMT
Why be so patriotic then? You just don’t get it, do you? We want you to be considerate of others! Why be considerate when others are not considerate of you? I can’t be considerate of people who don’t know how to agree to disagree. It isn’t that hard that is all it takes
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Post by legacyofthesword on Feb 4, 2020 14:32:27 GMT
I've noticed as I'm sure you all have we've been getting some Facebook behavior here lately. Like the saying goes, what happens on Facebook stays on Facebook. Not everyone is going to agree on a subject every time but that's no reason for name calling or insults. Also some of the older members with high end swords or just because they've been doing this longer shouldn't be talking down on new members. You're suppose to be guiding them not belittling them. Differences in opinions is what makes a conversation interesting. And since none of us knows everything we can all learn something new. And if you can't you're probably dead. I've seen a couple threads that could have been long and informative locked because of this. If you feel yourself getting hot walk away and come back after you had time to cool down. Original post.... This entire thread would be absolutely hilarious if it wasn't so damn sad.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Feb 4, 2020 14:50:34 GMT
Keep in mind that we have members from all over the world here. So when you attack a country you're attacking a members country. You can't expect a good outcome from that. Why be so patriotic then? You can be patriotic without being disrespectful toward other countries and people. Patriotism is showing love for your own country not showing hate for others. Point out the good things about your country not the bad things about others.
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Post by reptaronice1 on Feb 4, 2020 14:55:29 GMT
Why be so patriotic then? You can be patriotic without being disrespectful toward other countries and people. Patriotism is showing love for your own country not showing hate for others. Point out the good things about your country not the bad things about others. No I’m saying don’t be so patriotic as to take offense at a joke. I know people who rip on America all the time and it’s actually funny even though I am American . Stereotypes have stuck around for a reason even if they are not totally true.
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Post by Cos on Feb 4, 2020 15:00:30 GMT
You just don’t get it, do you? We want you to be considerate of others! Why be considerate when others are not considerate of you? I can’t be considerate of people who don’t know how to agree to disagree. It isn’t that hard that is all it takes You're right that respect is a two way street but maybe consider the responses you got in this thread for without ego. You made a post in poor taste and received some warranted criticism. Instead of taking time to consider the words you lash out. A lot of members here are not directly attacking you, but the content of your post and your refusal to acknowledge that you may be in the wrong. I'm not attacking you, I do not know you. You seem to enjoy being a member here but you've had a hard time getting along. For what it's worth, I do hope it clicks for you. This is a good place.
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Post by reptaronice1 on Feb 4, 2020 15:08:43 GMT
Why be considerate when others are not considerate of you? I can’t be considerate of people who don’t know how to agree to disagree. It isn’t that hard that is all it takes You're right that respect is a two way street but maybe consider the responses you got in this thread for without ego. You made a post in poor taste and received some warranted criticism. Instead of taking time to consider the words you lash out. A lot of members here are not directly attacking you, but the content of your post and your refusal to acknowledge that you may be in the wrong. I'm not attacking you, I do not know you. You seem to enjoy being a member here but you've had a hard time getting along. For what it's worth, I do hope it clicks for you. This is a good place. I can agree to that. My question is though why my posts? I have seen others post about women, other races, opinions etc and not get any hate. Someone recently made a post about Chinese people and didn’t get any slack for it. You can not say it isn’t partially my age that everyone gets angry. I guess I don’t know how people get angry so easily. Is the internet really worth getting angry at? Maybe it’s cause I’m younger and have lots of online experience and realize what happens on the internet doesn’t matter so it isn’t worth getting angry. Like I said you play any online game with pvp and someone cusses you out and then you move on and forget about it. I guess people hold more of a grudge here with that.
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Post by Cos on Feb 4, 2020 15:50:23 GMT
You're right that respect is a two way street but maybe consider the responses you got in this thread for without ego. You made a post in poor taste and received some warranted criticism. Instead of taking time to consider the words you lash out. A lot of members here are not directly attacking you, but the content of your post and your refusal to acknowledge that you may be in the wrong. I'm not attacking you, I do not know you. You seem to enjoy being a member here but you've had a hard time getting along. For what it's worth, I do hope it clicks for you. This is a good place. I can agree to that. My question is though why my posts? I have seen others post about women, other races, opinions etc and not get any hate. Someone recently made a post about Chinese people and didn’t get any slack for it. You can not say it isn’t partially my age that everyone gets angry. I guess I don’t know how people get angry so easily. Is the internet really worth getting angry at? Maybe it’s cause I’m younger and have lots of online experience and realize what happens on the internet doesn’t matter so it isn’t worth getting angry. Like I said you play any online game with pvp and someone cusses you out and then you move on and forget about it. I guess people hold more of a grudge here with that. Other than post content I couldn't say what gets other members so riled up about you. You might also consider this- this isn't a Halo lobby where you can have a crude and rude interaction and never worry about seeing that person again. We are a very, very small corner of the internet where a small group has been active for years. Many here have longstanding friendships and longer memories. You have to treat this space differently, step with a bit more care.
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