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Post by oos3thoo on Aug 6, 2008 16:23:48 GMT
I am a smoker, and it helps me think. Nicotine increases memory and over all mood. I sacrifice a little of my lung health for this boost. In martial arts, it helps me understand theory better and helps me remember Kata.
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 6, 2008 16:30:17 GMT
I smoked for thirty years. Ended up with COPD.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Aug 6, 2008 16:50:49 GMT
okay we all know smoking and drinking are bad ........ and too each his own ....... meaning as in most things in life it's a personal choise
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Post by oos3thoo on Aug 6, 2008 16:53:11 GMT
*I am no way promoting the use of tobacco*.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2008 16:56:06 GMT
Sorry to hear that Rick My Mom was a smoker for a long time and quit many years ago. She was recently diagnosed with COPD. She is frustrated by her lack of stamina. Many of the negative affects of smoking are permanent and irreversible, but some are reversible, so quit while you are ahead. And when there is a cholera outbreak I will go for antibiotics and a source of clean water - not tobacco.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2008 17:49:26 GMT
I acknowledge that as an herb, tobacco has certain medicinal qualities. However, as djmahoney pointed out, technology and modern medicine has now found better treatments for what tobacco would be used for in a medicinal sense.
Also, tobacco in a 'smoked' sense isn't now, nor has it ever been, a good thing. As I understand it, nicotine actually constricts blood vessels in the eyes and brain and can be damaging long term.
As for helping people think, I believe this is a conditioned response that is either placebo-like in nature or a dependency developed from use of the drug in the first place. Much like how with other, 'harder' drugs, people lose the ability to function normally unless they're using the drug that they've become addicted to because the body adapts to having these certain chemicals in it and basically can't work without them.
I have heard of a person (who was in public office - but this isn't about polotics) that was such an alcoholic that he drank every morning, snuck drinks throughout the day, and drank at night too. Nobody ever knew. Then, when he realized he had a problem and started trying to quit, he became irrational, angry, and exhibited all sorts of other bad behavior because his body had so gotten used to having alcohol in its bloodstream that it completely unbalanced him to have such a sudden change.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2008 20:35:49 GMT
There's smoking, and then there's smoking.
The discussion here has centered around cigarette smoking, which I will not dispute is a bad thing. I'm a cigar smoker. I try to limit myself to one cigar per day. The major difference between the two is that MOST cigar smokers, myself included, do not inhale. Like pipe smoking, the pleasure of cigar smoking is in the tasting of the smoke itself. Potentially hazardous to my health? Yes, but then, so is driving a car or cutting with a sword. I have assessed the risk and have chosen to accept it as no worse than the risks one assumes every time one gets into a car. I can live with it.
As for alcohol, I do enjoy an occasional drink (a beer, glass of wine or a little single-malt scotch), but never more than that. I haven't gotten inebriated for many, many years.
My current physical state is due to years of sitting on my arse most of the time preparing tax returns without compensating exercise. Mea maxima culpa. I'm working on fixing that.....
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Post by alvin on Aug 6, 2008 23:08:31 GMT
Your comments about cigar and pipe smoking reminded me of a newspaper report I read a number of years ago about a medical study. The study looked at three groups - non-smokers, cigarette smokers, and cigar/pipe smokers. The study found that non-smokers lived an average of 10 years longer than cigarette smokers and that cigar/pipe smokers lived an average of one year longer than non-smokers. The report surmised that cigar/pipe smokers lived longer than the non-smokers because - like you stated, cigar and pipe smokers do not tend to inhale and that these persons tend to be more relaxed as a result of the cigar/pipe smoking activity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 0:00:21 GMT
Vodka sours and Vodka with orange juice is never out of place..............a little Hennessy to kick in, and any light lager would do it good for me but also a smirnoff ice (i know *uss*) will do good too....................i randomly smoke very randomly smoke, like the last time i smoked a cigarette was like 2 1/2 years ago.............i agree with blood........if there is censorship to religion, it has to apply to all possible degrees and/or expressions to eliminate the chance of flaring up an argument or offending the multicultural background of this forum...........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 19:15:35 GMT
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that birth is the leading cause of death. Therefore, I'll have a Guinness please.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 19:45:36 GMT
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Post by alvin on Aug 7, 2008 19:50:40 GMT
I do not place confidence in any statistical "medical" studies. But, thank you for your examples and, rest assured, I'll file them away with the others.
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Post by axeman on Aug 7, 2008 20:03:45 GMT
Okay, I suspend my statement about poison concerning responsible use of alcohol. It also has some postive social aspects. When used by women it has at times made me better looking. ;D GOOD ANSWER yes we all saw that picture of you in a DRESS
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Post by rammstein on Aug 7, 2008 20:32:54 GMT
Ricwillikers doesn't need alcohol and a dress to make him pretty, he's one hawt stud for the laydeez, I'd imagine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 23:23:23 GMT
I do not place confidence in any statistical "medical" studies. But, thank you for your examples and, rest assured, I'll file them away with the others. I know what you mean, the correlation/causation thing and then adjusted results stuff... statistics adjusted epidemiological is not always what one sees in real life! (Though it can be a useful tool when considered appropriately... often I have seen epidemiological stuff that blatantly contradicts RCTs!)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 23:31:35 GMT
BFD
Smoke em if you got em, wet your whistle too why not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2008 0:22:11 GMT
I drink on occasion, socially, but I've only been "drunk" once or twice. I don't smoke cigarettes, and I don't see the need too, but I have once or twice experimented with *ahem* other plants @_@
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Post by rammstein on Aug 8, 2008 0:26:58 GMT
I'm going to assume that you mean coniferous fir trees, Sarah
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2008 0:41:31 GMT
BFD Smoke em if you got em, wet your whistle too why not. Well said, dude.
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 8, 2008 1:05:44 GMT
By all means to each their own. Far be it from me to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do. Worlds too crowded anyhow. ;D Nothing personal. What's BFD?
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