Ouroboros
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Post by Ouroboros on Aug 3, 2018 16:59:59 GMT
In my collection is a Hanwei Silver Anniversary Shinto (#114). I noticed today that the sword review index as posted contains an X beside the 25th Anniversay Shinto. I will commence taking some representative prictures of my Shinto. No, it's not the sword listed but the fit n finish would be representative of a 25th Anniversary Shinto. Enough that a viewer would be able to judge the quality of a production run (knowing they were not likely numbered sequentially upon assembly)
Thoughts?
Ouro
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Post by Deepbluedave on Aug 3, 2018 21:06:21 GMT
I can see about a dozen sword reviews that are photo-less that I have on hand, would you like the photo's added as an attachment to SBG or as a linked bb-code via a host ie Flickr.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Aug 4, 2018 1:51:35 GMT
Linked via a 3rd party is best for now.
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Post by nddave on Aug 4, 2018 5:13:43 GMT
Linked via a 3rd party is best for now. See that's what I don't get, wouldn't attachments be a solution to the problem as 3rd parties are what created the issue in the first place? I mean I've always attached the pics in my reviews and never had an issue of them being lost. In retrospect I was able to get a few pics back when my wife "accidentally" wiped our computer clean, because they were attached here and I just saved them to my pics again. |
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Aug 4, 2018 5:29:09 GMT
Uploading an attachment is what takes up space, as the forum itself has a limited amount of attachment memory which we are very close to maxing out. 3rd party host links like Imgur or, God forbid, Photobucket, don't take up forum attachment space, but there is the possibility of the hosting site pulling a Photobucket and suddenly holding your image links hostage. Right now the attachment memory maxing out is our biggest concern.
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Post by admin on Aug 4, 2018 11:26:11 GMT
Thanks for the pics , offers of help and folks working to revitalize any of the their reviews effected.
With regards to attachments, the forum has a maximum 20gig of space and it has come as close as 19.5 gig at one point, but right now I have it down to about 17.5 by transferring some images to the main site and deleting some of the old ones in the classifieds. I have also taken some steps to reduce the maximum image size, now it is a maximum of 1MB per image, which is plenty big enough for anything we would want to do on the forums. Indeed, most images work anywhere between 100-200KB, but there were quite a few listings in the classifieds which were 5MG and when people were asking to ID a sword..
The storage would not be a problem if images were resized and it was used more appropriately - for reviews its all good to use images at 1MB if you want to show details with a fairly high res pic. But often what would happen is there would be a 5MB image of the cardboard box something came in, which when you have 20 images in the review, yeah - no amount of storage will be able to keep up..
So for now, we have at least 2gig of space and I am clearing more. Just use the attachment feature sensibly - for reviews, absolutely - great use of the attachment feature as reviews benefit everyone, but for free classifieds that will become a pain for us to clean up once the item is sold, best to use 3rd party because after its sold, it doesn't really matter anymore. Hope this makes sense. :-)
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Post by demonskull on Aug 4, 2018 16:51:27 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Paul !
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Post by Verity on Aug 4, 2018 17:36:03 GMT
admin: here is a bit of an ethics question. So a couple of the very robust tutorials that Find took when he left, I actually still have. Specifically the “making a wood scabbard core” and “leather wrapping a scabbard” in PDF format. I have all the original content and pics since it is all in the PDF, however I have not (yet) followed this to do my own so can’t re-write them but they are the best tutorials on scabbard making I have seen. Ethically it might be questionable to resurrect them in their current format given the circumstances of his leaving, but I’d hate to see this content lost. How would you suggest we handle that?
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Post by admin on Aug 5, 2018 8:14:39 GMT
admin : here is a bit of an ethics question. So a couple of the very robust tutorials that Find took when he left, I actually still have. Specifically the “making a wood scabbard core” and “leather wrapping a scabbard” in PDF format. I have all the original content and pics since it is all in the PDF, however I have not (yet) followed this to do my own so can’t re-write them but they are the best tutorials on scabbard making I have seen. Ethically it might be questionable to resurrect them in their current format given the circumstances of his leaving, but I’d hate to see this content lost. How would you suggest we handle that?
We used to have this worded clearly at the bottom of every page and even though it is still in effect by default, I have added it again just now for clarity. So in theory, when he submitted it - it became the property of the forums and to benefit all members accordingly. However, ethically - I don't feel right about using it after he deleted everything. If it had already been transferred to the main site, then that's a different story - but as things stand now, I really am in two minds about it.. (because he deleted his account, I don't even know what his email address is to consult with him about it)..
On the one hand it's not good how a helpful tutorial has been ripped away leaving stickied threads that have lost all meaning. But on the other hand, because he took it all down I am guessing he did not want to share his knowledge with all of us anymore, and that is not really fair as technically it did belong to everyone when it was posted, and to rip it away is - to use an old probably extremely non PC term "Indian giving"..
Can you email me the PDF so I can have a look and think about how best to tackle it? paul AT sword-buyers-guide.com
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 5, 2018 9:02:17 GMT
I think it's like being quoted.
One can delete his post but the one who quoted it isn't obliged to delete his quote post too.
One of Dave Kelly's reviews was saved simply because someone quoted it.
There can be good reasons why some deleted stuff should be deleted, but not only because someone was pissed and erased all his posts here.
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Post by Verity on Aug 5, 2018 14:03:09 GMT
Emailed you the two PDF’s, Paul. 😊
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Aug 7, 2018 2:21:36 GMT
Hi Paul adminThe photobucket business sucks alright. I lost most of the work I put in 10-12 years ago when the forums were changing platforms. However I saved to word docs several of the significant threads I had done in the original forums when I was diarising my journey. I probably also have the pics for pretty much any post I've made. And of course always happy to donate pics of any Fable Blades to illustrate any reviews of my creations, such as the Calamacil review mentioned. VerityThe reviews for those Elven Blades and Calamacil can actually be found here with original pics: www.fableblades.com/Reviews.html though that page is hidden from my main site now, as the swords are out of date compared to my new work. We can always contact Findlithui and see if he'd mind us relisting those tutorials; they were very cool. I have his email address. Good luck all Brendan |
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Post by Verity on Aug 7, 2018 19:44:55 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 8, 2018 0:21:51 GMT
I don't have much to contribute here, but I have found that with Photobucket embeds, only the "full size" embeds are blocked by Photobucket. If the posts are edited to the thumbnail embed, they still work. At least, last I checked. Sample for testing below... Full-size:  Thumbnail:  Far as I can tell, the difference is in the second, internal link. Photobucket stacks a hyperlink into the embed, so it's the same link twice with different tags. For a thumbnail, it just adds "th_" before the image ID. For instance, the link to that image is this: s190.photobucket.com/user/randomnobody/media/IMG_20180312_235942538_zpsujxuzw9a.jpg.htmlThe wrapped thumbnail is this: i190.photobucket.com/albums/z179/randomnobody/th_IMG_20180312_235942538_zpsujxuzw9a.jpgIt won't help if the image was deleted it relocated, but if it's just blocked, that should do it. Edit: Hmm, both worked. I dunno? |
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Post by MOK on Aug 8, 2018 0:34:38 GMT
Even Photobucket themselves don't know what the flipping heck they're doing, anymore, so what hope do we have of figuring it out? It's way past time to leave that sinking ship.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 8, 2018 1:59:18 GMT
Even Photobucket themselves don't know what the flipping heck they're doing, anymore, so what hope do we have of figuring it out? It's way past time to leave that sinking ship. I can't be bothered to download everything I've uploaded. Nor is it worthwhile to me to find a new host. Other folks can do what they like; PB still works okay for my needs. |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Aug 8, 2018 3:33:49 GMT
I just use imgur. I've used it since it's inception on other forums and for saving images and haven't had any real issues with it.
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Post by Verity on Aug 8, 2018 3:38:36 GMT
I use postimg because it is designed for posting images to forums and public sites as well as explicitly states they do not impose bandwidth or space limits. 😁
(They have a reasonable per image size and pixel limit and that is it.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 3:43:36 GMT
Posted in another thread, and in another thread, and now in this thread May 22, 2018 21:57:44 GMT -4 edelweiss said: I've posted of some resolutions in the past and whomever is coding the site can write the resizing into the tables for the attachment option here. The first link here, Shrink Pic, is a free software tool easily downloaded to windows machine and can work seamlessly, or optioned, or shut off. www.onthegosoft.com/shrink_pic.htmHere is a tool offered on another board that can resize single or multiple images which can be saved as a compressed zip file www.ben-major.com/tools/usmf-resize.phpA similar and common type www.simpleimageresizer.com/upload#.WwS-g0gvy3AA somewhat clunky but sometimes useful image share from Google Drives that can be used with img tags here. sites.google.com/site/gdocs2direct/  I hate to predict doom but imgur will fail in time. It is the way of the world. Always back up files. Thumb drives are cheap and crisis have been avoided by my having several dupes of many files. I do use imgur a lot and like it but I feel a crash acomin' sooner than later The presentations by several here are no less than fantastic and honestly, there are some very active posters here that don't post many files, so it really is attention to the attachment feature that can make a huge difference. I feel though that a lot of this will still fall on deaf ears but it is hopeful to read some understand the big picture. I most often try to limit any forum uploads to less than 1mb a picture and many of my pictures taken pre 2018 were with a 3 megapixel Canon from the 2001 era. Nothing wrong with it. The largest images using it run about 1.5 mb. My new/old Sony pocket dude run with the smallest at 5mb iirc (omg). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For the administrator and techies, it is possible to add compression automatically to files being uploaded. I hate to throw down the Sword Forum International gauntlet but currently, the attachment feature there allows up to 25 images per post, all of them reduced to 100kb per image. Bladeforums is pay for play, re attachments. mYArmoury limits both physical dimension and/or file size, prompting solutions through resizing programs. vikingswords attachments only, no third party images allowed with tags, dimension and file size limitations but many uploadable per post. US Military Forum, again, no third party images allowed with tags and a per post limit of data (as many as you can fit at that limit) Their suggestion is actually catered to their needs/wants www.ben-major.com/tools/usmf-resize.php~~~~~~~~~~~~ So anyway, it is possible to code the compression tool into the SBG uploader but that's way beyond my ken nndave is exactly right that the third party images disappearing are a real issue for any archiving or stability. Hence vikingsword and the usmf board ruling that third party display of images is problematic enough that they have "banned" the use of imaging with tags. All must be uploaded or deemed useless. On a final photobucket note, Nathan @ myAmoury developed his own magic to restore as many photobucket images as he could. Maybe touch base with him. Or not. If wondering about the possibility of adding compression to your uploader, give Mark McMorrow a jingle and see if Ed Royce can help you. One thing Ed did was to put all the imaging somewhere else, which is a hurdle in and of itself but part of that packaging was coding in a compressor for the uploader routine. I could source pages and circle what I see as the routine but your tech would have a much better hand on that. Again, I agree completely with nndave, re the reviews anyway. Why keep chasing those as third party hosts eventually fail or screw us. In the mean time, always copy all your work in multiple locations (drives most importantly). Happy hunting |
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Post by Verity on Aug 8, 2018 4:17:09 GMT
Posted in another thread, and in another thread, and now in this thread May 22, 2018 21:57:44 GMT -4 edelweiss said: I've posted of some resolutions in the past and whomever is coding the site can write the resizing into the tables for the attachment option here. The first link here, Shrink Pic, is a free software tool easily downloaded to windows machine and can work seamlessly, or optioned, or shut off. www.onthegosoft.com/shrink_pic.htmHere is a tool offered on another board that can resize single or multiple images which can be saved as a compressed zip file www.ben-major.com/tools/usmf-resize.phpA similar and common type www.simpleimageresizer.com/upload#.WwS-g0gvy3AA somewhat clunky but sometimes useful image share from Google Drives that can be used with img tags here. sites.google.com/site/gdocs2direct/I hate to predict doom but imgur will fail in time. It is the way of the world. Always back up files. Thumb drives are cheap and crisis have been avoided by my having several dupes of many files. I do use imgur a lot and like it but I feel a crash acomin' sooner than later The presentations by several here are no less than fantastic and honestly, there are some very active posters here that don't post many files, so it really is attention to the attachment feature that can make a huge difference. I feel though that a lot of this will still fall on deaf ears but it is hopeful to read some understand the big picture. I most often try to limit any forum uploads to less than 1mb a picture and many of my pictures taken pre 2018 were with a 3 megapixel Canon from the 2001 era. Nothing wrong with it. The largest images using it run about 1.5 mb. My new/old Sony pocket dude run with the smallest at 5mb iirc (omg). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For the administrator and techies, it is possible to add compression automatically to files being uploaded. I hate to throw down the Sword Forum International gauntlet but currently, the attachment feature there allows up to 25 images per post, all of them reduced to 100kb per image. Bladeforums is pay for play, re attachments. mYArmoury limits both physical dimension and/or file size, prompting solutions through resizing programs. vikingswords attachments only, no third party images allowed with tags, dimension and file size limitations but many uploadable per post. US Military Forum, again, no third party images allowed with tags and a per post limit of data (as many as you can fit at that limit) Their suggestion is actually catered to their needs/wants www.ben-major.com/tools/usmf-resize.php~~~~~~~~~~~~ So anyway, it is possible to code the compression tool into the SBG uploader but that's way beyond my ken nndave is exactly right that the third party images disappearing are a real issue for any archiving or stability. Hence vikingsword and the usmf board ruling that third party display of images is problematic enough that they have "banned" the use of imaging with tags. All must be uploaded or deemed useless. On a final photobucket note, Nathan @ myAmoury developed his own magic to restore as many photobucket images as he could. Maybe touch base with him. Or not. If wondering about the possibility of adding compression to your uploader, give Mark McMorrow a jingle and see if Ed Royce can help you. One thing Ed did was to put all the imaging somewhere else, which is a hurdle in and of itself but part of that packaging was coding in a compressor for the uploader routine. I could source pages and circle what I see as the routine but your tech would have a much better hand on that. Again, I agree completely with nndave, re the reviews anyway. Why keep chasing those as third party hosts eventually fail or screw us. In the mean time, always copy all your work in multiple locations (drives most importantly). Happy hunting Ok well if you want to start tinkering with the attachment uploader there are ooodles of options. Namely Amazon S3. Storage there is dirt cheap and you can employ hot to cold storage techniques using Glacier that make it even cheaper. Why use ANY hosting tool if you go full native attachment? Throw those suckers onto S3, compression optional for the site admins to potentially save cost, and implement a hot to cold storage based on image retrieval and access that pushes things to Glacier. Just my $0.02 to fix this once and for all. |
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