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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 0:59:59 GMT
Looks awsome Brian! Is that an Albion Viceroy? Seems cool definitely.
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 7, 2008 1:13:10 GMT
first one to guess the sword gets an exalt
its not a viceroy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 1:15:45 GMT
Kris teutonic?
BTW very nice job...wow it's looks very nice.
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 7, 2008 1:18:50 GMT
Kris teutonic? BTW very nice job...wow it's looks very nice. exalt! "How did you go for time on this one?" I lost track of time
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Post by ShooterMike on Jul 7, 2008 14:42:05 GMT
Outstanding! That is some beautiful leather work. The scabbard looks perfect. Just one little pick. Gotta find a more historic-looking buckle, or just remove the roller from that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 14:56:41 GMT
I thought the first one looked nice, but this one is just astounding. Great Job.
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Post by enkidu on Jul 7, 2008 18:41:46 GMT
I'm proud to say that i'm the one who comissioned Brian for this one and for the second time in a row he simply exeeded what i had envisionned ! When i first contacted Brian about this project i though i had high demands, he just proved me he got even higher standards. IMO you just made a step further in establishing you as one of the best.
Now i cant wait to get my hands on it !
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 8, 2008 16:34:45 GMT
I always hate the part when I have to ship it off, knowing I won't see it again. When you put such passion into your work, you want to admire the finished product as long as possible.
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Post by enkidu on Jul 8, 2008 18:50:24 GMT
I'll send you pictures once a month, i swear Jokes aside i totally understand what you mean, and since you put your personal touch in your creations it must be even harder !
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jul 9, 2008 0:26:40 GMT
I know what you mean. Same with my blades. No amount of money can replace them. But you just have to be glad that some money enables you to keep doing what you love. By sharing with the world you can continue your art.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2008 1:30:28 GMT
Wow, those look amazing! I really wish I had money to spend.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2008 6:39:39 GMT
Hey brian, whats the longest sword thats comfortable/plausible with this type of integral belt design?
Is it mostly something for one handers or do longswords work too?
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 13, 2008 15:14:49 GMT
Hey brian, whats the longest sword thats comfortable/plausible with this type of integral belt design? Is it mostly something for one handers or do longswords work too? Of course your height plays a bit of a role. I stand at six foot and I'd say I could comfortably have a thirty eight inch blade, maybe even a couple more inches with this type of suspension. It still hangs at an angle from your waist. The suspension is also a little adjustable on my end as I'm constructing it, so I can make the blade hang at a slightly different angle, but once it's complete it will no longer be adjustable. I think if your sword is too long, and your swords furniture are of the larger sort, it may benefit to move up to my 2.5 point suspension system. I think more importantly with this type of suspension, is how well will the hilt section of your sword would feel up close to your waist. Of course, we may need Ramm's input on historical accuracy, as he would probably be able to provide the date range and reasons why certain suspensions were used. Of course, if historical accuracy isn't of terribly importance, go with what you feel you want the most.
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Post by rammstein on Jul 13, 2008 15:37:58 GMT
There is the issue of historical accuracy here.... The type of intergral suspension that Brian is doing is generally found on earlier swords. I'd place a VERY rough guess that it was being phased out be 1350 (That's probably off by a few years, feel free to correct it if anyone knows a better guess). Generally, you'd see this type of suspension on the more cutting oriented swords oakeshott types X-XIV probably. It's certainly possible that later swords had this type of suspension, in fact I'm not sure it would even be totally out of place on some of the later types. But I think once longswords started to get more popular the style of suspension changed. If you want to play it safe on whether or not that type of integral suspension is good for you, you'll need to find out about your longsword because some certainly would be appropriate while others might get iffy. Let's use two examples from the sub-$300 market. The Kris Cutlery war sword should fit decently but the darksword gothic would be out of place. But there were more styles than just the multi-pointed longsword suspension (what Brian is offering through his sword belts, essentially). www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=11077&highlight=longsword+scabbard+suspensionTake a look at those effigies. A single handed sword around 1400 may have looked like that. The very last picture is an example of a typical longsword suspension. Obviously nothing is as pretty as the earlier complex stuff though ;D edit: Best thing you can do to learn about this is looking through Russ Ellis' stuff, specifically his trident line: www.tritonworks.com/trident
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Post by rammstein on Jul 14, 2008 2:11:07 GMT
Hey brian, also worth pointing out:
Generally the trend is that the later the date, the more angle the sword had at the waist, meaning that early single handers were more verticle with a bit of a tilt where as some longswords and especially rapiers were almost horizontal. Exceptions abound, obviously.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jul 14, 2008 4:16:05 GMT
There is the issue of historical accuracy here.... The type of intergral suspension that Brian is doing is generally found on earlier swords. I'd place a VERY rough guess that it was being phased out be 1350 (That's probably off by a few years, feel free to correct it if anyone knows a better guess)... Hey Ramm, Just one point, small though it is... The integral suspension, or at least one belt half to front and one belt half to rear, is seen almost exclusively on effigies up until the late 1300s and early 1400s. Dan Dickinson is making me a highly researched scabbard for my Crecy. I really wanted a multi-point suspension system. But try as we might, neither of us could find a Type XVIa or anything "XVI-ish" depicted in effigies or artwork that showed anything other than the early belting style. So I am going with a something 1320-ish "man-at-arms" themed as they are a bit more nice looking that the later "two-belt-halves" look. All the effigies I could find in any of the Oakeshott books that showed multi-point suspensions were from 1420-30 onward, and showed distinctly a few XVIIs and lots of XVIIIs. But if you know of anything earlier, could you please let me know?
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 14, 2008 4:46:48 GMT
ShooterMike's scabbard complete, with hand forged chape included. It was even blued and distressed to complete the look of the scabbard. It was very tricky trying to match the grip that already came on this ATrim ShooterMike sent me. It came out darker than I wanted, but in order to get the proper blending over such length I had to over lap. Of course, pictures do not do this one justice. As the little details I put into the scabbard, and the natural colors that the camera just doesn't bring out properly are missing. I personally can't wait for Mike's reaction once he has it in his hands.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 9:37:30 GMT
Once again, amazing work.
Ramm, you seem to have good knowledge on historical accuracy.
I was asking in general, but if we specifically narrow it down to a type XIIa longsword like I have, what would you consider to be the proper suspension?
I currently have a double wrap belt, and its alright, but I'm playing with the idea of making/getting something else. Gonna use this one a little more and see if it grows on me first.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 12:55:47 GMT
Hey this one is great too! It was really nice of you and Mike to share the in progress pictures. Thanks.
Are you going to leave the buckle shiny?
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 14, 2008 13:16:12 GMT
Hey this one is great too! It was really nice of you and Mike to share the in progress pictures. Thanks. Are you going to leave the buckle shiny? Thanks guys. It was a custom ordered piece. If Mike wants me to dull it down I will, or he might choose to do that on his end.
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