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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 27, 2008 16:37:12 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 27, 2008 16:42:29 GMT
A thought just occurred to me...
Brian, would you be willing to take scabbards that deliver with swords like those from Hanwei and Gen2, utilize the scabbard core while stripping off the leather and metal hardware, and build a custom piece with leather covering, flap and integral belt as shown above?
If so, how much could the price be reduced if you don't have to build the core?
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Post by septofclansinclair on Jun 27, 2008 16:48:34 GMT
Wow, Brian, I think I speak for alot of people when I say - please quit your day job! And start doing this full time. This is seriously impressive. I wish I had $1400, $400 for your scabbard/belt and $1000 for a worthy enough sword!
*contemplates getting a second job...*
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jun 27, 2008 17:07:13 GMT
A thought just occurred to me... Brian, would you be willing to take scabbards that deliver with swords like those from Hanwei and Gen2, utilize the scabbard core while stripping off the leather and metal hardware, and build a custom piece with leather covering, flap and integral belt as shown above? If so, how much could the price be reduced if you don't have to build the core? I'm figuring about $75 would be my cost to make a wood core. But you have to figure the cost of removing the old material, and some manufacturers make it easier/difficult than others. Gen 2 leather on scabbards would be near impossible to remove without risk of ruining the wood core, but it's so thin you may as well just work over it. Removing the metal locket on the Gen 2 might crack the wood, and the chape is embedded inside the scabbard and is permanent (in fact, they use bondo on the chape). So it really depends on what you want to remove. If it risks ruining the wood core, I'm not sure I would take that risk and assuming liability. To answer your question, it would save up to $75.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 27, 2008 17:21:17 GMT
OK thanks.
So if, for instance, someone had a Gen2 Witham River Viking sword and they wanted it to actually look historically accurate, you could do a period-accurate grip wrap for the normal price of that option. Then do a scabbard covering and chape (leaving the original leather, locket and metal end plug in place), with integral leather belt for $325?
That would result in a very good handling, historic-looking Danish Viking sword circa 950, with a period accurate scabbard and belt for much less than anything comparable on the market elsewhere.
Am I wrong? Did I miss something?
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jun 27, 2008 17:29:11 GMT
OK thanks. So if, for instance, someone had a Gen2 Witham River Viking sword and they wanted it to actually look historically accurate, you could do a period-accurate grip wrap for the normal price of that option. Then do a scabbard covering and chape (leaving the original leather, locket and metal end plug in place), with integral leather belt for $325? That would result in a very good handling, historic-looking Danish Viking sword circa 950, with a period accurate scabbard and belt for much less than anything comparable on the market elsewhere. Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Yeah, that sounds about right. As long as I didn't have to remove anything it wouldn't incur any extra fee's. So that would be $75 less.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 19:19:05 GMT
oh wow that is beautiful! id say me personally 300$ because im cheap but you could easily sell for 350-400$ and if they do get custom colors or and add stuff 500$ pretty easily AWESOME WORK!
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Post by rammstein on Jun 27, 2008 22:59:03 GMT
$300-400 is my opinion. Brian I see now that quality is most certainly over the price I said over PM, so my apologies for that. $400 my be a bit steep, but I don't think you'd have any problems selling your product - it's beautiful, well made, and I assume as durable is any other period accurate scabbard (just don't sit down on it!). And I can see you put a LOT of effort into research
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 0:29:38 GMT
Dang it, now I have to save up even more money before I send my del tin over to ya since it looks like I'm gonna need a scabbard along with that re-grip .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 5:35:49 GMT
I'd be willing to around $300, maybe a little more... but I am a cheap bastard and I am sure you could get more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 17:32:12 GMT
OK thanks. So if, for instance, someone had a Gen2 Witham River Viking sword and they wanted it to actually look historically accurate, you could do a period-accurate grip wrap for the normal price of that option. Then do a scabbard covering and chape (leaving the original leather, locket and metal end plug in place), with integral leather belt for $325? That would result in a very good handling, historic-looking Danish Viking sword circa 950, with a period accurate scabbard and belt for much less than anything comparable on the market elsewhere. Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Brian has been doing this for quiet some time! I've sent two swords to him to have their scabbards re upolostered. One of them has a custom suspension. This is how he started out the business! He does a great job at it too. I asked him if he could do an integral/ wrap around belt for my last commission but as he noted, it would not be a good idea due to the size of the sword. The scabbard would drag on the ground. Just though I should note that. Oh yes Brian, excellent job. I'd say $350-$400 is a a fair prices for the scabbard alone. You want to keep the prices high but not to high. At least, that is how I would. I'd say $380 starting for a scabbard like that.
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jun 28, 2008 19:54:43 GMT
After discussion and opinion from everyone I've decided on a price of $400 for what you see pictured. Anything above and beyond that can incur extra charges.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 29, 2008 21:06:04 GMT
OK thanks. So if, for instance, someone had a Gen2 Witham River Viking sword and they wanted it to actually look historically accurate, you could do a period-accurate grip wrap for the normal price of that option. Then do a scabbard covering and chape (leaving the original leather, locket and metal end plug in place), with integral leather belt for $325? That would result in a very good handling, historic-looking Danish Viking sword circa 950, with a period accurate scabbard and belt for much less than anything comparable on the market elsewhere. Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Brian has been doing this for quiet some time! I've sent two swords to him to have their scabbards re upolostered. One of them has a custom suspension. This is how he started out the business! He does a great job at it too. I asked him if he could do an integral/ wrap around belt for my last commission but as he noted, it would not be a good idea due to the size of the sword. The scabbard would drag on the ground. Just though I should note that... Well... not exactly. I've seen Brian's work gussying up the Gen2 and VA Practical scabbards with colored suede what not. But I've never seen one where the work I described was done. Maybe I missed one? But I don't think so... It seems like a different level and appreciably more detailed and expensive to turn one of these Gen2 or VA Practical scabbards into a period-looking version of an original. Just my thoughts...
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jun 29, 2008 23:13:58 GMT
Mike would be right. What I've done before was a lot more simple to keep the cost down. Cost of what you see - (not counting the grip) $110 for the suspension + $60 for the scabbard cover = $170 www.dbkcustomswords.com/images/DSA/DSAGothSJB1024.jpgWhat Mike is referring to is doing the historical leather work with a complex suspension system over the old scabbard that the sword came with for $325
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Post by Razor on Jun 30, 2008 5:57:05 GMT
Awesome work Brian +1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 14:11:39 GMT
I'm not in your target market, but I have to say that I have come back to this thread a few times just to look That is very fine craftsmanship, really lovely. Edit: Sorry, I got carried away
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 2, 2008 3:33:01 GMT
Hey thanks guys. It's nice to hear such compliments with so much hard work being put into it.
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jul 6, 2008 22:59:23 GMT
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Post by rammstein on Jul 6, 2008 23:48:18 GMT
SOOOOOO SEXY!
+1, words can't express how cool that is...
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jul 7, 2008 0:29:39 GMT
I don't think anyones going to be dissing that. Top stuff! +1
How did you go for time on this one?
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