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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 5, 2017 22:29:33 GMT
Crom!
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Post by Verity on Dec 5, 2017 22:37:01 GMT
Don’t skip the Atrim XIIa.4. That sword is a beauty and the beast in one. I have handled and used a LOT of swords over the years and that sword sits at nearly the top if not THE top of nicest handling swords I have EVER used. And c’mon... a sweet spot over 12” long from just forward of halfway point to like 3-4” from the TIP. That is just NUTS it all comes down to what Crom wills I don’t see Crom disagreeing. Gus DEFINITELY has solved the riddle of steel.... Now... FINDING a XIIa.4... that is a whole different story... people don’t sell them usually... there IS a big reason for that... Generally the response is “my preciouuuuuus” (I know mine is NEVER being sold. I shall be the last owner of Blackwater while I draw breath)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 22:43:51 GMT
You guys are crazy......sword crazy! Haha!
For me, can a battle ready sword pass the "display worthy" test. It will be so cool, to see my swords on display in cases on the walls, and be able to open the display door, handle the sword and put it back in the case. Sort of like having your own "hands on" sword museum.
The more I learn about medieval swords, the more I want to focus on Albions, Atrims, and commissions from masters like brotherbanzai. But, you got to have some fun "beater" swords too.
Eventually, I will own an Albion Atlantean for sure.
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Post by Verity on Dec 5, 2017 22:53:05 GMT
You guys are crazy......sword crazy! Haha! For me, can a sword pass the "display worthy" test. It will be so cool, to see my swords on display in cases on the walls, and be able to open the display door, handle the sword and put it back in the case. Sort of like having your own "hands on" sword museum. The more I learn about medieval swords, the more I want to focus on Albions, Atrims, and commissions from masters like brotherbanzai. But, you got to have some fun "beater" swords too. Eventually, I will own an Albion Atlantean for sure. I have JUST such a sword Museum. (Have you seen my collection thread? Especially the bottom part of the post where I show how I have them displayed?) Buuut... I like swords that are both beautiful and function as a sword should (or better than they have a right to...) Got rid of my SLOs long ago... nothing wrong with those that enjoy them but my personal preference is to know every sword can be used (whether I choose to or not; as I refuse to cut with my Nihonto or other antiques). Have a few “beaters” too.
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Post by Faldarin on Dec 5, 2017 22:54:34 GMT
You guys are crazy......sword crazy! Haha! For me, can a sword pass the "display worthy" test. It will be so cool, to see my swords on display in cases on the walls, and be able to open the display door, handle the sword and put it back in the case. Sort of like having your own "hands on" sword museum. The more I learn about medieval swords, the more I want to focus on Albions, Atrims, and commissions from masters like brotherbanzai. But, you got to have some fun "beater" swords too. Eventually, I will own an Albion Atlantean for sure. You're ending up in a familiar place to me. It's a good place imo - not so good for your wallet, unfortunately. I imagine I can second Verity's comments on the XIIa.4 - I've never handled one myself - but I have cut with two different Gus-designed type XIIa swords. You can make an argument for neither of them being 'true' ATrims - one being less, one being more than just. But if XIIa swords DO strike your fancy, can't go wrong with at least ONE ATrim.
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Post by Verity on Dec 5, 2017 23:02:00 GMT
You guys are crazy......sword crazy! Haha! For me, can a sword pass the "display worthy" test. It will be so cool, to see my swords on display in cases on the walls, and be able to open the display door, handle the sword and put it back in the case. Sort of like having your own "hands on" sword museum. The more I learn about medieval swords, the more I want to focus on Albions, Atrims, and commissions from masters like brotherbanzai. But, you got to have some fun "beater" swords too. Eventually, I will own an Albion Atlantean for sure. You're ending up in a familiar place to me. It's a good place imo - not so good for your wallet, unfortunately. I imagine I can second Verity's comments on the XIIa.4 - I've never handled one myself - but I have cut with two different Gus-designed type XIIa swords. You can make an argument for neither of them being 'true' ATrims - one being less, one being more than just. :) But if XIIa swords DO strike your fancy, can't go wrong with at least ONE ATrim. I keep telling you Fal, come by and you can try an XIIa.4... or PeaceLily, or my Master Sword(s), or Winter Warden, either of my other two Atrims besides the XIIa.4... You get the idea... My opinion: if you are ONLY gonna own one XIIa... it should be an Atrim XIIa.4 😜
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 5, 2017 23:04:28 GMT
My way of approaching is this: First buy the good cheapos and look what you can learn of them, then buy the gems if you really feel the need to do so still. You don't spend too much money this way first and perhaps you make less expensive mistakes with the upper class (coach, coach) swords. H/Ts are great to feel the handling of a medieval sword. The MRL Atlantean is a good slo to get the feeling of such a heavy fantasy sword and mine doesn't look bad. I don't have the wish to buy an upgrade yet.
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Post by Verity on Dec 5, 2017 23:11:37 GMT
My way of approaching is this: First buy the good cheapos and look what you can learn of them, then buy the gems if you really feel the need to do so still. You don't spend too much money this way first and perhaps you make less expensive mistakes with the upper class (coach, coach) swords. H/Ts are great to feel the handling of a medieval sword. The MRL Atlantean is a good slo to get the feeling of such a heavy fantasy sword and mine doesn't look bad. I still don't have the wish to buy an upgrade. Agreed. I started inexpensive first. I never thought I would like longswords, bastard swords and war swords better than arming swords. I always liked the look of XII’s though before I even knew who Oakeshott even was... Come to find, while I have a couple arming swords, they don’t sing to me as much as their larger brethren. Bastard, long and war swords for the win. Liking Katana was a safe bet and held true. That all said... even for someone new, recommending an Atrim is a safe bet IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 23:13:07 GMT
My way of approaching is this: First buy the good cheapos and look what you can learn of them, then buy the gems if you really feel the need to do so still. You don't spend too much money this way first and perhaps you make less expensive mistakes with the upper class (coach, coach) swords. H/Ts are great to feel the handling of a medieval sword. The MRL Atlantean is a good slo to get the feeling of such a heavy fantasy sword and mine doesn't look bad. I don't have the wish to buy an upgrade yet. I second this beaver’s opinion EDIT: I am so sorry. I typed AndiTheBarvarian without the @ and it got auto-corrected. Gonna leave it there though.
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Post by stormmaster on Dec 5, 2017 23:14:29 GMT
i want to get a mrl atlantean also, but then i would have the urge to have a scabbard made for it and then price suddenly doubles lol
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 5, 2017 23:22:33 GMT
Asad, did you ever try to get a Pakistani custom sword already? We had a thread about a cheap Pakistani "slo" recently that wasn't so bad, eventually a real sword. I thought of you and your sword importing problems. Perhaps you can find a maker that can make an acceptable sword for you.
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Post by Verity on Dec 5, 2017 23:32:22 GMT
Asad, did you ever try to get a Pakistani custom sword already? We had a thread about a cheap Pakistani "slo" recently that wasn't so bad, eventually a real sword. I thought of you and your sword importing problems. Perhaps you can find a maker that can make an acceptable sword for you. I actually bought a Pakimascus bare blade for a project. I’ll be doing the hilt. In fairness while I cannot attest to its “true” performance. The flex seems to indicate at least a passable HT. I don’t have RhC files so I cannot check actual hardness. By the time I’m done at least sword construction will be “battle ready” even if I cannot 100% vouch for the blade. But seems decent enough. Thinking of polishing the blade some and re-etching since the etch to bring out the pattern weld is a bit “extreme”... but a nice little fantasy smallsword / short-rapier type thing. Plan to post a whole thread when I get going on the project in earnest. Punchline: some of the “no man’s land” blades DO have some okay stuff.
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Post by bebut on Dec 5, 2017 23:37:10 GMT
I have bought several this year and need time to evaluate them. Also I plan to get more experience in cleaning, sharpening, and restoring. At least one sword in 2018, probably a short sword in the $300-500 range and a few daggers.
I bought an Argentine m1909 at a cost of less than many replicas and will be looking for some other original bargains.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 5:10:14 GMT
Storm - For me, to be as authentic as possible, I would like to own one of the prop swords used in the movie or at least an Albion Atlantean that was made when Jody Samson was an Albion employee, personally overseeing Atlantean production. You know those are mega costly and we would not dare use them. What's nice about the Windlass version is, it looks good, affordability, and tempered steel blade that we can use. Therefore, I would own the Windlass version even if I already had an original. Scabbard? The movie version made the sword look like a rabbit fur ball! Haha! Verity - Yes, ATrim XIIa.4 is a must have sooner or later. Yes, I commented on your displays...that should be in my house and office! haha! Yes, meant to say, battle ready swords that are display worthy. Except for antiques. Which eventually I will own several medieval and japenese antique swords, as the crown jewels of my collection. Note: Just checked Angus Trim's Facebook page. He is making and selling his swords again. He stated that his goal for next year is to make approx. 80 long swords! He recently went to a sword event and was selling 3 long swords at the event for $1100 each with a 10% discount if paid in cash. If I can actually order a sword from the man himself, I will do so next year. Fald -. I would have included Valiant Armory, but I am going to wait to see your sword review. Andi - Leave it to Beaver! Haha!...eh. Asad - I third the Beavers opinion. Hehe!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 6, 2017 6:56:05 GMT
"AndiTheBeavarian": Auto-correct: ... and now back to topic! Perhaps in 2018 I'll buy a beaver, ah dammit, a beater, if I find a modern hilted Chinese straight saber.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 7:30:28 GMT
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Post by Ifrit on Dec 6, 2017 8:47:06 GMT
I am hoping to have a buckler by christmas, and if that goes well, then I will be slowly building up armour in 2018
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Post by SandStormZA on Dec 6, 2017 9:17:22 GMT
If I find a better job, then hopefully I can start buying synthetic HEMA swords. I've had the Blackfencer Feders, Longswords, and curved sabres on my wishlist for a long time. My biggest problem is shipping; the cost of getting a sword to South Africa could basically buy me another sword.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 10:35:28 GMT
Well guys, if you ask someone who knows about blades even a little, will NOT recommend you get them. The ok enough blades are above $100 in our currency and most of the people who have epic blades either have ways to f*** the System or just make their own blades. The guy who made the bow for me (full metal, aluminum riser and tempered carbon steel limbs) made his own katana. Other than some slight issue with polish, he has the process pat down.
The bow itself is very good and sturdy, but needs a little DIY to make it presentable. Will do a review once my target arrives.
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Post by pete085 on Dec 6, 2017 12:06:45 GMT
I want to buy these
1) Odachi 2) Viking Age Sword 3)Messer/Falcon type Blade
Maybe also another chinese dao. I have the Hanwei oxtail dao already but also want a Liuyedao.
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