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Post by ashesndust on Apr 11, 2017 10:34:54 GMT
Greetings All,
My name is Steven and I live in the land Down Under where we ride kangaroos to work and carefully avoid ferocious drop bears.
I love collecting shiny objects but more importantly, I like my objects to be sharp and pointy. I am putting together a collection of swords, knives and bows.
***Begin Nanny State Rant***
Guns here require licences and semi autos are banned. The laws and licencing of other weapons like pistols are so extreme that it is not worth considering. Police are allowed to inspect your home at any time to ensure storage requirements are met. We cannot even import daggers or karambits here but swords are completely legal and unregulated . . . for now, go figure. We cant own a bullet proof vest or even pepper spray. Wearing something that stops bullets would impede our gun packing police force from shooting us down if they feel the situation calls for it. Of course, I know, the police are of a higher moral standard than us mere hoi poloi so they should be the only ones allowed to carry weapons . . . *sarcasm intended*
***Rant Over***
On a lighter note, this looks like great platform with heaps of very good information with interesting and passionate (sometimes fiery even) enthusiasts. My kind of folks. I'd like spend some time here if you will have me. Looking forward to lots interwebs hi jinks and exchange of ideas.
Cheers to all.
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Post by Scott on Apr 11, 2017 11:17:01 GMT
Welcome again! Where are you in Australia?
Daggers can be imported but you need to get approval from the police and give the appropriate form to customs. Personally I can't be stuffed doing the paperwork...
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Post by ashesndust on Apr 11, 2017 11:24:00 GMT
Yes . . . I guess my original statement could be reworded. The form in Queensland has to include permission from the police for a category M weapon (section 7A) as I understand it. As you say, who could be stuffed? Thanks Scott for the welcome. Without getting too specific, am in the outback, south west QLD. The Maranoah river goes through my closest town  . |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 11, 2017 11:25:11 GMT
Hello Steven and welcome to the forum! Is there a form to submit a request for another form? (There's a funny song about in germany) |
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Post by ashesndust on Apr 11, 2017 11:26:29 GMT
Hello Steven and welcome to the forum. Thanks Andi! |
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Post by ashesndust on Apr 11, 2017 11:33:42 GMT
Is there a form to submit a request for another form? (There's a funny song about in germany) HAHA! i can imagine it . You guys are legendary for mountains of paperwork. |
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Post by Scott on Apr 12, 2017 4:27:11 GMT
Yes . . . I guess my original statement could be reworded. The form in Queensland has to include permission from the police for a category M weapon (section 7A) as I understand it. As you say, who could be stuffed? Thanks Scott for the welcome. Without getting too specific, am in the outback, south west QLD. The Maranoah river goes through my closest town . I could be wrong here as I'm not in Queensland so not familiar with the law there, but I think a category M licence is only needed for a weapon that is prohibited such as an automatic opening knife, and the storage requirements are the same as for a firearm. Here in NSW there is no restriction on owning a double edged dagger, but I can't import one without doing the paperwork. I can buy one over the counter and carry it home on the train, go figure. |
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Post by Scott on Apr 12, 2017 4:27:55 GMT
Is there a form to submit a request for another form? (There's a funny song about in germany) If only it were that simple... |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 12, 2017 4:31:22 GMT
This was only the song's title! We win !!! |
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Post by pgandy on Apr 12, 2017 5:42:18 GMT
Welcome to the forum ashesndust. You failed to mention blowpipes and shurikens. At one time I considered moving to Australia. Great country but glad that I reconsidered, we wouldn’t get along.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Apr 12, 2017 6:05:14 GMT
Welcome aboard!
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Post by stopped1 on Apr 12, 2017 6:40:03 GMT
Yes . . . I guess my original statement could be reworded. The form in Queensland has to include permission from the police for a category M weapon (section 7A) as I understand it. As you say, who could be stuffed? Thanks Scott for the welcome. Without getting too specific, am in the outback, south west QLD. The Maranoah river goes through my closest town . I could be wrong here as I'm not in Queensland so not familiar with the law there, but I think a category M licence is only needed for a weapon that is prohibited such as an automatic opening knife, and the storage requirements are the same as for a firearm. Here in NSW there is no restriction on owning a double edged dagger, but I can't import one without doing the paperwork. I can buy one over the counter and carry it home on the train, go figure. Thats what customs wants you to think.... customs won't release a dagger unless you present them with b709 form from state police that says you can have it. In wa I had to apply for a b709 for dagger (super quick, done online free, got it in the post in a week). I live in nsw now, even easier, there is a form called b709x form which is already filled in by nsw pol to confirm no license required. All you do is download the b709x, email it to seller and ask them to attach to package. If they dont, it will be held at customs n you will get a letter to ask you to send a b709x, you send it thru, they release it. Not that hard for a nice dagger. I import gun parts all the time, those require a different b709 form (must be applied for) and even then I only spend 10min more per order. Edit: download this and ask seller to attach to package if you are in nsw. www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0020/361361/B709X_N160371_NSW_2016-2017.pdf |
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Post by stopped1 on Apr 12, 2017 6:56:46 GMT
Greetings All, Guns here require licences and semi autos are banned. The laws and licencing of other weapons like pistols are so extreme that it is not worth considering. Police are allowed to inspect your home at any time to ensure storage requirements are met. Cheers to all. . I could be wrong but qld has some of the better gun laws in aus. While no semi auto/pump and no carrying is a little excessive, I dont necessary think enforcing people to join a club and shoot 6 times a year is too much to ask. That's hardly enough to keep us proficient with our guns. Being a martial guy and a pistol australia safety trainer (ie I do that for free) I like to think people should learn to use their weapons properly, even just for fun. Don't have to agree with me because i am baised (I know that). Welcome to the forum, they are nice here |
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Post by Scott on Apr 12, 2017 7:43:22 GMT
I could be wrong here as I'm not in Queensland so not familiar with the law there, but I think a category M licence is only needed for a weapon that is prohibited such as an automatic opening knife, and the storage requirements are the same as for a firearm. Here in NSW there is no restriction on owning a double edged dagger, but I can't import one without doing the paperwork. I can buy one over the counter and carry it home on the train, go figure. Thats what customs wants you to think.... customs won't release a dagger unless you present them with b709 form from state police that says you can have it. In wa I had to apply for a b709 for dagger (super quick, done online free, got it in the post in a week). I live in nsw now, even easier, there is a form called b709x form which is already filled in by nsw pol to confirm no license required. All you do is download the b709x, email it to seller and ask them to attach to package. If they dont, it will be held at customs n you will get a letter to ask you to send a b709x, you send it thru, they release it. Not that hard for a nice dagger. I import gun parts all the time, those require a different b709 form (must be applied for) and even then I only spend 10min more per order. Edit: download this and ask seller to attach to package if you are in nsw. www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0020/361361/B709X_N160371_NSW_2016-2017.pdfOk that's gotten simpler since the last time I looked into it. Thanks! Oh, and I was aware of the b709 (thought it was 709b though) but thought there was more mucking around involved to get it through. |
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Post by ashesndust on Apr 12, 2017 11:28:35 GMT
I could be wrong but qld has some of the better gun laws in aus. While no semi auto/pump and no carrying is a little excessive, I dont necessary think enforcing people to join a club and shoot 6 times a year is too much to ask. That's hardly enough to keep us proficient with our guns. Being a martial guy and a pistol australia safety trainer (ie I do that for free) I like to think people should learn to use their weapons properly, even just for fun. Don't have to agree with me because i am baised (I know that). Welcome to the forum, they are nice here Well I sort of agree but . . . If I spend the time to be highly skilled with a hand gun then I get the dubious privilege of owning it, never carrying it, keeping it locked in a gun safe separate from the bullets which are locked up somewhere else and the police can come to my door at any time to inspect storage. Not much joy there. A gun is a weapon as far as I am concerned and in a crisis it should be practically usable. Gun safe sure, but with the bullets so it can be accessed quickly and used if necessary. If I am properly trained in the use of firearms and I am a responsible citizen then I should have as much right to carry as those paragons of morality and virtue, the police. Policing, it is said, is a community responsibility. So the community in Aus has the responsibility but not the means to defend or protect. We can't even realistically have an EDC knife for protection. Self-defence as a reason to carry is specifically excluded by legislation. Why are the means to defend oneself or protect others in a crisis anathema for the common man? Anyhoo . . . Thanks for all the welcomes peoples! Shouldn't we be talking about swords or something  |
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Post by stopped1 on Apr 12, 2017 11:42:38 GMT
Ok that's gotten simpler since the last time I looked into it. Thanks! Oh, and I was aware of the b709 (thought it was 709b though) but thought there was more mucking around involved to get it through. Yeah, think they got sick and tired of issuing B709 for things that we can buy freely in NSW..... I must have costed them $50 a year on wages and postage (remember, it issued free of charge), plus customs holding it knowing that you WILL get a B709 for dagger.... this is a sensible move. Only if thy will allow chain whip, sling shot with brace and Airsoft guns, I will be happy |
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Post by ashesndust on Apr 12, 2017 11:53:19 GMT
This joint may need an 'Aussie Pub' section where we can sink some ales and chew the fat. Seems to be a number of us in here. Who would have thought?
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Post by stopped1 on Apr 12, 2017 12:08:33 GMT
Isn't the founder of SBG an Aussie? Edit: Just checked the SBG (non forum part) "I'm Paul Southren, originally from Adelaide in South Australia - your host and chief editor of SBG." No we better take it easy on the Adelaide jokes |
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Post by ashesndust on Apr 12, 2017 12:16:57 GMT
HAHA! Really? I had no idea. Well there you go, you learn something everyday . |
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Post by Faldarin on Apr 12, 2017 12:17:02 GMT
Welcome, Steven! And indeed - Paul Southren, founder of SBG is an Aussie.  There are a lot of us from all over the world here though. |
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