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Post by darth on Sept 23, 2016 3:30:27 GMT
So who here has Cutlasses and Hangers ( And oh the debate about them being the same, being different. Screw it, I like Hunting swords, Hangers, Cutlasses, all are sexy)
Antiques from the 18th and 19th century, good reproductions. Please Tell me about your weapons.
After the next purchase of an offhand weapon, a Hanger, or Cutlass or Hunting sword is on my radar.
A Cutlass/ Hanger is an instant fit with my main living art of Arnis and is actually a viable carry option in my state.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 23, 2016 3:51:12 GMT
What's the length cutoff your place of living says is a cutlass?
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Post by bfoo2 on Sept 23, 2016 3:58:50 GMT
There were a few reviews of the Cold Steel "Hybrid" cutlass a while back. I believe most of what was said also applies to the CS 1917 cutlass repro (which uses the same blade and grips, I believe). I know Afoo has a repro briquette from Empire Costume. I've handled it and it's a nifty, fast handling cutter. Also, it's a bit shorter than the standard cutlass lengths, so it may be better suited to your state's carry laws. Although I'm not sure the brass-and-leather "bling" look is what you're going for  Personally, I'm a fan of sword bayonets. They're easy to carry and can often be had for less than $150USD |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 23, 2016 4:50:15 GMT
Fench Yataghan Style bayonets are cool looking, long and nifty and also - plentiful and usually pretty well priced. I like the sabre briquets of the 19th century.
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Post by darth on Sept 23, 2016 5:39:11 GMT
No state length restrictions on swords or blades as long as they are openly carried. Now I'll probably not rutinly carry one but I can see times when I;d want to because I can ect, et all.
But clearly one of the reason's swords fell out as common weapons while knives did not even though a sword is better than a knife in a fight is because they can be a hassle to wear. Well a shorter blade, like 26" to 22" gives you enough blade to have sword but not enough to be knocking stuff over when you walk buy.
I've taken walks with my Bavarian Infantry sword, weight's not an issue but length is. the blade is about 31.5".
So a hanger/hunting sword on the heavy side, a Cutlass on the lighter side, about 24-27".
I've handled the CS and I do not like it. Sharpened crobar, to damn thick. I might get the CS Cutlass machete for semprinis and giggle because it's cheap and it will make crap chores fun.
No, not CS.
Afoo might tell me more about his little French beauty? How did it fell as a thruster? If it's on the light side for a cutlass than I'd like it to hang over towards Hanger/Hunting sword land and be a good stabber. Shorter swords are more forgiven of tip geometry when it comes to stabbing things. You have to have a feel for the tool and maybe pierce some things with it.
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Post by darth on Sept 23, 2016 5:43:47 GMT
Fench Yataghan Style bayonets are cool looking, long and nifty and also - plentiful and usually pretty well priced. I like the sabre briquets of the 19th century. I''ll look into them. Thanks. |
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Post by Razor on Sept 23, 2016 7:04:52 GMT
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Post by darth on Sept 23, 2016 9:19:34 GMT
I like that sword. Simple, right to it. I got two cheap ( real cheap) wooden cutlasses today. Look just like that, same size. Razor, how is the handle on it? Is it round or is there a little bit of an ovoid for holding your edge alignment? It looks like a good amby tool, for those of use who like to train our offhand and such. Something says if Razor is very happy with it, it cuts like a chainsaw on funny car fuel. |
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Post by darth on Sept 23, 2016 9:45:28 GMT
Just watched the vid review on that. If it's not BS, that sword just shot up the ranks and an offhand dirk/dagger might get bumped till after a cutlass.
It's light enough to incorporate into Arnis movements with my Saber in my right and this in my left.
The other top contender, the Windlass Scottish Cutlass, is over 3 lbs. I'd call this a hanger even though it's cutlassy looking, she's not that cav sword weight short sword many categorise cutlasses as, but one would reckon a Cutlass was worn less and a hanger might be worn all day. You may trade in that dismembering aiding weight for something that still takes limbs out of action and stabs well.
I can always beef up a guard or basketise it, but it's harder to subtract weight from a piece.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 16:46:10 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 23, 2016 16:49:44 GMT
The Ritter Steel Pirate cutlass looks okay, like a well worn easily customized sword. If the massive nut is any indication, looks like a pretty beefy tang too. kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=2050 |
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Post by Razor on Sept 23, 2016 16:51:55 GMT
I have been eyeing this hanger and debating on getting it. I talked with KOA about it and asked who made it, they told me that they don't know who makes them but they look like Indian made. |
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Post by Razor on Sept 23, 2016 16:58:15 GMT
I like that sword. Simple, right to it. I got two cheap ( real cheap) wooden cutlasses today. Look just like that, same size. Razor, how is the handle on it? Is it round or is there a little bit of an ovoid for holding your edge alignment? It looks like a good amby tool, for those of use who like to train our offhand and such. Something says if Razor is very happy with it, it cuts like a chainsaw on funny car fuel. The grip is round on the pommel half and flattens out at the guard, I have no problems with edge alignment with it. I wouldn't use this hanger as a second hand weapon, I would use the Windlass D-Guard Bowie, shell guard daggers, that new German hanger, or something similar to any of these. |
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Sept 23, 2016 18:13:07 GMT
I was outbid this week on an ebay Spanish briquet... I didn't get to snipe and it went for like $110. Sad.
CS Hybrid is a little unwieldy, but repro briquets seem similar or slightly heavier with similar POB. Maybe I'm missing something.
I decided last week that a barong machete with a knucklebow is even better than a cutlass. Range suffers, but utility jumps up and can be drawn with either hand in reverse or standard grips. The 18" blade still seems long enough for cutlass style fencing and ripostes. Ferocious cutter. Bent handle seems to help with point work. Mine's ugly, but a prettier one could be made from a TFW or KCB piece.
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Post by pgandy on Sept 23, 2016 18:16:26 GMT
I thought of this but let it pass until Razor mentioned a Windlass D-Guard Bowie. It’s a little shorter than a cutlass/hanger but will make a fine piece to carry on the trail. Mine feels like a short cutlass to me. Below is a mine after sharpening the false edge and then a video. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/47725/reworking-windlass-guard-bowie-knife If you do a YouTube search with “Windlass D-Guard” you will come up with several videos including Razor whacking away eliminating numerous vicious bottles. Here’s one to get you started. |
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Post by Razor on Sept 23, 2016 19:33:49 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Sept 23, 2016 19:56:31 GMT
Your review played a big part in me following suite and I saved it for a long time. Now that I wanted it I couldn’t find it in my files nor in the forum.
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Post by howler on Sept 23, 2016 21:01:32 GMT
A veritable grave yard of lifeless plastic demons (who call themselves water bottles) at your feet. I'll have to look at this thing. |
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Post by Afoo on Sept 24, 2016 1:36:28 GMT
No state length restrictions on swords or blades as long as they are openly carried. Now I'll probably not rutinly carry one but I can see times when I;d want to because I can ect, et all. But clearly one of the reason's swords fell out as common weapons while knives did not even though a sword is better than a knife in a fight is because they can be a hassle to wear. Well a shorter blade, like 26" to 22" gives you enough blade to have sword but not enough to be knocking stuff over when you walk buy. I've taken walks with my Bavarian Infantry sword, weight's not an issue but length is. the blade is about 31.5". So a hanger/hunting sword on the heavy side, a Cutlass on the lighter side, about 24-27". I've handled the CS and I do not like it. Sharpened crobar, to damn thick. I might get the CS Cutlass machete for poops and giggle because it's cheap and it will make crap chores fun. No, not CS. Afoo might tell me more about his little French beauty? How did it fell as a thruster? If it's on the light side for a cutlass than I'd like it to hang over towards Hanger/Hunting sword land and be a good stabber. Shorter swords are more forgiven of tip geometry when it comes to stabbing things. You have to have a feel for the tool and maybe pierce some things with it. Its a cutter by nature - has a very broad blade, though the clipped point does look nasty. The guard is kinda thin and the grip is meh - not sure how it would fair in a tactical situation. As a piece of bling though it is superb. The other thing going for it is that it is the only really short-sword I have seen which has distal taper. The blade itself handles very nicely - just the rest of it seems to be more bling than battle. As a caveat, I am looking to sell it once I get pictures. I am trying to be impartial with my feedback here, and hopefully I have succeeded. I'll give it to you for $75 plus shipping (I am in Canada - estimate around $35) if you are interested :P Review is here. My image hosting service is carp, so will have to fix those links (yet again) soon. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/47457/empire-costume-imperial-guard-briquet?page=1&scrollTo=653564Original item page: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=WES1062&name=Napoleonic+French+Imperial+Guard+BriquetThe Devil's Edge xiphos might also be a good second choice. It does look nice. Skall did a review and found that the design and build quality was good, though durability of that thin blade was lacking. Seems like they had some QC issues with tempering. Can try to ask KoA to make sure the blade is okay before sending it or hope that they fixed the issues. A bit of a risk perhaps, but it just looks so nice..... www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AK001Skall's review: A third option is an artillery short sword - the Prussian 1873 comes to mind. I have one (well, had - bfoo2 has it now). Its a nice, tough little thing. Solid through and through, and very Germanic. Its an intermediate between a Cutlass and a full fledged Infantry Officers sword in my mind - it handles miles better than the former, but has more utilitarian appeal than the later. Good examples can be had for around 200-300 usd. Also, the D-guard is nice because it does not stick out and get in the way while wearing, but its still sturdy enough that you can give someone a good sucker punch with it Review article here: sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/46537/last-1796s-prussian-artillery-swords |
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Post by Pogo4321 on Sept 24, 2016 2:15:51 GMT
Ah, cutlasses! Now you're talking my language. Own many of the various windlass models. Solid blades, but handle construction can be a bit iffy. Had grips and guard bits shift on me. Epoxy it all together, though and you're good. Razor's Hanwei was mine. Had him sharpen it for me and never got it back. :) Found a hanwei VOC cutlass--same blade fancy brass basket. Sweet sword. BKS though are where it's at for tough cutlasses right now as far as I'm concerned. You might want to look at the 1917 cutlass arms2armor.com/Swords/1917var1.htm There are a few repros--the CS is half good; can't speak for the others. Originals can be had for a good price. |
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