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Post by Razor on Sept 24, 2016 4:14:38 GMT
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Post by Razor on Sept 24, 2016 4:22:47 GMT
Ah, cutlasses! Now you're talking my language. Own many of the various windlass models. Solid blades, but handle construction can be a bit iffy. Had grips and guard bits shift on me. Epoxy it all together, though and you're good. Razor's Hanwei was mine. Had him sharpen it for me and never got it back. :) Found a hanwei VOC cutlass--same blade fancy brass basket. Sweet sword. BKS though are where it's at for tough cutlasses right now as far as I'm concerned. You might want to look at the 1917 cutlass arms2armor.com/Swords/1917var1.htm There are a few repros--the CS is half good; can't speak for the others. Originals can be had for a good price. That tells you how much I liked the Hanwei hanger. It's not like I just never gave it back, we did a trade. I'm also left handed so I have don't have a lot of options when it comes with cutlass and sabers. I second the BKS cutlasses. I also want to get my hands on a Olde Town Forge cutlass, I have one of his hawks and that is my favorite hawk. Pogo, has or had this one and I liked it too, but it's right hand only. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=NS004&name=1775+British+Officer+Saber |
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Post by darth on Sept 24, 2016 13:21:00 GMT
Damn Razor, we'd probably get along real well, we seem to like a lot of the same stuff. I have been looking at that D-Guard. Yes, that;s one of the 4 contenders for my next knife purchase. The Hanger I want more for itself and I;d use knives and stuff offhand with that. I am getting a repo Remington .44 revolver in January ( .44 for turning 44~), that D-guard would go good with it. |
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Post by pgandy on Sept 24, 2016 15:28:02 GMT
I am getting a repo Remington .44 revolver in January ( .44 for turning 44~), that D-guard would go good with it. I have such a repro and it’s one of the few pieces that I saved when finally leaving the country. This one was manufactured by Uberte and one of the first to enter the US. I bought it back in the ‘60s when Lyman first started advertising them. And of course this was before they were in stock so I had to wait for what seemed like forever. In fact I moved once before it arrived but it caught up with me. It turned out to be a great shooter and was capable of one hole groups at 25 yds. I had many chances to sale when people saw it perform but it’s a keeper. I hope yours does as well. |
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Post by darth on Sept 24, 2016 23:22:49 GMT
I am getting a repo Remington .44 revolver in January ( .44 for turning 44~), that D-guard would go good with it. I have such a repro and it’s one of the few pieces that I saved when finally leaving the country. This one was manufactured by Uberte and one of the first to enter the US. I bought it back in the ‘60s when Lyman first started advertising them. And of course this was before they were in stock so I had to wait for what seemed like forever. In fact I moved once before it arrived but it caught up with me. It turned out to be a great shooter and was capable of one hole groups at 25 yds. I had many chances to sale when people saw it perform but it’s a keeper. I hope yours does as well. That's sweet. I've never done black powder revolvers before. Looking forward to it and maybe getting a flintlock pistol. The model I am looking at converts to cartages with the change of the cylinder and you can change those just like Eastwood in Pale Rider. :-) www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/black-powder/black-powder-revolvers|/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/567338580/pietta-model-1858-new-army-44-caliber-black-powder-revolver/731695.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1115136 Might, might try to join the re-enactment group for my lady's and children's ancestors, the 33rd Virginia Infantry, so I'll need two of them. :-) |
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Post by darth on Sept 24, 2016 23:30:09 GMT
I like this site. It helps you get your ducks in a row.
Want a Cutlass, BAD, want an offhand knife to play with for my Bavarian Infantry sword and the Broadsword that's a coming, bad.
But I can get the D-Guard now and get another synth sword for still less than a cutlass-hanger.
So it's the D-Guard Bowie beginning of the month!
The American Revolution Hanger is the leader so far in the repro category. so maybe in Novemeber i'll get it unless something else takes the lead or a see a sweet deal on an antique.
Thank you all.
And Afoo, thanks for the offer. Maybe? Just not this month, so maybe if you don't sell it soon and I am flush next month, may get it too, just sounds like if one or the other the ARH beats the Frenchsword, but I could see both. ( hmmm, Fat hanger and a thin hanger? Hacky, Stabby!)
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Post by darth on Sept 24, 2016 23:40:15 GMT
Dang, I do like that. It's like a Scott dirk, but better.. Could parry with it if need be, certainly check off your main weapon's parry with it, has enough of a guard to not get a slide down on your fingers but would not use it as a primary defensive tool. Hmm, even cheaper than the Bowie? Eh, but we know more about the Bowie. But yeah. If it was a 24" blade or more and a knuckle bow I'd get it now. Bowie. But I'm going to get that thing. I do need a dirk for Highland arts but you can't tell me some of them did not have Kraut daggers in place of the local flavor. lots of Dirks were just remounted busted swords anyhow. You guys rock. |
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Post by darth on Sept 24, 2016 23:50:26 GMT
Ah, cutlasses! Now you're talking my language. Own many of the various windlass models. Solid blades, but handle construction can be a bit iffy. Had grips and guard bits shift on me. Epoxy it all together, though and you're good. Razor's Hanwei was mine. Had him sharpen it for me and never got it back.  Found a hanwei VOC cutlass--same blade fancy brass basket. Sweet sword. BKS though are where it's at for tough cutlasses right now as far as I'm concerned. You might want to look at the 1917 cutlass arms2armor.com/Swords/1917var1.htm There are a few repros--the CS is half good; can't speak for the others. Originals can be had for a good price. That tells you how much I liked the Hanwei hanger. It's not like I just never gave it back, we did a trade. I'm also left handed so I have don't have a lot of options when it comes with cutlass and sabers. I second the BKS cutlasses. I also want to get my hands on a Olde Town Forge cutlass, I have one of his hawks and that is my favorite hawk. Pogo, has or had this one and I liked it too, but it's right hand only. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=NS004&name=1775+British+Officer+Saber The Nielo Brit Officer saber looks nice. KOA no longer has it and 2 other sites said backordered. ( I've wondered about that brand, they have some sweet looking stuff.) I do like the look of that alot. As for right hand only, do you mean because the guar does not priotect well in left hand or does it impeed using your left? Not much of a guard on it by the looks of it. Yes I'd use it mostly right but i do train amby with everything, even handguns. What is the BKS? The Olde Town Cutlass looks awesome. A bit more than I want to spend now, but if I really like cutlass and hanger play, I can see going for that blade because it looks sick! Hack and stab equally. And that boarding hawk does look wicked! |
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Post by pgandy on Sept 25, 2016 0:08:44 GMT
I sincerely hope that you will enjoy the D-Guard Bowie. One thing that hasn’t been talked about in this thread, although in the past somewhere I did talk about it, and that’s the quillon. While it is possible to trap an opponent’s blade with this Windlass fell a little short on the design. It should be more pronounced allowing a blade to be trap easier as well as a reasonable sized stick/club. But again, it will work and reasonably well.
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Post by darth on Sept 25, 2016 0:31:19 GMT
Good point. Probably better off hand weapons for sword work than the D-Guard but it may be good enough for right now and I intend on carrying that Bowie on me, I probably would not do so with a Main Gouch or other dedicated parrying dagger, things I do want to have in the future for sure.
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Post by Razor on Sept 25, 2016 4:52:12 GMT
I sincerely hope that you will enjoy the D-Guard Bowie. One thing that hasn’t been talked about in this thread, although in the past somewhere I did talk about it, and that’s the quillon. While it is possible to trap an opponent’s blade with this Windlass fell a little short on the design. It should be more pronounced allowing a blade to be trap easier as well as a reasonable sized stick/club. But again, it will work and reasonably well. Well, it is a bowie, it's not really made to trap blade like a butterfly sword or some main qouchs/ parrying daggers. The main purpose for the back quillon is to help the hand not sliding up with a thrust and to protect the wrist. |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 25, 2016 6:26:06 GMT
That tells you how much I liked the Hanwei hanger. It's not like I just never gave it back, we did a trade. I'm also left handed so I have don't have a lot of options when it comes with cutlass and sabers. I second the BKS cutlasses. I also want to get my hands on a Olde Town Forge cutlass, I have one of his hawks and that is my favorite hawk. Pogo, has or had this one and I liked it too, but it's right hand only. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=NS004&name=1775+British+Officer+Saber The Nielo Brit Officer saber looks nice. KOA no longer has it and 2 other sites said backordered. ( I've wondered about that brand, they have some sweet looking stuff.) I do like the look of that alot. As for right hand only, do you mean because the guar does not priotect well in left hand or does it impeed using your left? Not much of a guard on it by the looks of it. Mainly right handed because the guard protects the back of the right hand, and rather well I'd say, for a cut oriented sword. |
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Post by darth on Sept 25, 2016 6:54:25 GMT
kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=BKS208 If that's the BKS you are talking about, that's pretty nasty looking. I live close enough to Baltimore I could go there. I am going to visit Christoph Amberger up there for some fencing in a couple of weeks, so maybe I'll go see if BKS has a shop you can stop by at and check the stuff out in person?
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Post by darth on Sept 25, 2016 6:57:33 GMT
I bet I could get them to re hilt my Sword of Eio ? ( or whatever that game is)
Damn Razor. I guess this is where I could have taken that EBS to have rehilted and fixed if i kept it?
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Post by pgandy on Sept 25, 2016 14:24:43 GMT
I sincerely hope that you will enjoy the D-Guard Bowie. One thing that hasn’t been talked about in this thread, although in the past somewhere I did talk about it, and that’s the quillon. While it is possible to trap an opponent’s blade with this Windlass fell a little short on the design. It should be more pronounced allowing a blade to be trap easier as well as a reasonable sized stick/club. But again, it will work and reasonably well. Well, it is a bowie, it's not really made to trap blade like a butterfly sword or some main qouchs/ parrying daggers. The main purpose for the back quillon is to help the hand not sliding up with a thrust and to protect the wrist. Granted the quillon primary purpose is to protect the back of the hand and not needed to stop the hand from sliding onto the blade as the knuckle bow will do that. What I am saying is that the quillon will trap an incoming blade, I’ve practiced it. Personally I think Windlass could have made this more efficient by making it more pronounced and/or by simply eliminating the bulbous quillon end. Some d-guard bowies in the 19th century were made in such a fashion.   |
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Post by Razor on Sept 25, 2016 19:38:40 GMT
Well, it is a bowie, it's not really made to trap blade like a butterfly sword or some main qouchs/ parrying daggers. The main purpose for the back quillon is to help the hand not sliding up with a thrust and to protect the wrist. Granted the quillon primary purpose is to protect the back of the hand and not needed to stop the hand from sliding onto the blade as the knuckle bow will do that. What I am saying is that the quillon will trap an incoming blade, I’ve practiced it. Personally I think Windlass could have made this more efficient by making it more pronounced and/or by simply eliminating the bulbous quillon end. Some d-guard bowies in the 19th century were made in such a fashion. Back quillons do help in securing the hand from sliding up on the blade and most d-guards had them. I like Windlass's guard on their D-guard Bowie, and there is even some antique bowies that have something similar to Windlass's back quillon.     |
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Post by Barnaum on Sept 26, 2016 18:01:11 GMT
Hangers are among my favorite type of sword. It's hard to find a production one that fits with historical typology. You might try At The
Royal sword. I have both the bone handled hunting sword and the English hanger.
One a side note, because of the lack of production hangers, I have been working on creating a hanger
based on various historical swords using the blade from the Windlass English
cutlass. I am currently antiquing it.
   
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Sept 26, 2016 18:22:13 GMT
Cool project! You made the guard?
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Post by Barnaum on Sept 26, 2016 18:56:07 GMT
Cool project! You made the guard? Yup. I made the guard from 16ga sheet steel and the pommel cap I smelted on to the end using pewter. |
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Post by tea on Sept 26, 2016 18:59:00 GMT
The other top contender, the Windlass Scottish Cutlass, is over 3 lbs. I'd call this a hanger even though it's cutlassy looking, she's not that cav sword weight short sword many categorise cutlasses as, but one would reckon a Cutlass was worn less and a hanger might be worn all day. You may trade in that dismembering aiding weight for something that still takes limbs out of action and stabs well. I can always beef up a guard or basketise it, but it's harder to subtract weight from a piece. I have the Windlass Scottish Cutlass. While it is well balanced (COB is about 1" forward of the guard), the overall weight makes it fairly awkward (at least for me). More of a chopper than a cutter - if that makes sense. Also, for me, the guard is too small, as my knuckles hit the inside. It is an attractive piece, but would be a lot nicer and more practical (at least for me) if it was a pound lighter and the basket was a smidge roomier. |
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Found a hanwei VOC cutlass--same blade fancy brass basket. Sweet sword.
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