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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 15:28:00 GMT
Tolkien gives me the screaming irrits, he is a good fantasy historian with whole dry and dusty thing down pat. Would it have killed him to talk about even one thing as being more than dusty facts of a fantastical nature? I don't think he is that great an author but he is certainly pedantic. If you want a good read try Fiona McIntosh, fantastic fantasy author  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 20:05:06 GMT
i totally agree that tolkien's style is... well not sure the right word for it... but i gotta say i love it. and it works because his mythology encompasses thousands of years, generation after generation, while at the same time focusing in on individual people places and events much of the time... so its like there has to be a certain level of distance, like you're looking at those things from a very grand perspective.
i'd say it definately takes getting used to, but especially in LOTR and the hobbit, i don't think its really all that dusty or anything, especially when focusing on the hobbits.
anywho, i absolutely love his style of writting, but its definately not everyone's cup of tea... i think it just puts you in that epic / medieval / fantastical mindset. and lots of the passages and dialogue are just downright beautiful...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 20:07:34 GMT
hmm... all this tolkien talk has made me get out The Return of the King and start reading some of my favorite passages... i think i'll go start a Tolkien thread in the forum cafe if anyone is interested in continuing a discussion on anything tolkien related.
plus if anyone wants to talk about other authors it'd be cool to have a general literary thread in the cafe as well...
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Post by septofclansinclair on Jan 9, 2008 22:20:05 GMT
david - that's a good idea, why don't you start one?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 4:43:15 GMT
I loved the book and was content to hate the movie without seeing it. But a year rolld by and they play it on tv, I ignore it for a few months, but they kept playing it. So I watched it. And damn it was good. I'm waiting for this one as well, and then Voyage of the Dawn Treader is going to be made, too. I hope they make The Magicians Nephew, as it was my favorite of the books. i too loved the books growing up (still do) and the movie was "meh" in my opinion. It was gorgeous, visually. It just...lacked...something. I cant quite put my finger on it...but something's missing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 4:45:05 GMT
Tolkien gives me the screaming irrits, he is a good fantasy historian with whole dry and dusty thing down pat. Would it have killed him to talk about even one thing as being more than dusty facts of a fantastical nature? I don't think he is that great an author but he is certainly pedantic. If you want a good read try Fiona McIntosh, fantastic fantasy author HAHA! True. I can see why he doesnt appeal to everyone. At times it reads like a history book. If you think LOTR is tough, try the Silmarillion. I think it's a beautiful book, and gorgeously detailed, but, its like trying to make a narrative out of a historical flow chart.  |
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jan 28, 2008 4:53:41 GMT
i too loved the books growing up (still do) and the movie was "meh" in my opinion. It was gorgeous, visually. It just...lacked...something. I cant quite put my finger on it...but something's missing. Yeah of course it was visually spectacular coz it was filmed in New Zealand, touted by many as the most beautiful country on Earth, and I've been there and won't argue with that. The thing that was missing was blood. And half of the story - as always happens putting a book to a 2hr film via a different artist. And that hollywood ice crossing scene  . |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 17:39:09 GMT
i too loved the books growing up (still do) and the movie was "meh" in my opinion. It was gorgeous, visually. It just...lacked...something. I cant quite put my finger on it...but something's missing. Yeah of course it was visually spectacular coz it was filmed in New Zealand, touted by many as the most beautiful country on Earth, and I've been there and won't argue with that. The thing that was missing was blood. And half of the story - as always happens putting a book to a 2hr film via a different artist. And that hollywood ice crossing scene . I can agree! I lived in Wellington for a year. New Zealand is truly "Gods country"  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 19:09:23 GMT
Now I've never been to New Zealand, and I'm sure it's beautiful, but other places that I'm sure are gorgeous include Scotland and also Alaska.
And, even though it's near to me, I cannot discount Yosemite. Wonderful place that.
Anyway, I liked the Silmarillion a lot. More than LoTR I'd say. Tolkein's style fit that one a lot better than an epic novel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 16:53:19 GMT
Just think next year when the THOR movie comes out , in between discussions of the hammer replicas we can argue the Religious subtexts and themes of the portrayal of a popular god . COOL . Sarcasm . |
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