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Post by Onimusha on Apr 19, 2013 23:23:43 GMT
I was looking for a good knife. I came to the scorpion swords site and saw this. traditionalarcherybows.com/handmade_resident_evil_knife_influenced_by_resident_evil_4_p111.htmlI know it's a video game knife, but it looks like a very practical and versatile design. With 12" of blade, it's really more of a short sword. I know scorpion has a reputation for tough stuff, but do any of you knife experts think it's worth $200 without a sheath? I would make a kydex sheath anyway.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Apr 20, 2013 0:07:34 GMT
"Worth" is really subjective, ya know. Me, I really like the style of the knife, so I'd personally say it's worth it (if you can afford it); others may disagree. They may not like the look or the size or the fact that it came from a video game and that's totally fine. Everyone's got their own priorities and tastes when it comes to knife buying. Also, if you'd make a sheath for it anyway, asking if it's worth it without one seems kinda macht nichts to me.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 0:14:34 GMT
I don't really know what "macht nichts" means. Anyway, most high end knives come with some kind of sheath. I'm just asking if the quality of their knives is worth the price. Leather sheaths wouldn't fit my purpose anyway. I'd rather have a kydex one with a friction detent.
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Post by Talon on Apr 20, 2013 4:14:40 GMT
$189 for a handmade blade,yes i think it's worth it.You get a lot of steel for the money.You could also pm Fallen,that style of blade shouldn't be a problem for him,and he may beat the price. As far as i'm aware Scorpion make good products. I've never heard any negative reviews of them.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 4:29:58 GMT
There was a conversation in another thread where fallen said he wouldn't copy someone else's design. The blade is 1095, which I understand to be a more expensive material than, say, 1060. I've hear a lot about the brittleness of 1095, but my ka-bar is made of 1095. I'm here to tell you, that thing is a rugged beast. Ricky's beaters also prove that 1095 can make a tough blade. You've never heard anything negative about Scorpion Swords. I haven't heard much at all about them, but you know what they say, do somebody right, they'll tell one person. Screw em over, they'll tell 1000.
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Post by Talon on Apr 20, 2013 5:02:03 GMT
I said that style of blade ,he could do something similar with you're own take on it.1095 will be fine for it.And you're right if Scorpion made a bad product we'd all know about it.
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Post by GUEST on Apr 20, 2013 5:11:53 GMT
The blade is a copy itself, the old Cold steel LTC with a diff. hilt. Yes I could change things up some so it's not a carbon copy. Your right I respect other people designs won't do them. There is nothing wrong with 1095 steel as long as it is heat treated and tempter right it is not brittle.
But $189.00 isn't that bad of a price.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 5:14:49 GMT
Thing is, I don't see anything I'd want to change. Maybe a more "gripy" and shock absorbent handle material. That's about it. Maby a thin steel plate that sits flush with the top of the grip to give a sturdier guard.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Apr 20, 2013 5:20:13 GMT
if you were aware as to how much work goes into creating a piece like that, yes it is very much worth the price, scorpion swords are tough as nails and good quality. I would charge a similar price to make the same thing.
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Post by Talon on Apr 20, 2013 5:23:18 GMT
You could always e mail Chris and ask him to change the grip material and add the plate,it probably wouldn't cost you much extra (if at all).For that amount of blade you won't get it made much cheaper.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 5:24:49 GMT
Come to think of it, I'd like the blade shortened to 8". That thing is more like a shortsword or machete than a knife. Quick little tidbit, the knife in the game is a mercwerks sniper. What say you fallen. You want the project?
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Post by GUEST on Apr 20, 2013 5:39:36 GMT
I haven't got the molds or equipment to do rubber grips. I will have 3 kurki style blade finished soon 2 with curly maple and one with Dynawood rosewood handles. I think the smallest one is around 8 inch blade length they should be finish by the end of this weekend.
If you have your own design send it to me and Saito we'll see what one of us can do. I work mainly with 1084 steel, sometimes 5160 and 1095.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 5:40:29 GMT
Thanks saito. That's, more or less, what I was asking.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 5:45:04 GMT
Well, I want the thing for a carry knife. I just think the blade is a bit long. I guess the best thing would be to contact the maker to see if I can get it with a shorter blade. I can sand the grip with rough sandpaper to make it more gripy. The thing is full tang. I really don't need the plate. Heck, it may wind up cheaper, since there's less steel used.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Apr 20, 2013 5:46:30 GMT
No prob Onimusha, if you ever need a custom blade as fallen said feel free to email one of us and well see what we can do, as of right now though Im full up on commissions, working on a Full sized sword for Myself, and a Customer, and 3 or 4 blades for other customers as well. I kinda got bombarded with orders a couple days ago, thank god. I really need the money.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 5:57:57 GMT
As it turns out, Scorpion swords is on the forum. I wanted to get it from a forum member. I guess it works out.
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Post by GUEST on Apr 20, 2013 6:11:54 GMT
When back and looks at the Scorpion knife for some reason I was thinking it's a kurki style blade. I was wrong just full belly on the point of the knife. Not as hard of a design to make as I thought.
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Post by Onimusha on Apr 20, 2013 6:23:07 GMT
Well, could you do one with an 8" blade? I don't need the grooves on the back. They don't really serve a purpose. The back isn't Sharp on theirs. I'd like to keep it that way. The handle material they use would be fine. The blade could be a bit more narrow. If you're willing, pm me a quote.
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Post by lrb on Apr 20, 2013 12:20:22 GMT
Any time I see a knife promoted because it is of 1095 steel, my first question is on the heat treatment of it. Some makers do it well, but many do not. 1095 cannot be HTed as a simple steel with expectations of it meeting its potential high qualities. The description of the HT on these blades in question makes me suspicious of the their HT quality. They say the blades are heated to 1500° and when non-magnetic, quenched in oil. Non-magnetic is 1414°, and 1095 should not be taken above 1475° in the hardening process, or it will begin to produce coarse carbides. Heat tempering? How else would it be done? For maximum strength it should have two, two hour "heat tempers", or it will have some amount of retained austenite, much of which could have been converted with a second "heat temper". Since their HT description is pretty brief, and somewhat hyped, there could well be other problems with it. As far as workmanship verses price, it seems great, but personally, I would not care to buy one with a HT as described.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Apr 20, 2013 13:36:10 GMT
For something that large I would go for 5150/5160 - saying that, I have a Kukri with a 13" blade and find it neither knife nor machete, so the idea of losing a couple of inches on that blade is good. There is excessive false edge in my opinion, particularly at the centre, so 8 or 9 inch blade and lose a third of the false bevel. I must say the knife without a sheath is like casual sex without a condom, too many risks.
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