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Post by wnydel on Mar 20, 2011 13:10:05 GMT
I'm married and so far my wife has been very tolerant of my sword collecting and borderline obsession. Just curious who here is married or has a significant other (especially if they live with you). How do they feel about your swords? Are they okay with them in general? With you displaying them? I was just looking at some photos of others collections and they put mine to shame. I have to wonder when I am going to cross the line with my wife and she puts her foot down about displaying them. When I recently put up my display on our mantle, I had my doubts. She was at work when I did it. I sent up my display (Katana, and 2 Ninjatos) on a stand. Then I incorporated two of her teapots with flowers sticking out of them and "prettied it up" as best I could. Even placed a picture over the fireplace that seemed to fit the theme. I held my breath when she came home and she was good with it . I'm still waiting to see how far I can push things before she puts a stop to it. Anyway wondering how this goes over with your spouses/significant others?
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Post by Odingaard on Mar 20, 2011 13:39:30 GMT
Well, given our recently increased income level, I take my sword collection in extreme moderation. In order to avoid being obsessive and remain respectful, we have an unspoken, sell one to get one rule. My wife, who is greatly understanding and tolerant of me, does not see swords being a sound financial investment or other than a boy toy hobby, much like my firearms or Harley-Davidson habits. Out of respect for her and my family, I keep my collection at a maximum of 10 swords only. If I find something that I want, I must agree to sell one to get another. In some cases, I can cheat the system and sell 2-3 to fund a larger purchase, which opens up another 1-2 spaces to fill. If there is a sale, such as a MRL tent, Windlass closeout, H/Ts for $100 sale, $150 Albion in the classifieds: these small purchases fall under the wire and I can splurge a little bit for my customization/leather working hobby without complaint. It becomes a largely self-sustaining addiction, in that I can do my own cutler work and make a profit on some things to fully fund other purchases. :lol: We discuss all purchases, large or small, in any case. Even now that I make considerably more income than I did last year, it's still discussed. That's just a matter of being respectful. Over the top expendatures on swords are NOT OK in my household. A hobby is one thing, but if a Du Sith or Svante were to show up at the house, I'd be decapitated with it. We have agreed that the limit on any single sword's value should not exceed the price of an average Albion, or around $1000. She sees this as being fair, and I agree with her. It works out and she never gives me grief, but our finances are well taken care of when I delve into collecting ANYTHING. When they were not well off, I bought nothing for myself - so I want to be clear that before any collecting at all has been considered, the money was there for the expenses. If money was tight, then I had enough respect and responsibility to make sure the bills were paid before investing in something that was not needed. Mortgage, bills, cars, insurance, vacation, home upkeep, and other odds and ends always take priority in our house - so swords are never an argument for us. To each their own, but I don't agree with a collecting habit that is a heavy burden on other family members - I have seen this a time or two over the years with various friends. I would never ask a family member to assist me funding a sword purchase if I did not have the money myself. I think in the end, its all about respect for your significant other and your family. If you are spending money you don't have to fund a habit, then it becomes your families burden. That, is morally and ethically unacceptable in my opinion. As to my wife's opinions about swords, she is respectfully indifferent to the hobby in general and without a heavily biased opinion. She has picked up a little knowledge here and there - she can definately tell a cheaply-made blade from an expensive one. That is a woman's ability :lol: . She knows the different between an Albion and a Windlass. She knows a few maker's marks, where various manufacturers are made at, a tad of sword history, a little of the Typology, and the general value of something in the collection. She's even bought me a couple blades over the years, but I put a stop to this, because then it morally obliged me to keep her gift-swords even if my taste changed. So now, we keep that area all on my side of the fence. We are in a comfortable place as far as my swords go, which is all I could really ask. Will she ever love swords as I do? No. That is my hobby, not hers. As long as our family's needs come first, she does not really care!
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Post by wnydel on Mar 20, 2011 13:50:30 GMT
That is great. We discuss every purchase too. Just out of respect and also for practical reasons. Your are right, the bills have to come first.
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Post by Talon on Mar 20, 2011 14:11:50 GMT
im afraid im a lot more sneaky when it comes to sword purchases :oops: i tend to buy them , then just before they arrive i tend to broach the subject (and i usually state a lower price than i actually pay) :lol:
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Post by whitefeathers on Mar 20, 2011 14:25:16 GMT
I dont have a spouse or a significant other, so Ill use my parents. They know about 4 or so of my about 10 swords because those are the ones they have seen. I used to always tell them about a new gun I bought, and i would just see Mom shaking her head. Mom is ok with the swords though. Dad could care less because he likes guns. I did tell them I sold a bunch of guns...but didnt tell them that it was to fund more sword purchases(evil giggle),more martial arts training, and travel to said training. They arent too worried about me as Im good with my finances and when I know I cant afford something I dont buy it.
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Post by 14thforsaken on Mar 20, 2011 14:52:50 GMT
My wife doesn't particularly care for swords or understand why I collect them. She'd prefer that I spent the money on something else. But as long as I don't go to crazy, she lets it pass. I am careful to not spend more on my collection than I can afford.
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Post by S. Thomas on Mar 20, 2011 15:15:18 GMT
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Post by Larry Jordan on Mar 20, 2011 15:45:39 GMT
Whoa. No wonder you are trouble. I have only one wife.
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Post by Brian Kunz on Mar 20, 2011 15:49:43 GMT
My wife helps me make scabbards for them
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Post by AceofHats on Mar 20, 2011 16:06:14 GMT
my wife is slowly coming along in the support arena... she is moderately against any/all violence to begin with, but being an artist, she is starting to see the beauty as well as the weapon aspect. We also have an understanding that "life" stuff comes first. Having bought our home three years ago, I look at "us" purchases first, swords second. Not a FUN thing to do always, but more important and better for ME long term. I like the idea above about incorporating the tea cups, etc into a display. We have such items from our honeymoon and I might want to incorporate these into something... Good thread. AoH
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Post by chrisperoni on Mar 20, 2011 16:31:48 GMT
My wife, Sherri, is fine with them so long as we can afford them. We are very clear and open with our personal spending and both understand that 'the bills' come first- both the everyday essentials such as food and heat and the more long term needs like life insurance and savings. With the fast approaching arrival of our first child (Charlotte will be here by the end of May-ish!! ) I have responsibly curtailed spending on swords because it just isn't practical. We will be losing a portion of Sherri's income during her maternity leave and of course have the natural added costs to concern ourselves with. I agree with what's been said already that someone's hobbies should not become a burden to anyone. Sherri has sveral hobbies of her own such as photography and quilting (and many more) which can actually be quite expensive in their own right. You can probably easily imagine how expensive quality camera lenses may be but I bet you have no no idea how much good fabric costs! I certainly didn't realize that until I went with her to a quilting store and saw the bill for myself. She has also stopped spending on her hobbies right now for the same reasons I have. As to my collecting in general and my current collection she makes fun of me for liking swords but also has shown some intrest in them and commented about how certain swords look nice, cool, etc. She likes leaf blade styles best and isn't into euros with big hilts. We just moved and Sherri was the one to suggest I display my collection in the family room; I was the one who decided against it until I get around to making a secure locking case for them. We have her litle brothers over more often now as well as friends with small children and I just would rather be safe than sorry. Sherri is actually pretty cool with me collecting them and tolerates me cutting in the backyard- rolls her eyes at that but does save me her water bottles. She even bought me my jian as an early xmas present. Forgot to add- The little extras like some leather or wood- stuff to tweak my current swords is fine to buy without discussing- we are reasonable people who trust each other to spend wisely and care for each other enough to let us do our own thing within reason. I don't get bent out of shape if she picks up some yarn to crochet even if she has a bunch already- maybe she needed a certain colour. She gets it if I want a new piece of steel for a tsuba.
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Post by JohnE on Mar 20, 2011 16:45:29 GMT
My wife is very understanding and supportive of my sword-love, even though she doesn't share it. She actually likes it when I display them.
She said to me the other day that she loves to collect things that come in different colors. I told her about the SBG custom katanas that you can get in all different colors. She didn't bite.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 18:13:13 GMT
Being the significant other of a sword collector and a sword collector myself I have to say I see absolutely no problem with the hobby whatsoever. Of course before my husband and I met I was big into renaissance faires and all things weapon related. In all honesty I think he was a bit surprised that I was actually into guns and wanted him to teach me to shoot when we first got together. A good bit of our tax return went towards funding sword/knife/ax purchases and I was perfectly fine with it. I was quite excited when we received our swords and display hangers in the mail and even assembled the display mounts myself gleefully before making him hang the weapons as soon as I was finished. As a matter of fact when he brought up the oven blueing idea for his h/t my first reaction was "really? sounds cool, yeah you can use the oven!" My hubby has a "wish list" of sorts of blades he'd like to acquire someday (a list I still need to add to myself come to think of it) and I'll be glad once we have the extra income to pick up some more sharp pointy stabby things! Still haven't had a chance to test out our new acquisitions sadly, even though the hubby has :cry: I'm just gonna have to make him set up some stuff for me to cut on my next day off I guess.
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Post by Talon on Mar 20, 2011 18:38:43 GMT
well said mrs silvermoon :lol:
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Post by Sean (Shadowhowler) on Mar 20, 2011 18:45:36 GMT
My wife is very accepting of my sword collecting... I have even had a couple swords custom made for her by BKS and FableBlades. I personally subscribe to Odingaard's collecting theory... not the number 10, as I have around 40 swords... but that my collection now has to fund any new swords. I don't add anything to my collection anymore without selling/trading something I have to get it. No new money has gone into my sword collection in about a year. My wife has say in what does or does not stay in the collection to some degree as well... there are some swords she really likes and bonded with, and informed me not to trade or sell those swords. Sometimes if I'm unsure of how she feels about a sword, I'll speak to her before selling/trading it to get her opinion on it. I'm also careful not to spend more then I could return if need be. My sword collection as it stands right now is worth more then I have paid for it... and I keep it that way. I just wish this went both ways... as I was not consulted on the rug or many other expensive items that have been bought... and more was spent on them then they are worth big time. Ah well...
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Post by Maynar on Mar 20, 2011 19:46:28 GMT
Decoration-wise, my better half has the downstairs (no swords there), I have the upstairs- except inside the smaller bedrooms, of course. Thus I have the master BR to hang my collection. A dozen Japanese, couple of Euros (looking to expand there) and I'll be hitting the saturation point for this room, very soon. Selling some pieces will definitely happen. Finance-wise, swords are a luxury that can only be indulged in if extra funds are there to support it. All other priorities come first, naturally. Beats cocaine all to hell. booya
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Post by wnydel on Mar 20, 2011 19:46:59 GMT
Chris, congrats on your upcoming new addition!
Kids are fantastic. They change your life for the better. I have 2 (son who is 10 and daughter who is 5). They have made my life so much better than it was, and it wasn't bad to begin with. Just count on having your sleep interrupted several times a night for about the first four months.
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Post by Marc Kaden Ridgeway on Mar 20, 2011 21:26:26 GMT
What does MY spouse think of swords? Well... She bought me this !!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 21:58:56 GMT
Not if he's anything like my hubby! He can sleep through anything... Many a night I spent glaring at him when the baby woke me thinking "I'm up WTH aren't you!?" Our boy is almost two now though so thankfully those nights are behind me, unless he has a particularly bad bout of teething. I wouldn't change anything for the world though, our boy is the light of our life.
Marc, absolutely beautiful piece. Simple yet elegant all at once. much kudo's to your wife's tastes.
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Post by wnydel on Mar 20, 2011 23:05:40 GMT
At first my wife and I took turns, then we both got up every time, then one of use would sleep in the room with the baby and the other would get to sleep through the night (every other night). We alternated between all of those strategies until they started sleeping though the night.
And Marc, that is an awesome sword.
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