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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 18:40:22 GMT
I recommend this because I owned one and it is very durable sharp light and extremely fast ...... suitable for use like a stick or easily deployed as a sword should more force be needed strong enough to lean on quick enough to chop the head off a pit bull This is the only "katana"-type of sword I have really wanted. There is this threat however that this sort of thing might lead me to want real katanas Its just so exciting when it looks like a stick. The idea of this hidden sword is the opposite than the idea of viking or dark age swords (that I am generally looking) for that are mainly status symbols. This is so different than my normal taste that it makes it exciting. I would like to have a similar blade hidden in umbrella or bikes tires air pump, or why not the bikes hollow structure itself. I wouldnt really need it but the idea is fun.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 8:38:50 GMT
Actually, I'd suggest more of a crushing weapon. Agreed, I doubt she's trying to "injure" the coyote by stabbing . Might as well bash its head in with a club or something of the sort.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 14:51:09 GMT
I'm gettin one of these...Ancalagon, your sister would be well served carrying one of those, along with an air horn or some other backup in case she misses with the knife. Again, y'all have it backwards. Travel in numbers. AIR HORN FIRST, then pepper spray. melee as last resort. If a coyote is in melee range, than means there is likely at least one more less than a yard from you and you're as not going to escape uninjured. Coyotes attack the weak. Make yourself appear like you're not. Keep them at range and keep your head. Add your thoughts about knife-fighting pack-based predators all y'all want but it's bad advice from a survival standpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 19:43:44 GMT
I don't know that a knife is going to be very helpful in a situation where you're facing down a coyote AND you're a woman- I'd go with something with a little more reach. Like maybe a Cold Steel machete- the one with the long composite handle and short, broad blade. It'll be helpful in clearing brush and it is substantial enough that she could really get some oomph into a swing w/out using up a lot of energy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 16:00:08 GMT
A knife is a piss poor means of defense versus a coyote. Having grown up out in rural Texas, I can tell you that you don't want to try to fend off two or three coyotes with something shorter than a yard (or a meter i think you call 'em? ) they're too damn fast to protect yourself with anything that short and they don't hunt solo. The bear/dog pepper spray, and air horn is the best suggestion by far. Oh and re: Cold Steel trying to make it look impressive that they can break an egg with a leather stick? HA! The melon was impressive. An egg can be broken with a pencil. LOL I ditto this entirey, even the egg comment. In all seriousness, pepper spray is absolutely the best defence for someone who is going to be out walking/hiking alone. This goes for defending vs animals as well as humans(that act like animals). But the key to carrying it while you're out and about, is to have it in your hand, with the safety off. If she really wants a knife to feel better, and you want to get one, a nice sturdy fixed blade type, like a Cold Steel tanto, or Search and Rescue Knife is good. But this needs to be a backup option after something like pepper spray. Also, for another option that my wife and I carry in our cars and she takes while walking is an ASP batton. Again, it's close range, so should be secondary after spray, but can be used collapsed to nail something in the head with the end of the handle, or snap it out and use as a club. Small, and compact to carry in your hands without notice while walking.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 16:04:06 GMT
gman, hey, thanks for posting this...was thinking of other options for the wife to be armed w/out it being edged or a firearm. ASP baton, gonna go look into that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 16:29:26 GMT
Sure thing. My wife had a little trouble getting the hang of snapping it out. Which is kind of important to be able to do quick and easily. I sprayed a tiny bit of WD40 lube on the blade, like super tiny amount. I flicked it out a few times to spread it around and then she was able to get it much easier after that.
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Post by sparky on Dec 12, 2009 0:21:37 GMT
Question,I just heard on the news today about two pit bulls that were shoot dead in an airport. The reporter said the officer tried to break up the fighting dogs with pepper spray and it had no effect on them. He was then forced to shoot the dogs.
Now I recognize that these two pits were totally into fighting each other and that's probably why the pepper spray didn't work. Couldn't the same be said for coyotes hunting for their lives? So my question is, how effective would pepper spray be on coyotes?
With all that I still agree, a Knife should be a last resort weapon!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 0:44:15 GMT
You could also use an airhorn to send an SOS to others within earshot, assuming they know that three horn blasts is a distress signal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 23:29:06 GMT
Add your thoughts about knife-fighting pack-based predators all y'all want but it's bad advice from a survival standpoint. Ya think? The original thread asked about what knife would be best in our opinion; not if a knife was the best option.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 2:02:17 GMT
Okay, I know I'm chiming in a bit late here. First, I would say that the specifics about coyote behavior mentioned in this thread are seriously worth reading and re-reading for anybody who spends a lot of time out doors. Second, the OP mentioned that the knife is a "back-up" this means were all agreed that thinking a knife alone gives you more than a thread of an advantage against a canine is just faulty reasoning. Third, several years ago I was in a pack vs human situation with coyotes and I did manage to come out of it uninjured.
I'm sure y'all are dying for an explanation of that third point. Anyway, this was back in about 1999 and I ended up wandering out alone of a friend's horse ranch. I ended up basically stumbling into pack of coyotes that had decided to gather near where my car was parked. (I later learned that this was also near where my friend had been storing the food for the Ranch dogs which is what the coyotes were probably after.) Since the coyotes weren't attack immediately but rather waiting to see what I would do, I was able to get to my car's trunk and retrieve the softball bat and engineer's hammer I kept there. (The hammer was just in case I needed to throw something.) After a lot of loud shouting, cussing, and growling on my part combined with waving the bat around quite a bit and pounding into the ground and a nearby tree the coyotes decided that I was probably not worth attacking with as few numbers as they had (I saw three in front but I'm sure there was one trying to get behind me). The whole situation ended with myself backing away from the coyotes slowly and they slowly backing away from me until enough distance separated us for us all to decide to go our separate ways. In my case that was getting in car and starting the engine, by the time I flipped on the headlights they coyotes were already making themselves well scarce.
Therefore, in the absence a a fire arm (which I would have much preferred in the above situation) my thoughts about what to use for defense do repeat a lot of what others have said: anything that will make a fairly loud noise (ie air horn), anything that can give you a decent range advantage like the bear spray or pepper spray, a big stick of some variety be it cane, club, branch, sporting implement of any stripe, or other (apparently many wild animals understand "big stick") - last the knife that one should never be outdoors without. As for a type of knife, anything sturdy that feels good in the hand of the person holding it. For a US $30 price range I would simply go to a sporting goods store and start grabbing a few different knives until I found one that felt right and has a sturdy construction. That's my $0.02
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 2:05:36 GMT
Arrgh, I would go back and start fixing typos but I saw too many in what I already wrote. Remind me not to type after taking pain pills (can't wait till I'm off these @@#@#@#!#!!!! things.)
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