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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 16:00:49 GMT
So there you are, you've found a sword, it is an amazing piece of weaponry, your heart says yes, your wallet says "yeah baby!" but then a little part of you says "what if you get a bill or what if you get cut off?"
Now it could just be that I am a student and I live on government assistance so every dollar is important but every time I am financially in a position to buy a new sword, I always balk, generally after sending a flurry of emails to all and sundry in an attempt to decide exactly what I want to spend my hard earned on. I have probably roundly pissed off most of the vendors and sword makers around here at one point or another, sorry guys!
Am I the only one who experiences this? Is it because of circumstance? Do you guys with good jobs ever get this or is it an easy task and never a dilemma (besides the range of swords these days, my goodness!).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 16:23:24 GMT
You're definitely not the only one. I've done exactly the same thing many a time. The problem is that we (most of us) don't use swords as daily tools, so it's kinda hard to justify that much money on a hobby sometimes... Erg... Stupid money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 17:44:28 GMT
Agreed Bryn. It's sorta like pre buyers remorse. This not something I need, just something I want.
Then there's the aspect of all the choices further muddling the decision process. Is this the ONE? Or is that THAT the one?
I feel you. Nope, you're not the only one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 17:50:11 GMT
Even with good jobs it is still the same; the only difference might be that the piece in question may be more expensive in the situation with the guy with a larger salary, but the agonizing over which one, if you should, what else might happen- oh man. It is like you caught a flash from my head...I do that with EVERY sword purchase. Sleep on it? I can't...I just toss and turn and go over the pros and cons, the cost, potential grief I may get for it, do I really want it or just want it right now, cost justification, devil's advocate arguments...I imagine I've missed out on a number of really great deals and there was that one instance where I did actually end up needing the money so it was a good thing, but still feel bad a little. Even now, I get just shy of inwardly cringing when I think about how much I've spent to date on swords...but that's no different than any other serious hobby. I know guys who tune cars and you're in the tens of thousands in costs bracket quite literally from the start; numismatists get turned on by copper coins- that's one I can't fathom....how does old money get to be worth more? The list goes on...I'd much rather shell out a few hundred a few times a year than to be in a hobby that would require that kind of layout in a single transaction- and even then, that would only be a part of it... Hey, it works for me. It could always be worse; that's what I tell the wife.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 17:58:41 GMT
As a college student recently laid off, I can say that my budget for swords has drastically reduced. What was originally budgeted to 2 swords a year is now limited to 1. I've had to forgo my Malatesta for one I want equally as much. After a LOT of decision making, I decided to go with the non-production piece instead. It broke my heart to give up on the Malatesta until next year, but for now, I'll be happy with the one a year deal and pray that the Malatesta is still available next January. Besides, birthday swords make the wait worthwhile and cancel out the knowledge that I'm getting older and older every year.
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Post by genocideseth on Dec 2, 2009 18:52:00 GMT
Bloodwraith: I am pretty sure ANYONE could tell you that is me exactly. I always have SOMETHING to pay for when I think I got cash.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 19:31:31 GMT
BW, I feel your pain...... Heck, I even agonize over a $9.99 waster.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 20:33:52 GMT
dont feel bad BW. I just got told by the wife, who is actually enjoying my sword fetish, no more until after Christmas....damn it I guess that blew out the idea of getting that wakazashi fo her Christmas present... I will be starting back to school in Jan, and had to plop down dough for tuition. Loans and grants are not available, since my check is barely too high for it. so I have to make payments.
And Liam, I feel for you too man. I have had the times where I had to get out the glass pig for a waster or even a hanger. The good side of things, is that, because of sites like this you can find quality for a budget price.
I just had enough saved to get a CS gim and a UC black line wakazashi, and cant get them... well I could but I dont want to sleep on the couch. My wife is reading this over my shoulder and just told me the sparring match is on if I get them.... damn that girl just dont realize she know how to turn me on.
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Post by Avery on Dec 2, 2009 20:38:01 GMT
Yeah, I go back and forth over and over before I buy anything. Alot of the time, I'll keep saving up till I get enough for a few things. By that time I've had enough time to decide on what I want to buy and if it's worth it. Here lately, I've came across too many good axe deals to pass up, but I think the streaks about over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2009 20:59:01 GMT
Well blood I got a full time job but to push my career ambitions forward gonna bite the bullet and go to uni next year, so the sword buying is gonna go down a bit.
the CSS Longsword was sort of my last sword buy that I could make without total agonisation, i tend to get 2 swords a year. My wife is okay on the grounds that they will last forever unlike computer upgrades, I think she would like me to spend more on training blunts then pretty shiny sharps and start training which would quantify the money a little more in pursuing the art.
But yeah I'm gonna be in your predicament soon enough blood.
Oh yeah and I've been in the narrow miss part at least 4 times where everything was clear and I had the money and was gonna buy but something made me put it off for a week and BAM ...... the car needed something, or an electricty bill was twice as big as I thought it would be.
I have the grace that I have 0 debt, no credit cards and rent at a good price.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Dec 2, 2009 22:58:18 GMT
yup I think we can all relate. I work side jobs to make my sword money and never ever spend family money on my toys. the more I want the harder I have to work. that arrangement works real well for me and I never have to worry too much when I want to buy because I have the money already set aside and it was money my family was never going to see in the first place. this only works though because I have a steady, reliable job that pays me well enough to take care of my family all by itself. if not for that I would be working side jobs to meet my family's needs and not buying swords at all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 1:41:43 GMT
Oh goodness, as an unemployed college student, my wallet pretty much doesn't ever agree with the swords I want to buy. I'll only buy one if I'll still have plenty of money left over, and I'm on a 1-a-year budget anyway. Though come to think of it, January/February it'll be time to get another one. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 1:48:31 GMT
As many of you know, I have access to plenty of swords at any time, but it is hard to justify adding another to my personal collection. I really have to have a deep desire to own it and make it my very own. Which leads to the question when does a person own enough swords, in which case I would really have to say never as each one has its own soul. If it calls to me enough I must make it my own.
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Post by Brett Whinnen on Dec 3, 2009 3:06:03 GMT
Its the same with any purchase of something that you really want but isn't necessary I think It is almost like a pre-buyers remorse I do the same with any purchase over about $250, do I really need it, what if it really isn't the one I want, what happens if I need to do this or that after spending the money... I really think you'll find even if there is disposable income in the family budget that more people are conscious of needing surplus for the rainy days now. Being a student makes it even worse as your budget is that tight / small to begin with. I remember those days
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 8:04:30 GMT
I have that problem with any purchase that isn't for someone else and isn't essential. I drive my wife crazy with my agonizing over the decision to spend money. Many's the time she's finally said to me "Just buy the damned thing already!" (Whatever it might be)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 16:55:29 GMT
Now it could just be that I am a student and I live on government assistance so every dollar is important but every time I am financially in a position to buy a new sword..... With all due respect BW, if you are on government assistance then you can't be in a financial position to buy a new sword, that is, if you are a responsible person. Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of getting an education to better ones self is positive, but those funds are meant for a different purpose. I can't remember if you are in the US or not but what you have written here is a huge problem in the US and one of contributors to our economic crisis. People seem to think that having spare cash lying around is a bad thing thing and so it must be spent quickly. Here in the states the majority of the middle class is only one emergency from filing BK because the idea of having at least one years living expenses in savings is lost. So my advice would be to spend more time on your books and once you have graduated and gotten a profitable job that allows for a hobby budget, then perhaps the gravity of spending money on swords will diminish. Problem Solved! Good luck
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 17:01:24 GMT
Marabunta: that is good advice, no I'm not in the US. What I get paid from the government goes into my food and rent and such. The money I was talking about came from my parents . If it were just government money I wouldn't spend it on anything other than being alive. However the danger of that is that you can grow to resent what little you have because you never actually enjoy it. I very rarely purchase anything that isn't food or paying rent even with the money my parents give me, so I thought it might be nice to buy myself a Christmas present as I can't see myself buying any swords for the next year or two.
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Post by genocideseth on Dec 3, 2009 19:41:17 GMT
I feel your pain BW.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 20:36:58 GMT
Marabunta: that is good advice, no I'm not in the US. What I get paid from the government goes into my food and rent and such. The money I was talking about came from my parents . If it were just government money I wouldn't spend it on anything other than being alive. However the danger of that is that you can grow to resent what little you have because you never actually enjoy it. I very rarely purchase anything that isn't food or paying rent even with the money my parents give me, so I thought it might be nice to buy myself a Christmas present as I can't see myself buying any swords for the next year or two. Nothing at all wrong with that. I tell my wife (and kids) all the time that you have to enjoy life, spend a little, live a lot- otherwise it all seems rather pointless....toiling for some day that may never come for you, you know?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 23:06:24 GMT
I'm pretty big on fiscal responsibility. Swords are fun but... they aren't essential. I can't imagine spending anything non-essential if I don't have a buffer of 3 month's salary saved up.
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