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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 11:27:28 GMT
hi, new member here. i'm looking to buy a "beater" european medieval style sword.
i'll be carrying it when i'm out fishing, hunting or just roaming in the scandinavian woods. so i need something that doesn't get in the way when it rests in the scabbard. but it still has to be long enough to make it a useful sword.
i've been measuring, and i have concluded that a one-handed sword with a blade length of 28" should be about ideal. staying within my budget, darksword medieval knight and darksword norman seems like obvious candidates.
what do you guys think is the best compromise?
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Post by Eaglehawk on Oct 29, 2009 14:02:17 GMT
What is your budget?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 14:32:40 GMT
I would recommend getting a falchion. It's short (relatively) and should have great durability. Maybe VA practical falchion when it comes out?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 29, 2009 15:28:27 GMT
Hi Steffen, welcome to SBG. I'm not a fan of DSA swords but there are those people who love them, so while I won't tell you not to get one (because you could be one of those who love them) I will try to offer some alternatives for you to consider. first how about this: www.kultofathena.com/product~item~IP7032~name~Generation+2+Henry+V+Sword.htmGeneration 2 has long had the reputation of being super tough and they come with a good sharp edge ready to use right out of the box. the DSA will be blunt and they are notoriously hard to sharpen. if you can expand your budget a bit here's a great option: www.kultofathena.com/product~item~CF403~name~Valiant+Armory+Signature+Edition+Bristol+Sword.htmValiant Armory makes some top quality stuff these days and the Bristol is one of their best loved blades. it meet your size requirement and is beautiful and sharp with a very nice scabbard and belt all ready for you to wear. this sword is above your stated buget but I thougt I'd mention it because I think it is pronbably your best match. there is the Valiant Falchion that will be coming out soon that might be your best option of all but we'll have to wait to see. to give you an idea what it will be like you can read this thread over at the valiant forum: www.custom-sword-shoppe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=226&sid=b8a219b458a16b641ed8584feadc2a5b it's got a picture of the ATrim Falchion this will be based off of. if you must get a sword that will need sharpening try to nab one of the remaining Windlass type XIV classic medieval arming swords. they are a wonderful little piece of steel and right in your budget. that's all I'm coming up with right now unless you want to spend a LOT more money. good swords of the type you want are in short supply in our price range. EDIT: appearently the link to the Valiant forum thread that I posted earlier also logged some people in as me. I hope no one whent there and said some nasty things in my name (I really don't think anyone here would, but . . .) this new link should not do that I hope. if it does will some one please tell me, thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 16:36:33 GMT
OOooohhhh...falchion. If I were the OP, I'd definitely go for that- right up his alley based on what he's given us. Welcome to the SBG Forum, Steffen.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 29, 2009 16:41:41 GMT
yeah I agree on the falchion, except who likes to wait?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 18:15:22 GMT
Well, there is a Windlass German Falchion which is surprisingly good sword for Windlass. I liked it much more than famous type XIV. Windlass has some very good blades, they just have crappy hilts sometimes. And that whole whippy story is way exaggerated.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 19:34:56 GMT
I think I know where my emergency sword money will go to.
But back to the OP's topic:
If you need the sword sooner then later, then I'd go for the Gen2 Henry V. I'm in a similar situation as you in that I've been needing a 1 hander, but I'm gonna wait for the VA Practical Falchion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 20:36:39 GMT
thanks for your replies.
i haven't thought of a falchion, but it seems to be perfect for my use. the only problem is that i cant find a falchion i want.
*windlass archers falchion: it looks very good, has a suitable length(21"), but it seems to have been discontinued. *windlass medieval/german falchion: its so long that i can just as well buy a double edged sword, and it didn't come out well in the review. *valiant armoury medieval falchion: very heavy and handled poorly(according to the review). *cold steel grosse messer: too long.
if you were to buy a falchion (maximum 250$) which one would you get?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 20:46:27 GMT
Ok, Valiant Armoury's old line, I agree with- overweight, not very pretty. Their NEW lines, however, are at the opposite end of the scale, solidly built but handy, and very easy on the eyes.
If you could wait for it, I'd go with the VA/Atrim Falchion, but if you could not, I'd go with the Windlass ones...even discontinued swords show up at other of their resellers, like Kult of Athena, silvermane, Imperial Weapons- try them out. Jason from Imperial Weapons actually posts on this board as trueswordsman so if you see him, get at him with your questions if you're not yet satisfied here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 20:54:01 GMT
Which review of the German falchion you read? This myarmoury one is quite positive: www.myarmoury.com/review_mrl_falc.htmlIt is a bit long but shorter than most double edged singlehanders. Of course, there are shortswords like Windlass type XIV and no falchion is shorter than them... It is actually less than an inch longer than type XIV.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 22:47:41 GMT
i've just had a great idea!
i'll buy a windlass pirate cutlass and remove the basket. it has a 22,5" blade, the same thickness as the windlass falchion, and the blade is only slightly curved.
but if the new Valiant Armoury falchion comes out very soon, i'll buy that instead.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2009 6:27:09 GMT
Well, after seeing how the hilt was put together, I'm assuming you mean "take the basket off" as in, take a dremmel (or something like it) and cut the metal away from the main cross guard, then polish out the rough areas. I'm just a rookie to the whole sword scene, but as far as I can tell, that doesn't look like to much of a bad idea. You'll probably notice the handling won't be as good as some say, but that's because you are removing metal from your side of the balancing point. What exactly do you intend to use this blade for anyway? I mean, don't get me wrong, hiking through the wilderness with a sword strapped to your sides sounds like a cavalier idea, but if you are looking for something to just clear small branches and forest growth outta your way, perhaps you should look into a machete? However, it's hard to find a heat treated machete, even if it is forged from a high carbon steel. Edit: www.coldsteel.com/machetes.html(be sure to watch the video, it's rather awesome) I personally own the "Heavy Machete" and the 24" "Latin Machete", and at under 20 dollars per blade, there isn't anything I won't swing at. Now put a 300 dollar sword in my hand and I'll probably avoid using it "just to see if it can take it." I've seen the heavy machete chop thru a gallon milk jug filled with water. I know I know, you're thinking "Big deal!" Well I forgot to mention the water was frozen ;D BUT if it's a sword you are looking for, then a sword you shall get! I just thought I'd give you the idea of a machete for the practicality of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2009 10:33:51 GMT
Custom Tactical sword from Scorpionbows. You can design it yourself and if you want a falchion get a tactical falchion. That's a durable as a sword can be and if the design's right it will also behave like one. Price is about 250-270$.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2009 14:43:24 GMT
Another good idea; and the maker has a presence here on SBG so you'd have a direct line to the man making it for you. Can't beat that...unless you wait for the VA one.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 30, 2009 16:00:23 GMT
just a thought but you might want to take a look at this web site: www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com/Sandata.htmltheir blades tend to be shorter than your desired blade length but that will be even easier to manage and carry around. I own one of their swords and it's a very high quality item. maybe not your style though but worth a look still
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2009 19:27:15 GMT
If you wouldnt mind a blade thats a hare longer than 28" and youd like a double-edged sword instead of a single edged one, theres always a good number of shortswords out there, and a hangar would be a good idea as well.
A hangar is simply a pirate style sword like a cutlass but instead of a basket its got a simpler bowie-style gaurd. I believe windlass makes one and windlass is pretty good quality for the money
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2009 20:42:19 GMT
So Steffen,
Did you make a purchase yet? I've been checking back to this post wondering which sword you chose to suit your needs, and if you've taken it out and about yet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 22:03:09 GMT
Hello
Have you given consideration to a viking style blade - they tend to be pretty good at being "not in the way" due to them not being too long and modest quillons (crossguard).
cheers,
Ancalagon
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 23:15:25 GMT
Two pages of good replies and no one has stated the obvious to the OP: A good Swordsman should worry less about the length of his blade and concerns himself more with how he wields it! ;D
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