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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 1:56:14 GMT
At least you guys have kits, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 7:14:01 GMT
I might put together a soft hospitaller kit soon if I have the time and money and a Halloween party to go to. I really like the look of your kit, trueswordsman, it seems really effective and practical but still decent-looking, if I were to put a kit together I think I might want something similar.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 16:37:55 GMT
buliwyf...that is an excellent looking piece...glad you kept it too. Something to pass on to the kids, right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 22:54:38 GMT
I might put together a soft hospitaller kit soon if I have the time and money and a Halloween party to go to. I really like the look of your kit, trueswordsman, it seems really effective and practical but still decent-looking, if I were to put a kit together I think I might want something similar. Thanks, as my fighting has improved I have gradually decreased the weight (pieces of steel), thus increasing speed. It takes a while to feel confident in your defense enough to drop some of the plate. I do plan on dropping the leather curass, which is hidden under the tabbard and going with a gambeson like TSafa's. The fabric of the padded gambeson allows the heat to get out, unlike the leather, which traps the heat in. It just won't provide as much protection.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 23:40:24 GMT
As I read more and more, I realize I need a lot of work on my kit. Since I'm going for early 13th C, my kit is mostly chainmail with a few plate bits added. Maybe I got it wrong, but were hauberks leather-backed? Any historical significance or precedence that anyone can think of?
Maybe it is just the historical fiction I've been reading but I've read more than one reference to mail backed with leather, although I doubt they're sewed or glued as such...maybe just a jerkin and breaches in leather?
Maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to have a set made...would be marginally more comfy than what I'm currently working with; a POS gambeson from MRL (you could just call it a shirt and be absolutely correct, but for some odd reason, the damn arms are padded lol) and some linen pants underneath.
I'm rambling...must be time to eat. Later folks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2009 23:43:29 GMT
Ebon, let's see that kit o' yours. I thought you said you were gonna take a few pics and throw 'em up...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2009 3:06:45 GMT
Tsafa, looks like you have put a good 14th century kit together. I really like the new legs. Are they aluminum? Where did you get your gambeson? The legs are all Aluminum. Once you put them on a polisher, few people can tell. The Gambeson is from Rival Clothing ($325). I don't like that they have linen on the outside. The linen is wearing at all friction points after a year. They should have done the outside same as the inside with cotton. I just got a tailor made one in cream to reflect sunlight better. Cost me about $275. Rival US gives the best value for the dollar at about $180. I should have just got that. If you can, buy it at Gulf Wars, where I am sure they have a both where you can try it on. Make sure you can raise you arms without he whole thing pulling up. Also make sure the sleeves are snug around your arm from the elbow to the wrist. If there is too much slack there it will interfere with your elbow cops. You need a little slack under the armpit, but not too much so it bunches up. One very useful skill to develop is how to make your own arming points. I have grommets on the shoulders, elbows and forearm. Use a pick to make a hole, spread with needle nose pliers and apply fray spray to reinforce. Then set the grommets. Rivet leather to any plates you have and tie the leather to the arming points with shoe laces. You want at least four grommets on the shoulders and elbow to spread the weight of the plate out. If you armor is heavy mild steel, then use leather on the inside to the gambson to rienforce as you tie the plates on. It feels kind of weird taking a beautiful new gambson and to start punching holes into it, but when the grommets all go in an you now look at it, it no longer looks like a jacket. It now looks unmistakeably like armor.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2009 15:42:07 GMT
Bryn yea, was supposed to do it over the weekend but it never happened. I'll get'm up soon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2009 20:53:59 GMT
That's me right now. I haven't gotten off my butt to get my Shan Wen Kia put together in awhile... Well, I have new legs. Those are the loaners I was using for awhile. You can see the new legs in the video of Tsafa and me fighting Mine is currently more the kind of kit you put together scavenging the battlefield and patching it together with bits of leather...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 8:00:48 GMT
Here is my 1410 harness before I sized/cut down the straps. I am not wearing the mitten gauntlets, gorget, or helm in the photo: Here is the klappvisor helm/aventail that goes with it: And of course, my infamous Ravenswood soft leather kit...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 12:40:24 GMT
Odingaard! Very nice, both kits, but I am drooling over the 1410 kit....especially the helm.
I hope to have one similar to that in the future. I am going to fore go the breast plate at my own risk, as I need speed. Though it would be nice to have one for melee combat.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 12:59:17 GMT
Odingaard, that klappvisor...would it be a Armstreet product? If so, I've often wondered how good their armor was...very solid looking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 20:41:31 GMT
odingaurds stuff makes me happy and jeleaous
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 23:54:15 GMT
Odingaard, that klappvisor...would it be a Armstreet product? If so, I've often wondered how good their armor was...very solid looking. The helm is the 14ga GDFB one. However, I had to add the riveted aventail, aventail mount, straps, and lining. It was a bit of an undertaking. I had hoped to save money, but even with wholesale pricing on some of the stuff, it still ended up costing about $400.00 to make. Thanks for the complements!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 20:49:55 GMT
This is my kit:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 23:06:33 GMT
Impressive. Most impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2009 0:37:33 GMT
Armoredsaint! That is a very nice kit indeed! Did you have it all custom made. Is it difficult to keep from rusting? What type of combat do you wear it for?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2009 1:05:28 GMT
I LOVE THESE KITS!!!! They all look GREAT. Most imposing!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2009 13:19:44 GMT
Yes, it's all custom made, some of it the work of my own hand. Most of it, though, is the work of Patrick Thaden of Denton, Texas. It is indeed difficult to keep it free of rust, but I manage. Just a little olive oil, some 3M pads, and a lot of elbow grease... I wear it mostly for SCA combat, but also dabble in living history and Western Martial Arts. It is a mix of 12, 14, 16, and 18 gauges of steel. Including the arming doublet and mail voiders, skirt, and standard that I wear underneath, the whole suit weighs about 71 pounds. I don't always wear every component of the harness every time I wear it into combat. Here are a few more photos of me wearing it at an SCA demo a couple of months ago, worn with my newly-purchased heavier armharness. Note that I have left off the voiders, sabatons, and pauldron reinforces at this time, and am wearing a pair of gauntlets more suitable to SCA combat. Ignore the fact that my left pauldron is loose in the pictures... Armoredsaint! That is a very nice kit indeed! Did you have it all custom made. Is it difficult to keep from rusting? What type of combat do you wear it for?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2009 16:32:41 GMT
I am glad to hear that it gets some good combat under it's belt! I bet you are the star of the demos with that kit.
I have found that those who go the extra mile like you have for the authentic kit are at a disadvantage when fighting in the SCA do to the extra weight. Though at some point it becomes about the history and authenticity rather than the fighting.
+1 to you for doing it right!
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