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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 0:47:52 GMT
I was just on Christian Fletcher's website, and noticed two lines produced by Angus Trim- The "maker's mark", and the "legacy" line. What is the difference between the two? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 1:20:40 GMT
The legacy line is the older line, and the maker's mark consists of his newest models. I am still thinking of purchasing your 303S, by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 7:53:33 GMT
Thanks for the help. Now if only I had $500...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 10:52:15 GMT
It's my pleasure. Sword buying can be a very stressful hobby.
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Post by enkidu on Aug 25, 2009 21:11:17 GMT
So true, each time i receive my credit card bill i'm stressed out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 10:58:37 GMT
At least you don't have a limit.
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Post by enkidu on Aug 26, 2009 20:11:30 GMT
Yep, my nerve's one. And my wife's one too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 20:23:33 GMT
The legacy line is the older line, and the maker's mark consists of his newest models. I am still thinking of purchasing your 303S, by the way. Think too long and its gone...see? I've never seen one go so low before, he really wanted to move it. Think of what you could've done with it...hell, I'm gonna have Odingaard do a new grip, a wrap and a scabbard wrap for mine; or maybe I'll wait til the VA Custom Shop opens and get a new grip, guard and pommel, make it a new sword. Options, lots of options...but none apply if you don't have one of your own. I say that because I think you're holding out for that 'One True Sword' that will be the epitome of all you want it to be- but your tastes are varied, not limited to just one type or style of sword so the waiting game doesn't make as much sense then. You could wait, save up for a $1500+ sword but would that be the end of it? There you have that one sword, but for the same money, you could've had 5 or 6 of the VA Practical, 3 or 4 of the VA Signature, 3 or 4 of the Hanwei Tinkerline, 3 actual Atrims, or 3 Albion squire lines, or even 2 of the Next-Gen lineup; about 5 DSA, half a dozen Gen2's or even a dozen Windlasses if you pick'm up on eBay OR- that ONE sword. Figure out which scenario suits you best- then pursue it. I notice you've become quite knowledgeable about swords since you first came here, but its all printed matter and hearsay- until you get one of your own in-hand. That makes all the difference in the world. Besides, you'll only drive yourself nuts playing the waiting game...
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 26, 2009 20:34:53 GMT
^ What he said... Also of note... I would not want a $1,000 dollar custom for my first sword... 1. I have no idea what I like that that point... 2. If I damage it due to my inexperinces with swords I'd be crushed. You really are best of getting 2-3 decent swords of different types... working with them for a time, learning what you like and don't like. I have bought/sold/traded SO many swords over the past year... in an effort to handle and experince as many different types of swords and different makers as I could. I'm starting to zero in on what I like, what works for me... but I still have a lot of other swords types and makers to experince before I TRUELY know what I like... ...its a life-long hobby, your not going to get it right the first shot out of the gate... just GET STARTED and start learning what you like man!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 3:51:27 GMT
I'm really out for a longsword at the moment, and my tax return is gonna be 1500AUS, I could get one sword which will have to last me nearly another 12 months so I've kinda got my eye on an Atrim. And seen as our dollar is at 83cUS I've likely only need to pay another hundred or so ....... Two questions 1) How goes things like instocks with CF's website or whats the best method of obtaining an Atrim 2) Atrim or Albion, what would you choose
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 4:14:52 GMT
I'm really out for a longsword at the moment, and my tax return is gonna be 1500AUS, I could get one sword which will have to last me nearly another 12 months so I've kinda got my eye on an Atrim. And seen as our dollar is at 83cUS I've likely only need to pay another hundred or so .......
How goes things like instocks with CF's website or whats the best method of obtaining an Atrim, does he have plenty of stock, are there long waiting periods, what am I facing when buying a genuine Atrim???
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 27, 2009 5:29:32 GMT
i am currently waiting on a CF/AT sword and will be waiting for a little while due to some choices I made. I'm ok with that but my point is: it all depends. if it says "in stock" and you want it just the way it is with no gussying up by Mr. Fletcher then off you go just like ordering from KoA I would think. at least that's the impression I have gotten from Mr. Fletcher and others. if you want custom work Christian says he is working about nine months out so by the time you get that sword you will likely be about ready to buy another one. so make sure what you want is in stock and shoot an email to CF to varify. that way all should be good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 6:40:29 GMT
I cant seem to make my mind up with these, the AT-1415 Type XIIa seems to be the template the VA Prac LS was based off, if I'm going a first Atrim seems a little bland I feel I'm just second guessing myself. My other thought is the AT-1521 Type XVIIIb with the longer handle and diamond cross-section this might be a go-er but I'm worried as nice as the diamond profile is (and thrust bias) does anyone know if it lacks in the cut ?? of course this could just be the paranoid buyers jitters ...... opinions I'm hoping to advance my studies of german longsword and utilise the technique in my bottle cutting, anyone got a reccomendation for that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 10:21:10 GMT
Brissy,
If you are looking for a base Atrim (no customizing from CF) check CF's site. If there is an "In Stock" marked on the item it is ready to go. You might want a leather sheath from CF to keep it in (costs about $100 extrta) and that'll add a little extra time. Unfortunately (for us) there are not many items in stock. If the item is not in stock, let Christian know through his site which sword you are interested in and he will let Gus know. This kinda gives Gus a heads up on what is in demand. This is not a pre-order. When I did this I got notice within 3 months that the sword I wanted was in stock. Less than 2 weeks later I had it in hand.
Any customizing you want by Christian is going to add to the time.
Keep one thing in mind about Atrims: They are about function not prettiness. You will NOT be disappointed in the handling or cutting of the sword. For prettiness I guess Atrims can be considered "bland".
If you want fancy finish and polish work with Christian to dress it up. Or go with an Albion. But for pure performance I think a base Atrim is the best bang for the buck (purely my opinion).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 10:40:05 GMT
Wow! You and I share the same sort of taste in swords mate, I was thinking how much I'd like one of these to continue my studies of the swordsman's companion. ATrim's are definitely not the belle of the ball but boy with the stats on these blades there is no arguing price or handling. As to the diamond profile being thrust oriented, this is true but if your technique is good you shouldn't see any marked decrease in your ability to cut. These swords are designed to cut and thrust, or they should be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 11:40:29 GMT
I am not going to get a custom sword any time soon. I am trying to pick two swords out of four, and it is very challenging since my tastes vary.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Aug 27, 2009 13:09:53 GMT
I wouldn't advise getting the $100 leather sheath. Did you see the one in Kristie's review? Seriously ugly. And with certain forumites now doing custom scabbards for cheap (I AM NOT blatantly advertising... for once. I'm actually trying to help. ;D), you could get a wood core lether wrapped scabbard for just a little more. I haven't heard much about the ATrims you're interested in, but I'd suggest PMing Mike. He has quite a few ATrims and has more than likely handled those that he doesn't own. He's really the guy to go to for educated opinions, IMO. -Slayer
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Post by ShooterMike on Aug 27, 2009 20:40:47 GMT
I cant seem to make my mind up with these, the AT-1415 Type XIIa seems to be the template the VA Prac LS was based off, if I'm going a first Atrim seems a little bland I feel I'm just second guessing myself. My other thought is the AT-1521 Type XVIIIb with the longer handle and diamond cross-section this might be a go-er but I'm worried as nice as the diamond profile is (and thrust bias) does anyone know if it lacks in the cut ?? of course this could just be the paranoid buyers jitters ...... opinions I'm hoping to advance my studies of german longsword and utilise the technique in my bottle cutting, anyone got a reccomendation for that Quick Alert: It looks like the AT1520 and AT1521 are both now in-stock at Christian Fletcher's. I love the stats and looks of them both. They are close to the same size. The 1520 being a slightly beefier sword with more power. The 1521 is ever so slightly shorter, but is significantly lighter. I think both would be excellent for the German school of longsword. I have a 1521 with a very long grip. It is an amazingly fast and nimble sword. Good luck if you choose one of these. But I'm pretty sure you'll love either one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 5:59:34 GMT
See its a hard fact to deny. Okay ........ brainstorm .......... Say the VA Signature Malatesta ......... pretty much will have a VA Practical LS blade I'm assuming, and if say the AT-1415 Type XIIa's blade is what the Practical LS was based off, and supposing they will do Malatesta Regals later if I bought the Malatesta would I be able to purchase the AT-1415 Type XIIa and mount its blade into the malatesta hilt and scabbard ? I'm putting money away as of now in anticipation of the malatesta's arrival but hey if I have enough for a Regal Malatesta by the time the signature one is shipping I might do that and have it peened and extra nice with a little more TLC. I get the aesthetic impression that a Regal will essentially be what the prototypes of the signatures are but in whatever color you want. You've gotten your mits on the Regal Krieg and Monarch Mike whats your feeling on that notion
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Post by ShooterMike on Sept 23, 2009 18:30:31 GMT
Sorry, just saw this question.
I think the Regal Line is a maybe at this point. And the ATrim-made blades will not likely fit in a scabbard made for a Chinese-made blade.
If the Regal Line swords actually materialize, and they really reuse the hilt components from the original Signature swords, then I think you're accurately describing them.
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