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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 3:24:16 GMT
Yes, welcome to the forum, if your talking about the one from Hanwei, the one that is solid forged blade/hitlpommel, That makes it interesting, but I would not get it my self, But thats my opinion....SanMarc. Yes, the one piece from Hanwei. From what I have seen, they want a lot of monney for it, and there is the possibility of breakidge at the cross hilt, since there is no flex as with a tang pluss hilt/pommel assembly........
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Post by musicalpoo on Aug 24, 2009 7:44:47 GMT
When I was five I made some vambraces out of electrical tape Wrapped four lairs of tape around a stick with the same diameter as mah arm (and roughly the same shape, they fit quite nicely), sliced it off, punched some holes, and ta-da! I has vambraces
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 11:43:41 GMT
That gives me an idea, musicalpoo. If I had some cardboard I could wrap it up in duct tape and then spray paint it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 16:23:22 GMT
Just for looks, right? OR...buy the real deal and not only look cooler, but have some protection as well?
I've seen some really good looking costume stuff, though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 19:40:09 GMT
Just for looks, of course. Carboard, duct tape, and spray paint cost a lot less than armor, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 19:47:25 GMT
Yes of course; a lot less durable too. lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 19:52:07 GMT
Indeed, but a man has to make do with what he has, right? I know that you are a fellow crusades fan, Ebon, so I need some of your thoughts on single handed medieval swords. Between the Hanwei/Tinker Norman and the H/T EMSHS, which do you think is a more crusade-like sword? I know that they could both pass, but which one do you think would have been more common? The Norman has a cruciform guard, so I am thinking that it would be the answer, but the EMSHS has a type XII blade and a wheel pommel, so although the type X blade would have been used during the crusades as well, do you think that it was on its last legs, so to speak?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 20:47:50 GMT
Odingaard what time period did you want to replicte? That leather armour doesn't seem to match the viking time your weapons suggest. Besides, is that leather boilded or treatd with wax?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 21:33:51 GMT
OK I always get mixed up with armor pieces.Paldrons go over your shoulder and vambraces go over your upper arm like these. If these are vambraces I guess I have a pair to put in the classifieds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 21:40:03 GMT
Vambraces go over your forearms, don't they?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 24, 2009 23:30:00 GMT
Vambraces = fore-arms Rerbrace = upper arms Spaulders = small over-shoulder clam-shell with lames thingies Pauldrons = big over shoulder things coverin tops and sides of shoulders. later period think gothic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 0:03:11 GMT
Thank you for clearing that up, Tom. I have been reading a thread on myarmoury about how to grip viking swords. To me it sounds like the large pommel on the Tinker viking could make gripping it uncomfortable. Luka, Brissybeater, and anyone else with viking swords, can you tell me if gripping the Hanwei viking will be more difficult than a sword with a round pommel?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 0:40:54 GMT
So that makes these vambraces I thought these bracers. what are the first pieces I posted called?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 4:41:39 GMT
Jonathan, I don't think the pommel on the viking make's it more uncomfortable its just different. The handle on the tinker is long enough to be held in a hammergrip. Personally I'm not that confident with the handshake grip/gripping the pommel because I feel that my fingers are not long enough. And if you do find it uncomfortable you can always try some gloves.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Aug 25, 2009 5:50:15 GMT
buliwyf, being that they are fantasy pieces they are a bit hardert o classify and please remember that all my info I got from what I picked up listening to folks talk whom I think know something so I am no studied expert or anything.
since they are attached at the shoulder, and have lames that hang down I would call your first piece spaulders.
as I understand it Bracers are not full forearm in length but rather like over grown bracelets, think old fashioned hercules movies and such the things that cover from the wrist to about halfway to the elbow. those are bracers, or that's what I'd call them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 6:19:01 GMT
He he gotta love those, well used by heavy metal guys providing their covered with spikes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 6:36:32 GMT
Odingaard what time period did you want to replicte? That leather armour doesn't seem to match the viking time your weapons suggest. Besides, is that leather boilded or treatd with wax? My items are not supposed to match actually. I was not replicating any particular time period or culture, but rather was just doing an inspirational look for a Viking-like D&D character I used to play. The closest thing to actually historically accurate my outfit would have been would have be about 5th to 6th century Northern Frankish/Germanic. Of course, my weaponry is incorrect for that time frame, but then again, I was not trying to be accurate. I have other more-authentic kits for living history events. For those that do not know, there is very little evidence for leather armor being used (it does not last very well over the centuries) in medieval Europe other than a few historical footnotes here and there and a couple of nods in period literature/art. We know that it probably did exist, but the details are sketchy at best. Most leather armor items re-created today prior to leather gambesons/jerkins of the Renaissance are pure speculation because there are no existing historical examples to draw upon. Lastly, the leather I am wearing is wet-formed and wax hardened, so in answer to your last question, yes and yes....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 10:57:39 GMT
I still think that you have "cool" armor. When it comes to historical accuracy, sometimes I just roll my eyes. Thanks for the information about the viking grip, Bart. Does anyone else know anything about gripping a viking sword?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:01:13 GMT
Odingaard I like the garb your wearing it goes great together.I have several leather parts and pieces around that could be put together to make something.I would think most dark ages/mid evil warriors unless they were rich would get whatever they could pickup from the battlefield to wear for protection.The better class of knight you kill the better parts of armor you get. It's a blast putting stuff together and making something to wear to the renfest/dragon con or even a Halloween party.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 14:46:51 GMT
Indeed, but a man has to make do with what he has, right? I know that you are a fellow crusades fan, Ebon, so I need some of your thoughts on single handed medieval swords. Between the Hanwei/Tinker Norman and the H/T EMSHS, which do you think is a more crusade-like sword? I know that they could both pass, but which one do you think would have been more common? The Norman has a cruciform guard, so I am thinking that it would be the answer, but the EMSHS has a type XII blade and a wheel pommel, so although the type X blade would have been used during the crusades as well, do you think that it was on its last legs, so to speak? Norman is appropriate for the first crusade and first half of the 12th century and EMSHS for the latter part of the crusades. You could see a poor knight with a Norman through out crusades, but you won't see anybody with EMSHS in the first crusade.
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