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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 21:12:50 GMT
This is the least professional conversation I've had with a company in a long time. Please, keep showing us how you run your company. Dude your gonna get temp banned I would stop Stop what? I said I've heard bad stories from people over the years, and instead of the company coming here and saying "hey, if you ever have a bad experience with us, tell us and we'll like to make it right.", they are here threatening the forum rules on me and getting confrontational. I'm supposed to remember the exact time and date and person who said this to me 6 months ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago or else my opinion is bunk apparently. They are making themselves look worse by how they are replying. I actually considered a ko katana from their scratch and dent sale before this. I think I'm good now.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 20:59:48 GMT
Dud you just link an article about flu deaths in 1918? Assuming a fit 20 year old in the year 2020 is supplementing correctly with the correct medicines like fever reducers and such, the chances of them dying from the flu are very slim. <sigh>...nope...I just can't even... And I quote: "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that people ages 65 and older account for between 71% and 85% of flu-related deaths and 54% to 70% of flu-related hospitalizations in the U.S."
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 20:45:17 GMT
Didnt say that's that "only" time you do it, just saying that a poor argument, using Amazon and Ebay as an example. Because again, they force you to be a good seller or they give you the boot. So it was useless for you to bring it up. You can do whatever you want on your own website, so all we have is your word on those numbers. You made the claims, now it is time to back them up. Please provide the links to these threads where Ronin has sent out defective products and then told people to "go pound sand" when they asked for an exchange or return. Don't come back and make excuses, post the links. Don't offer opinion or speculation. You are getting exactly what you were looking for here. This is the least professional conversation I've had with a company in a long time. Please, keep showing us how you run your company.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 20:42:32 GMT
So Ronin will only return or exchange if we are forced to do so by a 3rd party? That is quite a claim, and actually pretty insulting to me personally. Somehow I don't think you care however. There is no further point in responding to you. Didnt say that's that "only" time you do it, just saying that a poor argument, using Amazon and Ebay as an example. Because again, they force you to be a good seller or they give you the boot. So it was useless for you to bring it up. You can do whatever you want on your own website, so all we have is your word on those numbers. This is the least professional conversation I've had with a company for awhile.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 20:37:32 GMT
Of course you have good feedback on ebay and amazon, because you're forced to help the customer. If you do not take care of the customer, Amazon or eBay will step in and it will hurt your seller reputation. You get strikes on those websites as a seller. So it's in your best interest to take care of people who buy from you through those vendors. And I cant remember which people posted what over the last few years. Just that some people have bought through your site and was unhappy with loose wraps and soft heat treat and were told to go pack sand. I'm sure if I googled hard enough I could find some examples. And your silk isnt real either. Is saying that considered bashing as well? So Ronin will only return or exchange if we are forced to do so by a 3rd party? That is quite a claim, and actually pretty insulting to me personally. Somehow I don't think you care however. There is no further point in responding to you. Didnt say that's that "only" time you do it, just saying that a poor argument, using Amazon and Ebay as an example. Because again, they force you to be a good seller or they give you the boot. So it was useless for you to bring it up. You can do whatever you want on your own website, so all we have is your word on those numbers.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 19:40:34 GMT
Keep going, I dont even need to say much. You are doing an excellent job showing how you conduct business right here. I'm allowed to say what I've heard from other customers. That's not "bashing". Bashing would be if I said you suck, or your swords are crap, or your company is stupid. Didnt do that. Stop trying to police your customer base and forum members from just sharing their experiences. Well, lets look at what you have posted so far... Judging purely from what I've read over the years, the cold steel will have better quality control and if you buy from a reputable dealer like amazon, ebay, or even cold steel themselves, you will be protected moreso than the Ronin, which I've heard horror stories about trying to contact them about issues people have had with their products. Returning items, getting a replacement, or having a smaller issue fixed will be much easier with Cold Steel. Ronin's feedback on ebay as a direct dealer is at 100% with over 1000 reviews. A pretty large sample size. Ronin also sells on Amazon. If someone wants a return or refund there, they get it per Amazon policy. No problems there for Ronin. KoA and SBG have sold thousands of Ronins. Each has their own return policies. If Ronin were acting as you claim, would they keep burning their customers? So that leaves buying from Ronin directly. As you are claiming to have read all of these horror stories, please link them here. Ronin has sold 10's of thousands of swords so according to you, as this is a problem and we only take care of a few people, there should be threads all over the place. Again, not what I've heard from a few other people but I'm sure they have to treat some people well here and there to not go out of business. And you can tell the difference between fake and real silk if you handle the sword in person and have experience with what each feels like. Please feel free to back up everything you have posted. If there is a huge problem out there, I would certainly like to know about it. Of course you have good feedback on ebay and amazon, because you're forced to help the customer. If you do not take care of the customer, Amazon or eBay will step in and it will hurt your seller reputation. You get strikes on those websites as a seller. So it's in your best interest to take care of people who buy from you through those vendors. And I cant remember which people posted what over the last few years. Just that some people have bought through your site and was unhappy with loose wraps and soft heat treat and were told to go pack sand. I'm sure if I googled hard enough I could find some examples. And your silk isnt real either. Is saying that considered bashing as well?
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 18:52:36 GMT
That's why I said "generally" and "high success chance". Its not common for younger, fit people to die of the flu, but i know it can happen every once in awhile. www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.htmlThere is nothing other than luck and flu vaccines which are preventing this from happening again. Influenza can, and has, been particularly fatal for 20-40 year olds. There is a much higher likelihood of an influenza strain to pose a significant risk to healthy populations than a coronavirus. We can't be certain about how this current coronavirus will play out, but SARS and MERS seem to be more of an individual risk than this new strain from Wuhan is shaping up to be (though it has a higher transmission rate). Dud you just link an article about flu deaths in 1918? Assuming a fit 20 year old in the year 2020 is supplementing correctly with the correct medicines like fever reducers and such, the chances of them dying from the flu are very slim.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 18:48:38 GMT
From what I've been reading, all he said is that this isn't what he heard/wasn't his experience- how is that bashing? This is starting to become a really nasty trend among vendors/businessmen apparently, reminds me my own experience contacting Cheness. Instead of going after Shepherd by mod-baiting with the rules in an attempt to censor his opinions, why not just respond with something professional like "I assure you this isn't the case, we treat all our clients with equal care" or something to the affect? Get woke, go broke I guess. A nasty trend among companies? From my perspective it is rather unfortunate that people seem to feel they can post anything they want about a company, and the company has to be polite when asking that rules be enforced. Keep going, I dont even need to say much. You are doing an excellent job showing how you conduct business right here. I'm allowed to say what I've heard from other customers. That's not "bashing". Bashing would be if I said you suck, or your swords are crap, or your company is stupid. Didnt do that. Stop trying to police your customer base and forum members from just sharing their experiences.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 3:45:47 GMT
Judging purely from what I've read over the years, the cold steel will have better quality control and if you buy from a reputable dealer like amazon, ebay, or even cold steel themselves, you will be protected moreso than the Ronin, which I've heard horror stories about trying to contact them about issues people have had with their products. Returning items, getting a replacement, or having a smaller issue fixed will be much easier with Cold Steel. All you do is contact them and send the old product back and they send a new one, I have done it and ronin has just as good service as anyone else. Again, not what I've heard from a few other people but I'm sure they have to treat some people well here and there to not go out of business. And you can tell the difference between fake and real silk if you handle the sword in person and have experience with what each feels like.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 3:41:34 GMT
I'm not an expert or up to date on the details but it seems like the flu generally only kills old people, infants or people in poor shape. The corona is killing those people but also healthy, younger people. That's why its scary and such a big deal. A fit 25 year old can ride out the flu with high success chance. The corona virus, not so much. As with most diseases, the very young and elderly tend to have higher casualty rates, but healthy people die from influenza too. That's why I said "generally" and "high success chance". Its not common for younger, fit people to die of the flu, but i know it can happen every once in awhile.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 3:38:18 GMT
I may have gotten things wrong but, AIUI, Cheness used to make really good swords once upon a time, like a decade or more ago, but as the industry kept developing they lagged behind and then started actually getting worse in every way and are a real gamble with unfavorable odds nowadays. Not just in terms of fit and finish but actual blade quality, too. Which is such a damn shame because the Oniyuri is the only "ninja word" design I know of with any kind of claim to historical authenticity, and at least the particular one I own is really, really well made (aside from the indeed non-alternating ito... which, to be entirely fair, has been "starting to get loose" for years, now). In cases like that where it's the only one of it's kind you can find, I dont think it's a big deal to get one. That sword is very unique and special and you dont have to go through the trouble of trying to explain that type of build to a Longquan vendor. If I were into that style I'd probably get it too. I do like shorter blades but not with a 14 inch handle.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 17, 2020 3:34:42 GMT
Dude, they still dont even alternate their ito. That was >maybe< acceptable 10 years ago but they still wont do it for some reason. If ito does not alternate, it can unravel much easier. If they cant even get something as simple as that right, what else are they not doing? You can also find tons of accounts about poor tsuka work and blades that fail. Sure, some people are happy with them. That's because they only cost 150 to 300, and these people probably dont know what to look for on a sword or dont know what else is out there. Or only cut water bottles. The competition is too strong to deal with cheness' problems anymore. Again, you could probably take a chance and get something of okay quality for 200 bucks, and you wouldnt be out much. But that guy said he emailed them about his issues and they told him to pack sand. If you filed a claim with ebay about a cracked tsuka they'd probably be in your favor. Unlike going third party with cheness and hoping they are in a good mood that day. I guess you missed the part where I said "project blade," or are unfamiliar with term. I don't care about anything other than the blade (which I would be furnishing myself). Well then I guess you missed the part where I said "if they cant even get the ito right, what else are they not getting right?" Meaning, these people cant even be bothered to wrap your handle right, which wouldnt be much harder than the way they currently do it. So why would you trust them to heat treat your project blade, or make it correctly so that its safe?
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 16, 2020 15:14:41 GMT
It's a shame that Cheness's QC apparently took a nosedive at some point; my old secondhand Oniyuri is still solid as a rock, apart from the ito starting to loosen, and a real joy to handle. Almost more like a tiny polearm than a regular sword. And at least Cheness claims it's based on a historical sword, although I've never managed to track down any outside references to confirm that... That's too bad. I had been thinking about picking a Cheness up as a project blade. How problematic are their products now? Dude, they still dont even alternate their ito. That was >maybe< acceptable 10 years ago but they still wont do it for some reason. If ito does not alternate, it can unravel much easier. If they cant even get something as simple as that right, what else are they not doing? You can also find tons of accounts about poor tsuka work and blades that fail. Sure, some people are happy with them. That's because they only cost 150 to 300, and these people probably dont know what to look for on a sword or dont know what else is out there. Or only cut water bottles. The competition is too strong to deal with cheness' problems anymore. Again, you could probably take a chance and get something of okay quality for 200 bucks, and you wouldnt be out much. But that guy said he emailed them about his issues and they told him to pack sand. If you filed a claim with ebay about a cracked tsuka they'd probably be in your favor. Unlike going third party with cheness and hoping they are in a good mood that day.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 16, 2020 13:52:17 GMT
I'm not an expert or up to date on the details but it seems like the flu generally only kills old people, infants or people in poor shape. The corona is killing those people but also healthy, younger people. That's why its scary and such a big deal. A fit 25 year old can ride out the flu with high success chance. The corona virus, not so much.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 15, 2020 16:38:19 GMT
Very nice piece. Love the green and copper.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 13, 2020 6:40:06 GMT
Judging purely from what I've read over the years, the cold steel will have better quality control and if you buy from a reputable dealer like amazon, ebay, or even cold steel themselves, you will be protected moreso than the Ronin, which I've heard horror stories about trying to contact them about issues people have had with their products. Returning items, getting a replacement, or having a smaller issue fixed will be much easier with Cold Steel.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 12, 2020 1:12:05 GMT
We shall see. I ordered the waki. If I dont like it I'll send it back and try the O tanto. If I like it I'll keep it and try the O tanto, haha.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 9, 2020 18:57:20 GMT
I am looking for a new beater. It's almost certainly going to be one of Hauweis 9260 TH swords. I am wondering if anyone has one of their unokubi zukuri blades and how much sound it makes when it's swung? I enjoy audible feedback so I'm looking to get a sword that has some. If they are not that loud I'm just going to go with the shinogi zukuri with bo-hi. Just let me know, thanks! I have had two Huawei Unokubi swords and both produced a decent audible feedback. Not super loud but noticeable.
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 9, 2020 18:54:09 GMT
Shepherd, you are correct. Any negative aspects of my Dragonfly were not bad enough for me to not like it or not keep it. I just wanted to mention them to show a clear picture of what people would be getting with the tanto. I liked the tanto enough to also keep an eye out for the Dragonfly Ko Katana. I found a Cheness Ko Katana for almost half the Dragonfly's price, so I went with that instead. I hope you like the Ko Kat. I think it looks pretty cool. How do you like the Cheness ko katana comparatively?
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Post by shepherd214 on Feb 8, 2020 22:27:01 GMT
Paul, I had considered the Chisa myself, but I think Dynasty Forge makes the exact same model but with better specs. It's called the Musha Ko katana. Same fittings and everything. I would go with that one if I were you. And yes Tancred, the dragonfly waki does seem a tad overpriced but I'd be willing to pay it to avoid the risk of China sellers and have the protection of amazon and cold steel in case something is very wrong. The waki is 324 dollars on amazon right now.
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