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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 11, 2009 21:56:39 GMT
Review points are not usable as any kind of currancy... or if they are, no one ever told me about it... heh. Marc: I very much look forward to seeing your first cuts.... and yeah, you can just show the object cut and not yourself. With my reviews, thats what I do... because the focus is on the sword and it's ability to cut... not *ME* and my ability (or lack thereof) to wield a sword.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Apr 11, 2009 23:56:23 GMT
Well they are in the cutting section of the review... jump back to page one and have a look.
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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 12, 2009 4:47:50 GMT
Well they are in the cutting section of the review... jump back to page one and have a look. Interesting... You certainly cut FAST. Multiple cuts in rapid sucsession... I do not have the confidence for that... yet. On video number 5... it looked like with you first cut you cut one bottle and the other one started falling, then you cut it while it was falling, and then cut the last bottle still on the stand... am I right? Quick. Why did you do it as a whole mess of little videos tho? You could have just made one vid of it all. I'd like to get my hands on your raptor... my shobu feels to heavy to get up the speed to cut in multiple directions as quickly as you did. Still, VERY cool to see the first ever Ridgeway video... ;D +1 for taking the plunge.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Apr 12, 2009 13:06:49 GMT
Hey Sean...
I'm not that great a cutter, but I have been doing this for a while.. so something should at least show...
It's just all about getting your form down, and then exploding.... your body will remember your form when you speed it up....
I do about three cuts per second... but would really like to get 5....
Yes , the bottle was cut as it was falling... I hate having targets fall, even after they are cut but my cutting stand sits on unlevel ground... so what you gonna do?
I didn't want to do a continuous video , because there would be a lot of boring bottle balancing going on... if I knew how to edit I would put themm all together , and addd slomo as well....
I'd say we could swap out Raptors for a week or two, but mine is on eBay... if I decide to end the auction we can do so.... what do you think?
The big difference between mine and yours is the shinogi ji... my shinogi ji are so strongly relieved that the mune ia about 1.5 mm wide....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 0:57:05 GMT
WOW marc! cutting videos! you are having another karma point and a bunch of ratings on youtube wheather you like it or not could this be the start of a new era? quote"my shinogi ji are so strongly relieved that the mune ia about 1.5 mm wide...." i really like this in a sword, i much prefer high shinogi to a hi. although i find 1.5mm hard to imagine. am i correct in believing that james raw cuts back his shinogi?
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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 13, 2009 3:03:47 GMT
I'd say we could swap out Raptors for a week or two, but mine is on eBay... if I decide to end the auction we can do so.... what do you think? Well, I would not wanna disrupt your sale... I'm debating if I'm going to sell mine also. If, however, you don't sell yours and I don't sell mine, and ya wanna do a swap... it could be interesting, because then we could add our perspectives onto the existing reviews. I'll be in your neck of the woods this next saterday... dropping by 6 flags with a friend of mine in the Coast Guard... he's going to be heading back to NorCal soon so we will hang out a bit. I really find the taper on the mune of your raptor interesting.... it gets thinner i the middle, then widder again, or so it looks... so weird... is that normaly for that style of sword?
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 13, 2009 6:24:22 GMT
Yes, that's how U-no-kubi works. It starts out like your typical shinogi- or shobu-zukuri, then the shinogi tapers off suddenly to the point where there is virtually no mune, almost a false edge, for most of the blade, until the tip which tapers just as suddenly back to a "normal" shinogi/mune.
My Raw u-no-kubi tapers to about 1.5mm or so, too. Of course, the way Mr. Raw did mine, the kissaki keeps the taper and ends as a shobu-zukuri. I've grown to like this, though.
He does, also, peefer to narrow themune rathe tan care any sort of hi, as he feels that with the tools he has, carving a decent hi is too difficult to bother with, but since tapering to the mune does the same thing, he does offer, and often incorporate, that feature.
At least, that was the explanation (paraphrased) that I got when I asked about adding hi to mine.
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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 13, 2009 6:43:07 GMT
So if all U-no-kubi have that extremly thin mune in the middle of the blade... what, may I ask, is the intent behind that design? What I mean is... the Shobu was obvously designed as a heavy slashing sword.... able to cut threw armour and deliver powerfull slicing cuts... but what is the intent behind the U-no-kubi?
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 13, 2009 7:13:30 GMT
Bear in mind that u-no-kubi is an evolution of the naginata more than anything. I imagine they tapered the blades like that to reduce the weight as much as possible to make using a naginata a bit easier, as well as reduce any stresses on the haft of the thing as much as possible. I'm not sure what factor armor may have played in the evolution of u-no-kubi...I can't really recall right now who Japan was fighting when u-no-kubi came about (China? Korea? Mongols? Japanese? ) but let me just assure you that u-no-kubi blades certainly suffer no weakness in comparison to any other blade style. If anything, they're the lightest, quickest swords out there because of the hi (generally) and taper. My Rawblade is a monster; over 1/4" thick in the mune where the habaki will eventually be, and it's about the same where it drops in to the tapered portion, but the shinogi itself is even wider, and stays pretty fat throughout the blade. Again, I'm not sure what brought about the evolution, save shortening a pole arm for whatever reason (I guess it's just easier to use as a sword? ) but that's pretty much how they came about, but rest assured, they are quite capable.
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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 13, 2009 13:47:30 GMT
Can't wait to try one... ...tho the portruding mune on the back of the kissaki on the raptor just looks really weird to me.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Apr 13, 2009 14:39:40 GMT
The diamond crossection is shobu geometry... your shobu should be similar. The idea that shobu are big , massive blades id a bit off... and skewed by various modern interpretations of shobu.... sure the sue-bizen style of shobu was very robust, but not all.... I'd have expected your shobu to be like the unokubi in terms of the high shinogi....
AFA that goes... the Raptor shinogi ji are more strongly relieved than any other U-no-kubi style blade I 've ever handled.....
Random.... the fact that your Rawblade ends in a shobu tip rather than going back to shinogi-zukuri makea it a Kanmuri Otoshi
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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 13, 2009 15:12:42 GMT
Well, my Shobu is a beast... and others have said the DF shobu is as well. The Psudo-Oni Forge/Cheness Shobu I got from you awhile back was a bit lighter in feel, not as much of a heavy cutter.
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Post by wiwingti on Apr 13, 2009 16:13:34 GMT
here is a pic with the Dynasty forge Shobu (pretty big)pic up and the Hanwei practical light katana(very small) pic down
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 13, 2009 17:05:32 GMT
Random.... the fact that your Rawblade ends in a shobu tip rather than going back to shinogi-zukuri makea it a Kanmuri Otoshi I wondered about that. Still like it quite a bit. wiwi, nice slippers.
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Post by wiwingti on Apr 13, 2009 17:25:08 GMT
Random.... the fact that your Rawblade ends in a shobu tip rather than going back to shinogi-zukuri makea it a Kanmuri Otoshi I wondered about that. Still like it quite a bit. wiwi, nice slippers. thanks ,,,these are the ones i prefer lol
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 13, 2009 17:31:11 GMT
I wondered about that. Still like it quite a bit. wiwi, nice slippers. thanks ,,,these are the ones i prefer lol They look cozy.
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Post by wiwingti on Apr 13, 2009 17:38:55 GMT
yeah very cozy. they are made with double cord.so very thick. 4 grain of phentex
but, i am about to have to trough them in the garbage they are breaking (under the feet) lol
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Apr 13, 2009 18:14:52 GMT
Yeah ... I really prefer Kanmuri , personally
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 13, 2009 18:29:10 GMT
Doesn't particularly make a difference to me. The sudden taper is the part I like; particularly when the right type of hi is carved in. I really, really need to get some clothes for my Raw...but I'm only just now starting to catch up on that whole debt thing, and I should be hearing from the polisher (for my antique) any time now...unless he retired and forgot to tell me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2009 0:43:45 GMT
Bah. i like -everything- about this sword =P heck the only things i would ever want changed would probably be dark green ito and a certain bug theme as well as black same but i plan to get something like that made some day anyway~
=O i love it im so buying one, two weeks time... i hope.
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