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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Mar 27, 2009 19:57:36 GMT
wraith, I'm not sure. he has very specific and exactly reproduceable moves which are the hallmark of training but the question is what type of training? I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 5:10:13 GMT
I see the specific and reproduceable moves, so I have to wonder if it is because of the medium he is cutting or because of the sword that makes his technique look a bit strange to my eyes. Then again it could be because of the mechanical differences between his technique and others I have seen or studied.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Mar 29, 2009 2:27:47 GMT
I got this from Hiroshi to post here. he is still waiting on his registration here to be activated.
"Hey Tom please post this as is on the SBG thread "cutting after The FIGHT."
thanx!
"To All, wow thanks for the great reception guys I really appreciate it. I registered last night but I'm still waiting for the admins to approve it.
to Kenpachi316, yea I did enjoy it. it was very eye opening.
to Randomnobody, why would you be disappointed? the first few cuts were great, when I changed cuts I lost my concentration and failed the cut. I would not blame it on the sword. the sword may be a little dull but it still cuts very well.
to Bloodwraith, No, I have not been formally trained to do tameshigiri. I've applied all of my accumulated knowledge to cut how I do today. I've been handling real swords for about 6 years so I've got a great understanding of how swords should be used and handled. In your opinion how could anyone translate using a shinai to a katana? the technique required for each is a huge leap from each other. I know my tameshigiri is not perfect but I don't have the means to formally train as of now. maybe in a few years.
of course I welcome all constructive and good natured criticism."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 3:39:49 GMT
I would hope that all of my criticisms are interpreted as being constructive and good natured Hiroshi: That was exactly my point, I don't think it is possible to translate the technique of a shinai to katana, though I have seen a few people try with varying degrees of success. You are also correct in the chasm of technique between the shinai and the katana. I think your tameshigiri was quite good for someone who has no formal training, I just wanted to make sure before I commented overly much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 14:40:34 GMT
Hey Shadow, I haven't either, but I did buy a box of them. They are sitting in the basement and it is finally warming up here... Hiroshi, let us know when you are approved
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Mar 29, 2009 15:14:02 GMT
as I understand it Sunday was Hiroshi's first time cutting tatami too but he had cut bamboo before.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 6:28:15 GMT
Hmm, I would think that cutting tatami is a great deal easier than bamboo, well it is in my experience anyway. Was the bushido his? Was he used to using the katana?
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Post by shadowhowler on Mar 30, 2009 7:13:56 GMT
as I understand it Sunday was Hiroshi's first time cutting tatami too but he had cut bamboo before. Yup, me too... tho it's been a LONG time since I cut bamboo. I basicly did what you did with it in the vids Tom... stuck it in the ground and 'have at it'. Deb: Well... we shall both enjoy the new experince of cutting mats soon then! One thing we know for sure... YOU will look a lot better then me doing it, in more ways then one. However... FEW people have a plastic bottle army larger then mine to contend with... maybe RicWilly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 15:21:42 GMT
Hmm, I would think that cutting tatami is a great deal easier than bamboo, well it is in my experience anyway. Was the bushido his? Was he used to using the katana? well that entirely depends on the bamboo. and yes the Hanwei Bushido is mine. The only sword that was not mine that I cut with that day was Tom's English swords and I am used to using a katana, it's the only swords I usually use, last week was my first time using an English sword.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2009 19:55:17 GMT
This procedure makes plenty good sense, especially if you can replicate a "scoring" strike on the tatami.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Apr 5, 2009 20:17:26 GMT
I'm glad you mentioned this Kortoso, I think it is very important to throw good strikes when using training weapons. the strikes I use in sparring have changed since I started cutting. there were definitely some strikes thrown and accepted in the sparring match that would not have gone all the way through a single tatami. one the flip side, I do not believe full tatami cutting force is required on all strikes for them to be effective. a strike that can cut through a full tatami, in my opinion would be a decisive strike for sure while a weaker strike may or may not be. one of these days I'm going to get out the sparring videos and replicate each strike with the associated footwark on tatami with live blade and see what happens. that would be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 0:26:16 GMT
nice vids ..looked like a throughly enjoyed afternoon..im also in SC(west columbia)..but i unfortuantely live in huge mobile home park with children always running thru my yard...so only indoor cutting here...which really sucks in a single wide..anyways small rant over...keep the good times rollin..
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